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Handy pdf! Nice one! Cheers mate
 (and I see you read through my typo & realised I meant metal getting into the VANOS etc  , I'll correct it now though).
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Looking at the photos for no1 rod bearings, are you sure they're in the right place?? I thought that when the mains failed they always took out the adjacent rod bearings, hence doubting they're in the right place in that photo . I suspect 2 & 3 are 1 & 2.And was it supercharged? Also, do you know the year & mileage of that 2nd engine?
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Just ~11mths ago
 . I'm working may way through the blown engines list, verifying & adding info where I can. The earliest ones were 6-7yrs ago! (not posted by you).Ah yea, now I look properly  lol, I can see that no2 mains is worse.Unusual for no2 to have gone (based on internet reading not RL stripping ), thanks for the extra info In your original post (I edited out some photos in my quote) you mentioned you had a couple of failures that week, the other photos show no1 RB shot.
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Unfortunately I have another question for you!
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[update, as of 29-3-24, I am no longer updating this list or the categorised one in my following post as I have created my own thread for it].
Ok, so I've finally gone through the whole list! (& added 9 missing/new cases). I would like to state that where I've written 'confirmed blown engine' etc, I only mean that I have confirmed that is what the owner states. Although for some I have found some extra info (e.g photos) & posted the links that corroborates this. I've also corrected some vague or incorrect links & added name changes. Where no links are provided, see original list. Quite a few of the cases are from failed main bearings! With most of those being supercharged motors..... And a couple of engines destroyed by an injector failing & a couple by oil pump failures! In my following post I have separated out the mains failures from the RB failures etc, as well as removed dead linked ones & just incorrect info, see my post below. For some reason I seem to have plenty of time atm! Can't imagine why!  Anyway, this list is a direct copy of the positions of the original list in the op. (I would hide it in spoiler tags, but this forum lacks that function ).I am adding new/newly found cases to the lists in my following post. 1.maicol76 - confirmed main bearings failed, 29k kms (18k miles) (RBs condition unknown) 2.RenoE92M3 - confirmed rod bearings failed, 43k miles, BMW replaced engine (main's condition unknown) 3.zOOm - confirmed engine blew up "Piston went through engine block" (likely rod bearings), 59k miles 4.MathewDavid - NOT blown up! Ticking noise later went away! 5.Gatchaman - confirmed rod & main bearings, 5.6k! miles 6.I LOVE MY M3 - NOT blown up! Premature wear to rod & bearings, more info here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...6&postcount=24 , motor stripped due to noises. 7.taleof2bricks - confirmed blown engine, rod thrown, failed rod bearings, 28k miles 8.DLSJ5 - confirmed blown engine, but due to oil leak from supercharger! Ran out of oil! Plus had high boost! Not RB issue. 9.armorrig - not confirmed! No evidence or post of a blown engine. 10.elmariachi (name changed to satinghostrider) - conf.pistons broken + unknown amount of bearing wear, possibly due to detonation 11.h4nh - confirmed engine blew up in a later post, supercharged & run 89/91 fuel! 12.Brooklyn Mark - likely blown but not confirmed, 38k miles, supercharged, forum banned him 4/2014 13.e90m3_6MT - confirmed blown engine, broken con-rod etc, 107k km, 66.5k miles 14.Boxed - confirmed (by BMW) rod bearings worn out, bearings replaced MY 2011 (no more info) 15.jacobe92 - confirmed rod bearing failure, 31k miles, (no more info) 16.Sti2e92sedan - confirmed seized engine but NOT RBs fault, failed oil pump 17.M3NST3R - confirmed blown engine, 47k miles, MY 2008, replaced by BMW (no more info) 18.Canadian - confirmed spun rod bearings, 6.3k! miles, repaired by BMW (did some track days[not noted previous track mentions]) 19.zgirl1999 - unknown, website gone 20.bigtracing - confirmed failed rod bearings, 96k 21.Artem@ONEighty - confirmed bearings failed, but unsure which, 28k, engine replaced by BMW 22.Elvace - not confirmed! The photos of 3 RBs he did take show modest wear, additionally he had a broken clutch plate which was almost certainly the source of the noise in the video! 105k kms(65.2k miles) 23.kinnsella - confirmed rod bearigs failed, 35k, BMW replaced engine with a reman unit 24.HapaM3 - confirmed rod bearings failed, 47k, (some tracking) 25.JDATX - confirmed rod bearings failed, 39k miles, replaced under BMW warranty 26.amg893 - confirmed rod & main bearings failed, 90k kms(56k miles) 27.foolio2 - confirmed engine failure (video of car sounds like rod bearings knocking. Engine not stripped), 6.7k!, BMW replaced engine 28.brandfay - confirmed rod broke (likely due to rod bearings failure), 20k miles, BMW replaced under warranty 29.Agent Orange, name changed(?) to Morally Gray - confirmed main bearing failure! Supercharged, suspicions fall on the supercharger though. 70k kms(43.5k miles), 2010 MY 30.Maybe 5 other cases in Oz?? - not confirmed, no specific reports 31.Crusher - confirmed seized engine, 20k miles, 2012 MY, BMW replaced under warranty, no further info 32.e93 jonesy - confirmed bearings failed (possibly mains), no car info, BMW replaced under warranty 33.BMW Fanatik - confirmed engine failure, rods 3 & 5 broken, but big suspicion of other factors, his engine definitely died, but it may have originally been damaged by being hydraulically locked from sucking water in a "massive puddle"!, 12k kms!(7.5k miles),somehow he got it done under warranty! 34.stubble88 - (name corrected) confirmed bearings failed (unknown which), 20k, replaced by BMW, reman engine, slightly changed link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=226 35.mkoesel - likely rod bearings failed - video produced, sounds like a big end knocking (not belt noise lol!), engine wasn't stripped down during his ownership, sold on as is, 95k miles. 36.REDBULL - confirmed blown engine (no further info), 23k miles, 2010 MY 37.TL866 (3 cases in Spain) corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=523 - not confirmed, in Spanish! (may Google translate later)38.TrakBch - aka Master P! confirmed blown engine, rod bearings seized & broken conrod, 63.7k miles, 2008 MY, some tracking https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=963103 39.JRLittle - confirmed broken rod, 500 miles!! 2010 MY. Possible contributory factor, RPM run in limit exceeded. 2010 MY 40.magicknife - confirmed engine failure, replaced by BMW under warranty, cause unknown other than a very loud noise 41.neilm3 - not confirmed, initial failure not due to RBs, headgasket failed which lead to coolant mixing with oil subsequently destroying RBs. 42.LoonR1 - confirmed engine failure, likely bearing failure (swarf in engine), 33.5k miles, 2011 MY, BMW replaced under warranty 43.Malek@MRF - confirmed RBs failed 38k miles, 2011 MY, was running 0w/40 oil for last 15k miles. Better link showing pics of RBs & crank https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=672 44.Five potential cases in Bahrain by 0-60Motorsports - not confirmed, no links, no real info, nothing! 45.antonio010 - confirmed engine failure, due to bearing failure (mentions both mains & rod bearings), 90k miles,2008 MY 46.oreokid24 - confirmed RB failure, BMW replaced engine under warranty, 35k miles, 2011 MY 47.fer316 (4 in Europe) - not confirmed yet, in Spanish, may translate it later. 48.tar0d - confirmed RB failure, 60k kms (37k miles), 2008 MY, 49.tobilli - confirmed RB failure, 90k kms (56k miles), 2009 MY 50.ellekz - confirmed RB failure, 47k miles, 2009 MY, https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=90 51.BMW M3 Guy - confirmed RB failure, 55k miles, 2008 MY, repaired by BMW under goodwill! 52.JYTSky - confirmed bearing failure (which unknown), 36k miles, 2011 MY, BMW repaired under warranty 53.M33DDIE - confirmed engine failure, cause unknown, but piston was removed from original engine to inspect, 35k miles, 2008 MY 54.PERFM3(renamed PerfM5) - confirmed bearing failure, mileage unknown, 2008 MY, covered by 3rd party warranty 55.mtecnic - confirmed blown engine (crank/rods failure), 70k miles, 2008 MY, covered by CPO party warranty (car tracked) 56.xccess - confirmed blown engine (likely bearings/rods), 88k miles, 2008 MY, 57.vmudry - confirmed RBs failed, 56k miles, 2008 MY 58.theboss1853 - confirmed RBs failed, 60k miles, 2008 MY 59.ellekz - confirmed RBs failed, ~45k miles, 2nd (used) engine! 60.avusm3 - confirmed engine failure (seized), unknown cause, 44k miles, 2011 MY 61.Oxymoron - confirmed engine failure (seized main bearings), 32k miles, 2011 MY, BMW replaced under goodwill 62.Antonio1988 - confirmed RB seized, 31k miles, 2012, BMW replaced under warrantee 63.IIAp3x - confirmed RB failure, 55k miles, 2008, replaced by BMW, mostly covered with 3rd party (Premier Dealer Services) warrantee 64.maloo - reports of RBs failed on an M3 featured in the 'Boston Bimmer' magazine (not available online). 65.SHADY1 - Eurotic of Houston - confirmed blown engine, pictures of broken rod & piston 66.TTO898 - confirmed blown engine, unknown cause, 15k miles, engine replaced under warrantee 67.Gabergab - confirmed blown engine at 65k kms(40.4k miles), engine replaced by BMW, 4 mths out of warrantee, 70% goodwill payment, tracked regularly, no further info 68.Ging - confirmed blown engine but NOT rod bearings, this was a rare case of a rod breaking (Arrow rods, bearings were free), 24k kms (14.9k miles), forced induction (7.5 PSI). 69.Zzhou - confirmed blown engine (block holed), 42k miles, tracked 5-6 times per yr, another forum member states he saw his car in the dealer & they told him the RBs had failed - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=58 (not his friends car, although he states that blew up too with rod bearing failure, no further info given) 70.bqureshi - confirmed rod bearing failure, 57k miles, 2009, pics - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1092 71.2jzinsider - confirmed blown engine, failed bearings (unknown which), 62k miles, 2011 72.serg87 (now AdonM3) - confirmed blown engine due to RB failure, replaced under warrantee, 48k miles, 2011 73.serj.ru - confirmed failed RBs, crank & some pistons damaged, 63k kms (39k miles), 2008 74.Grk_M3 - confirmed failed RBs, scored cylinders, no more info. 75.Pepper135i - confirmed engine failed, 20k miles, 2012, BMW replaced engine under warrantee, no more info 76.WkboardAtx - confirmed RB failure & blown engine, 80k miles, 2008, (occurred whilst driven by dealer!), no further info, direct link http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=542393 77.Thekhwaj - confirmed RB bearing failure, 22k miles, 2012, final confirmation of failed RBs here - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1248610 , serviced every 5k. 78.MrFeisty - confirmed rod bearing failure, 80k kms (50k miles), 2010 79.BostonS65 - confirmed engine failure, but unknown cause (but 'metal everywhere' inside engine & 1 cyl down on compression), 3.1k miles!, 2013 80.chamoloco - confirmed engine failure, but uncertain cause, he possibly describes a big end knock but says the small end bearings were 'worn out'! 81.///MTex - rod bearing failure, 57k miles, 2009, (better link) https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1086 , photos https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1092 82.turbomaniac - confirmed failed rod bearings (includes pics), 56k miles, 2008 , corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...2#post19664522 83.Omni2702 - confirmed bearings failed but due to oil pump failure, 52k miles, 2008, 84.335m - confirmed RBs failed, ~60k miles, 2008, no further info 85.CHIEFKIEF - confirmed RBs failed, 30k miles, 2009, no further info. 86.ifly747 - seized engine, 83k miles, 2009, metal in oil sample thought to be from bearings, no more info 87.MFKN3 - confirmed RBs failed ('rod knock'), he states of 3 other local (Aus) M3s with bearing failure, no further info. 88.decimation1 - confirmed failed bearings (spun, unknown which), 80k miles, 2008 - extra info here https://www.m3post.com/forums/conver...5815&u2=258246 89.Bel-Tirid's friend - confirmed his car's RBs failed, no further info 90.MPACT - confirmed spun bearings 1 & 5, 67k miles, 2011, supercharged, 2nd engine spun same bearings along with no1 mains damaged! Suspicions fall on an issue with the supercharger installation causing no1 mains failure on both. Info & pics here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...25&postcount=1 91.williemandowa - confirmed RBs failed, 101k miles, some tracking, no further info 92.Sonny-Heyman (reported by aussiem3) - confirmed blown engine (windowed block), 160k kms (100k miles), 2010, no further info 93.Sascha Ernst (reported by ///M Power-Belgium) - confirmed blown engine (windowed block), 65k kms (40.4k miles), no further info 94.chief - confirmed blown engine (windowed block, thrown conrod) but caused by a stuck open injector, see here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...57&postcount=4, 69k miles, 2008, pictures here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...4#post20783124 95.Page Not Found - confirmed bearings failed (unknown cause, never posted the update thread he mentioned) 53k miles, 2010 96.Squartus - confirmed bearings failed (no1 mains & adjacent RBs), engine 61k miles, this 2nd set (WPC rod bearings) 30k miles, supercharged, crank photo here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...3#post20356443 97.bxchino_m3 - confirmed blown engine only, no other info at all! (user banned 10/2018) 98.HeaTHeR_aK - confirmed blown engine only, no other info at all! 99.Wtlitng - confirmed failed RBs, 19k miles, 2011 (engine replaced by BMW), no more info 100.ase2dais - inconclusive, reported 'tic-tic' noise could've been anything, although car was replaced after 2 failed repair attempts. 2008, no further info 101.chuckster (not Fazerboy, he just linked it) - confirmed RBs failed, 68k miles, 2008, 102.e92Mjunky - negative, nothing about a blown engine, but he put an S65 into an e46 M3! 103.M3ForMe93 - confirmed RB failure, 140k miles, 2008, pics of the engine out https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1325498 104.Rahstar - confirmed RB failure(no.5), 85k miles, 2008 105.houston - only confirmed engine seized, 17k miles, 2011, no further info. 106.JFWM3 - confirmed blown engine (block holed, thrown rods), ~105k kms (65k miles) initial post incorrect, 2008, supercharged, correct mileage & a little more info here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1509701 107.E92NJM3 - holed piston due to a failed injector!, nothing to do with bearings. 108.romemmy - confirmed engine blown, broken con rod due to seized RBs (possibly caused by a failed main bearing), supercharged, no further info. 109.OnAFriday - confirmed bearing failure, suspected but not confirmed RBs, 53k miles, 2008, 110.Doc Oc's friend - confirmed main bearing failure, dinan pulley was on engine (so supercharged?), no further info 111.jobe - confirmed main bearing failure, 54k miles, 2009 112.Seattle Craig's List Post - dead link 113.M3E90SF - confirmed RBs failed , 42k miles, 2008, engine replaced by BMW (partial good will). Op deleted his post in the original thread, but confirms RBs in this later FS thread https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1391761 114.jaye92 - confirmed RB failure, 2008, no further info 115.dpdoughty - confirmed blown engine (broken conrod), 82k miles, 2008, 116.Hovig24 - confirmed RB failure, 53k miles, 2008 117.grantwoodOK - confirmed RB failure, 70k miles, 2011. And possibly a 2nd one! (ongoing as of 3/20). https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=135 118.SSR Performance customer - confirmed bearings failed (not stated which) & crank damaged , 78k miles, no further info 119.tacoman - confirmed RBs failed (seized engine, whilst at dealer!), 36k miles, 2010 120.Twosevennine - confirmed RBs failed (rod knock), no further info 121.EYXB - confirmed RBs failed, 92k kms (57k miles), 2012, corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...36&postcount=1 122.Twosevennine - duplicated entry 123.GSTE34 - confirmed blown engine (rod thrown), 88k miles, 2008, but NOT due to RBs but a rod bolt falling out! additional info from https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=17 124.benbejamin18 - confirmed engine failed, likely RBs, 62k miles, 12/2007 125.LatifE90 - confirmed RBs failed (engine replaced), 60k miles, 2009, further info from here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=21 126.Ruben7520 (name changed to M4_Ronin) - confirmed RBs failed, no further info (possibly formely owned by DreamTime? - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=61 ) 127.EAS customer - confirmed RB failure (incl. photos, appear to be LCI bearings), 120k miles, no further info 128.M3ANMACHINE, wrong person & link, it's aptwave - confirmed main bearings failed & seized engine, 31k miles, 2012, correct link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...59&postcount=1 , photos - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=48 129.yeah_knee - confirmed RB failure, 108k miles, 2008 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=208 130.besiktas - only confirmed 'bearing is gone', no further info! 131.Duk996 - confirmed main bearings failed, 50k miles, 2011, RBs rough but not failed, photos - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=115 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=150 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=187 132.Nugget - confirmed main bearings failed, estimate of 5k kms on new RBs, in forum photos https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=111 , photos - https://postimg.cc/gallery/2d18xm4xg/ 133.maxe93 (now Maxf80M3) - confirmed blown engine but not RBs! No3 piston melted (unknown cause), 150k kms (93.2k miles), 2008 - also, corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...78&postcount=1 134.jonshmoe - confirmed bearings failed (unknown which), 97k miles, 2008, no further info 135.zeemy - only confirmed major engine fault (serious knock, likely RBs), 80k miles, 2008, no further info. 136.Inflame's boss - confirmed RBs failed, 46k miles, 2011, no further info. 137.spr - alternate thread shows their was nothing wrong with the engine! (was misdiagnosed by shop!) https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1472011 138.fastmvr - confirmed bearings failed (not stated which, indicates RBs), 109k miles, 2008, better link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=76 139.Nilick - confirmed RBs failed, 45k miles, 2011, no further info 140.Jmags41 - confirmed broken con rod, 50k miles, 2012, supercharged for 25k, no further info 141.deansbimmer - confirmed broken conrod, bought as a parts car, 2008, ~80k miles,no further info, extra info from here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2505 142.maicol76 (no2!) - confirmed blown engine, but is due to piston contacting a detached valve head! (engine 45-52k miles, 2013), 2011, tracked exclusively for 3yrs to then. 143.Fstylin - only confirmed 'metal shavings in oil' & 'odd noise from engine', no other info! 144.Redish motors (engine from Jamaica) - confirmed seized engine, rods 1,2 & 3 blued, certainly RBs failed, but maybe no1 mains too? No further info. 145.StuttgartBMW - suspected RBs, but engine hadn't been stripped & op didn't report back, 68k miles, 2008, 146.steven747 - confirmed RBs failed, 94k miles, 2008 147.nastynogales - confirmed engine knocking, 135k miles, 2008, no further info 148.amrazM3 (now amrazM) - confirmed engine seized, (via PM) cylinder 8 bottom shell spun and fused to the crank took out the motor and it couldn't even be spun over by hand. before the motor went it was consuming oil pretty rapidly, bmw sent an engineer to look at the engine and they verified that the oil wasn't low at the time of the incident, 25k miles, 2011, corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...07&postcount=1 149.bimmer414 - confirmed RBs failed, 122k miles, 2008, ~12 track days, (stated oil analysis missed bad bearings, Pb levels were slightly elevated, report not shown. Have PM'd). 150.New_m3 - confirmed RBs failed, 102k miles, 2008 151.Codinge90 - confirmed RBs failed (engine otherwise apparently undamaged), 101k miles, 2010, corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...82&postcount=1 152.fastmvr's son - duplicated entry (138) 153.Ruben7520 (now M4_Ronin) - duplicated entry (126) 154.Lexshive - a confused & conflicting report, possibly detonation damaged piston & RB??? A separate thread possibly hints at this too https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...6#post23150226 155.JTHOR312 - only confirmed damaged engine, possibly piston/ring damage, post is so vague it's almost completely useless, 2011, no further info 156.Bluestorm - confirmed seized engine, allegedly from overfilling with oil! (seems unlikely), 42.5k miles, 2012, no further info. 157.cblack201 - confirmed seized engine, 71k miles, 2008, previously had a crank & bearings at 64k! No further info, corrected link https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...7#post30111247 158.JTHOR312 - duplicated entry (155) 159.In Belgium 2016 - confirmed destroyed engine (rod thrown), photo showing a major oil leak, further info by PM from ///M Power-Belguim - I spoke to him via FB in 2018 . He said he drove on the highway and suddenly he heard a loud knocking/rattle noise under the hood. He pulled over ASAP. First thing he saw was the oil coming from under the engine bay . His BWW/Dealer confirmed that a bearing spun and it blew a rod through the block and oil pan .The S65 was completely locked up . Metal debris was everywhere. He never red-lined in the rpm's ...and the car was stock. 160.T!m@ - not confirmed, 'cracked block, overheated', (link to photo sometimes works! confirmed cracked block), ~100k kms (~62k miles), 2008 (info from PM). 161.SYT_Shadow (typo corrected) - confirmed seized engine, 60k miles, 2011, lots of track use!, tuned, no1 main bearing spun https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...76&postcount=1 162.Reported by M Power-Belgium, burnout video - confirmed engine blown, in the video you see a conrod on the floor! The big end is darkened & still so hot that it's vaporising the adjacent oil! Due to the nature of abuse maybe the oil overheated & got too thin?? No further info. 163.2006325i - confirmed no1 main & RB spun (photos), 70k miles, 2011 164.bmwlover0725 - confirmed RBs failed (spun) , 162k miles, 2008, has done 10k miles on new shells with 1 of the journals slightly scored! 165.aardchua - confirmed RB 'issue', ~50k miles, 2008, engine was replaced under warrantee. 166.aznazasin - confirmed RB failure (hole in block), 88k miles, 2008 167.MoonShot - confirmed RB failure, 62k miles, 2008, engine replaced by BMW under warrantee. 168.bmwlover0725 - duplicate entry, see 164 169.deansbimmer customers x2 - No1,confirmed mains & RB failure, seized engine, 74k miles, 2011. No2, confirmed RB failure, spun bearing, (asked dean for more info) 170.dgoldenz - confirmed failed RBs (rod thrown) on 2nd engine!, , supercharged for 10k miles, 59.2k miles, 2013, better link with photos https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2382 , not mains apparently! https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=34 171.Griffith500 - confirmed 'kaput' engine!, ,2011, no further info 172.Excers - likely no1 mains failed leading to spun RBs (7k after replacing them) but engine not stripped fully to confirm, 81k miles, 2011 173.frazierrg - confirmed blown engine (thrown rod), 43.6k miles, 2011, no further info 174.bblefas - confirmed blown engine, 14.5k miles, 2011, replaced by BMW under warrantee, no further info. 175.M3_Singh - confirmed blown engine (thrown rod, photos), 79k miles, no further info. 176.bmwlover0725 - duplicate entry again!, see 164 177.scaryharry19 - confirmed blown engine (thrown rod), 72k miles, 2008, supercharged ~22k miles, 178.drifts500 (friend's car) - not confirmed blown engine! (cracked block, cause uncertain), 90k miles, 2009, 179.kuy902 - confirmed blown engine, 2008, tracked a lot and supercharged (690 bhp!!! https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=57 ), no further info 180.tweny - confirmed failed mains & RBs, 43k miles, 2011, photos https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=13 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...6&postcount=69 181.jazzy1999's mechanic - confirmed blown engine, appears from the single photo no1 mains failed followed by adjacent RBs, no further info 182.superbang - confirmed RBs failed, 69k miles, no further info 183.bergerking - confirmed seized engine, 132k miles, 2011, engine not stripped, no further info. 184.x2nervisx - confirmed seized engine, 107k miles, engine 2008, no further info, engine not stripped as of 1/2020 185.Kobaiyashi - confirmed RBs failed, 136k, 2008, no further info as of 29/3/2020 186.kiquos - confirmed blown engine (rod thrown) just after RBs changed, but NOT the bearings fault as their is evidence that a rod bolt dropped out!, 80k miles, 2011, better info here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=452 187.ebay car with replaced motor - unknown cause for replacement, 12k miles, 2012 (reg. DTF 3139, NY, car seems familiar??) 188.ebay with blown motor - confirmed 'bad engine' only, ad also stated 'will likely need a new engine', 60.2k miles, 2011, corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2477 189.Nugget - duplicate entry, see 132 (copied this entry's link to that entry). 190.deansbimmer - 5 failed S65s in workshop, as of 29/3/20 no further info yet. 191.shakeywarrior - confirmed rod knock & copper debris in oil filter, no further info at this stage 192.williocom, dead engine (no further info), 20k miles, 2011, BMW replaced under warranty https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=16 193.radiantm3 - confirmed engine seized, 61k miles, RBs originally changed by BMW at 17k under warrantee! No more info. https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=109 and https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...5&postcount=73 194.surewin - confirmed RBs failed, engine saved! 62k miles (photos plus oil report) https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=256 , more info from tom @ eas here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=389 195.anerbe - confirmed failed RBs, 54k miles, 2009, (oil reports) - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=967 , RBs hadn't spun but crank scored https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...92&postcount=1 196.CrucialScott - confirmed damaged engine, 'bottom end knock', 43k miles, 2010, likely but unconfirmed RBs - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=205 , https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=208 197.luvyrteeth - confirmed engine blown, 'bearing failure', no more info, 75k miles, 2008, (have PM'ed) https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...83&postcount=3 , https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=955963 198.paul604 - confirmed seized engine, 2010, no futher info https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=16 199.Green-Eggs customer - confirmed seized engine, no1 mains seized, supercharged, tracked, (had new BE rod bearings which were damaged by the mains failure). https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=100 200.
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 [update, as of 29-3-24, I am no longer updating this list as I have created my own thread for it]. Listed sorted out into failed RBs, likely failed RBs (yes this one is subjective!), failed mains bearings & other failures/undetermined. Dead links & invalid cases removed, some names updated. For listings with no links, see the original list in the op. (Want to find a name? Hit Ctrl+F, type in name, hit enter or arrows.) 02-2024 started adding country names to poster. Confirmed (by poster) failed Rod Bearings list :- Lead/copper (earlier) bearing failures 53 Tin/al/copper (later) bearing failures 33 2010 MY not counted as they could be either type (unless type stated), some didn't report the year at all. Total failures 104 1. RenoE92M3 - confirmed rod bearings failed, 43k miles, BMW replaced engine (mains condition unknown), MY2008 - Aus. 2. Solo_M_Tech - confirmed RB spun & crank damaged, 136k miles but were replaced at 80k miles (with OEM), customer declined a service prior to this! photo here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=224 , no further info - USA, MA 3. taleof2bricks - confirmed blown engine, rod thrown, failed rod bearings, 28k miles, MY2008 - USA, CA 4. e90m3_6MT - confirmed blown engine, broken con-rod etc, 107k km, 66.5k miles, MY2008 - Can., Mont. 5. Boxed - confirmed (by BMW) rod bearings worn out, bearings replaced MY 2011 (no more info) - USA, FL 6. jacobe92 - confirmed rod bearing failure, 31k miles, MY2011 (no more info) - USA, CA 7. bigtracing - confirmed failed rod bearings, 96k, MY2008 - USA, CT 8. kinnsella - confirmed rod bearings failed, 35k, BMW replaced engine with a reman unit, MY2011 - USA, CA 9. HapaM3 - confirmed rod bearings failed, 47k, (some tracking), MY2008 - USA, LA 10. JDATX - confirmed rod bearings failed, 39k miles, replaced under BMW warranty, MY2011 - USA, TX 11. Carlow - confirmed RBs failed and engine replaced under warrantee by BMW, 92k miles, MY2008 - Ireland 12. Master P! confirmed blown engine, rod bearings seized & broken conrod, 63.7k miles, some tracking 2008 MY, https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=963103 - USA, ? 13. Canadian (now boost3dx) - confirmed spun rod bearings, 6.3k! miles, repaired by BMW (some track days), MY2012 - USA, NV 14. diargon - confirmed RBs (no pics), 64k miles, https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1739454, MY2011 - USA, WA 15. oreokid24 - confirmed RB failure, BMW replaced engine under warranty, 35k miles, 2011 MY - USA, PA 16. tar0d - confirmed RB failure, 60k kms (37k miles), 2008 MY - Spanish speaking, unknown location. 17. tobilli - confirmed RB failure, 90k kms (56k miles), 2009 MY - Spanish speaking, unknown location. 18. ellekz - confirmed RB failure, 47k miles,https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=90 2009 MY - Can,. GTA 19. BMW M3 Guy - confirmed RB failure, 55k miles, repaired by BMW under goodwill! 2008 MY - USA, CA 20. mtecnic - confirmed blown engine (crank/rods failure), 70k miles, covered by CPO party warranty (car tracked), 2008 MY - USA, WI 21. vmudry - confirmed RBs failed, 56k miles, 2008 MY - USA, Mass. 22. theboss1853 - confirmed RBs failed, 60k miles, 2008 MY - USA, IL 23. ellekz - confirmed RBs failed, ~45k miles, 2nd engine!(used, unknown year) - Can., GTA 24. Antonio1988 - confirmed RB seized, 31k miles, BMW replaced under warrantee, 2012 - USA, FL 25. IIAp3x - confirmed RB failure, 55k miles, replaced by BMW, mostly covered with 3rd party (Premier Dealer Services) warrantee, MY2008 - USA, FL 26. maloo - reports of RBs failed on an M3 featured in the 'Boston Bimmer' magazine (not available online) - USA, ? 27. Zzhou's - confirmed blown engine (block holed), 42k miles, tracked 5-6 times per yr, another forum member states he saw his car in the dealer & they told him the RBs had failed - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=58 MY2012 (not his friends car, although he states that blew up too with rod bearing failure, no further info given) - USA, IN 28. bqureshi (now ///MTex) - confirmed rod bearing failure, 57k miles, (better link) https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1086, pics - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=1092, MY2009 - USA, TX 29. serg87 (now AdonM3) - confirmed blown engine due to RB failure, replaced under warrantee, 48k miles, MY2011 - USA, CA 30. serj.ru - confirmed failed RBs, crank & some pistons damaged, 63k kms (39k miles), MY2008 - Russia, Moscow 31. Grk_M3 - confirmed failed RBs, scored cylinders, no more info, MY2009. - SA 32. WkboardAtx - confirmed RB failure & blown engine, 80k miles, (occurred whilst driven by dealer!), no further info, direct link http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=542393(link now dead  2/2024, MY2008 - ???33. Thekhwaj - confirmed RB bearing failure, 22k miles, final confirmation of failed RBs here - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1248610 , serviced every 5k MY2012 - USA, TX 34. MrFeisty - confirmed rod bearing failure, 80k kms (50k miles), MY2010 - Aus. 35. O4RC51 - confirmed rod bearings failed, 85k miles, MY 2008 - USA, NY 36. turbomaniac - confirmed failed rod bearings (includes pics), 56k miles, correct link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...2#post19664522, MY 2008 - USA, TX 37. 335m - confirmed RBs failed, ~60k miles, no further info, MY2008 - USA, TX 38. CHIEFKIEF - confirmed RBs failed, 30k miles, no further info, MY2009 - USA, OK 39. Bel-Tirid's friend - confirmed his car's RBs failed, no further info - Slovenia 40. williemandowa - confirmed RBs failed, 101k miles, some tracking, no further info, MY2008 - USA, GA 41. tacoman - confirmed RBs failed (seized engine, whilst at dealer!), 36k miles, MY2010 - USA, FL 42. Twosevennine - confirmed RBs failed (rod knock), no further info - USA, CA 43. EYXB - confirmed RBs failed, 92k kms (57k miles), corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...36&postcount=1, MY2012 - Aus. 44. LatifE90 - confirmed RBs failed (engine replaced), 60k miles, further info from here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=21, MY2009 - USA, CA 45. Ruben7520 (name changed to M4_Ronin) - confirmed RBs failed, no further info (possibly formerly owned by DreamTime? - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=61 ) - USA, NC 46. EAS customer - confirmed RB failure (incl. photos, appear to be tin/al bearings), 120k miles, no further info - USA, ? 47. yeah_knee - confirmed RB failure, 108k miles, 2008 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=208, MY2008 - USA, CA 48. Inflame's boss - confirmed RBs failed, 46k miles, no further info, MY2011 - USA, ? 49. Nilick - confirmed RBs failed, 45k miles, no further info, MY2011 - USA, WA 50. Redish motors (engine from Jamaica) - confirmed seized engine, rods 1,2 & 3 blued, certainly RBs failed, but maybe no1 mains too? No further info. - Jamaica 51. steven747 - confirmed RBs failed, 94k miles, MY2008 - USA, CA 52. bimmer414 - confirmed RBs failed, 122k miles, ~12 track days, (stated oil analysis missed bad bearings, Pb levels were slightly elevated. Report not shown. Have PM'd), MY2008 - USA, WI 53. New_m3 - confirmed RBs failed, 102k miles, MY2008 - UK 54. Codinge90 - confirmed RBs failed (engine otherwise apparently undamaged), 101k miles, corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...82&postcount=1, MY2010 - USA, CA 55. bmwlover0725 - confirmed RBs failed (spun), 162k miles, 2008, has done 10k miles (as of 3/2020) on new shells with 1 of the journals slightly scored! MY2008 - USA, NY 56. aardchua - confirmed RB 'issue', ~50k miles, engine was replaced under warrantee, MY2008 - USA, CA 57. aznazasin - confirmed RB failure (hole in block), 88k miles, MY2008 - USA, CA 58. MoonShot - confirmed RB failure, 62k miles, engine replaced by BMW under warrantee, MY2008 - USA, GA 59. dgoldenz - 1st engine RBs failed at 24k miles, engine was replaced under warrantee by BMW in 10/2014 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1681878, MY 2013 - USA, NV 60. dgoldenz - confirmed failed RBs (Gintani bearings) (rod thrown) on 2nd engine!, supercharged for 10k miles, 59.2k miles, better link with photos https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2382 , not mains apparently! https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...4&postcount=34, MY 2013. 61. Kobaiyashi - confirmed RBs failed, 136k, no further info as of 16/11/2020, MY2008 - USA, CA 62. surewin - confirmed RBs failed, engine saved! 62k miles (photos plus oil report) https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=256 , more info from tom @ eas here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=389, MY2008 - USA, CA 63. anerbe - confirmed failed RBs, 54k miles, (oil reports) - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=967, RBs hadn't spun but crank scored https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...92&postcount=1, MY2009 - USA, MI 64. amrazM3 (now amrazM) - confirmed engine seized, (via PM) cylinder 8 bottom shell spun and fused to the crank, took out the motor and it couldn't be spun over by hand. Before the motor went it was consuming oil pretty rapidly, bmw sent an engineer to look at the engine and they verified that the oil wasn't low at the time of the incident, 25k miles, corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...07&postcount=1. This car had a replacement engine 2015 which had the lead/copper bearings, MY 2011 - USA, NY 65. kpewpew (now kyippee) - confirmed no1 RB failure (rod knock & bearing seized to crank), possible No1 mains failure (undetermined), 67k miles (6k on new aftermarket RBs) https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=154, MY 2011 - USA, CA 66. SVH - confirmed RBs failed, 54k miles, 2011, supercharged, mains were checked & were ok (info via PM), some info here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1547961, MY 2011 - USA, SVH 67. Mshift - confirmed spun rod bearing (via PM, BMW replaced engine), 36k miles, https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=19 , MY 2013 - USA, FL 68. REDBULL - confirmed blown engine, signature states 'rod bearing failure', 23k miles, MY 2010 - USA, mid atlantic 69. Artem@ONEighty (now Alex@ONEighty) - confirmed rod bearings failed via PM, 28k miles, engine replaced by BMW, MY 2011 - USA, NY 70. deansbimmer - case 2 from post below, S65 4.6ltr, approximately 45k miles on the build, spun #4 bearing, rod broke, hole in the block. 10w60 oil, block casting date 2008 - USA, ? 71. deansbimmer - case 4 from message below, 44k miles, 10w60, #1/5 spun rods (first journal)[possible mains failure?], 2011 - USA,? 72. deansbimmer - case 5 from message below 51k miles, 5w50, rod knock - Cyl #6 bearing galled, not spun yet, 2013 - USA, ? 73. deansbimmer - case 6 from message below, 120k miles, supercharged, original bearings, 10w60, spun #2/6 journal, 2008 - USA, ? 74. deansbimmer - case 7 from message below, "sleeved 4.4 block that had rod bearing failure after 16k miles from the build" - USA, ? 75. lauz - confirmed failed RBs with photo, MY2011, approx 1 month before it'd done 48k km (30k miles) - Can., Quebec 76. tom@eas - 170k miles(!), spun bearing No 1, crank damaged (somehow this engine wasn't knocking!), photos - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2723 MY 2008 - USA, ? 77. Ruebsteak - 56k miles, spun bearing No 2 & 6 (same journal, at time of writing the engine hasn't been fully stripped, possibility of it being caused by a failed mains), high quality photos posted by him here - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2040303, 2012 car - USA, CA 78. Assimilator1 (from a work mate @BMW) - ~40k miles, rod broken from crank (see photos), replaced under BMW extended warrantee (spring 2020), 2013 car - UK, Hants, S'ton 79. Rahstar - rod bearing no5 spun (photo), 85k miles, MY 2008, USA, CA 80. Ecko - engine knocking, rod bearings 7 & 8 failed, crankshaft damaged, 82k kms, MY unknown, (in New Zealand but UK car) - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...y-head.102814/ 81. sohale - "engine knocking", "wobble on 5 & 6" rods, 89k miles, PM'd 10-2-24 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...-worth.166884/, UK 82. Dangretto - "engine knocking", 74k miles, MY 2008 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...ng-e92.179036/, UK 83. chuckster - rod bearings failed, 68k miles, MY 2008 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...ave-up.157369/, UK 84. Matt330 - "big ends rattling" - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...let-go.173159/, "number two shell had ruined the crank and con rod the rest of the shells were very close to going as well." - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...9/post-2336695, 69k miles, 2008, UK 85. Matt330 - (At same time as his car, Redish motors, 2011 e92, 20k miles, big end rattle > seized - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...9/post-2276209 ), UK 86. shaikh - rod bearings 1 & 5 seized, 25k miles, MY 2012 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...ailure.189826/, UK 87. Nicom3 - hole in block, 62.8k miles, MY 2008 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...2/post-2706038, UK 88. Raif - spun bearings, 83k miles, 2008 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...6/post-2808617 https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...6/post-2463132, UK 89. kinglean - "bearing spun" and crank scored, 26k miles, 2013 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...ervice.215969/ https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...thread.217463/, UK 90. Petej1 - 1st engine. Rod bearing spun and damaged crank, 49.5k miles, 2009 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...e-bang.209711/, UK 91. ShivaStirling - "big end spun and crank damage...", 113k kms, 2007 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...4/post-3419697, Ire 92. x2nervisx - confirmed seized engine, 107k miles, engine 2008, via PM 15-2-24 "The person I sold it to tore it down and said the rod bearings were toast.", USA, NY. 93. Brooklyn Mark (now M4ever92 ?) - "engine blow out" and "rod bearing failure" confirmed by a mechanic, 38k miles, supercharged for 20k, tracked, possible detonation problems in the year prior? (forum banned him 4/2014), MY 2011, USA, NY 94. JYTSky - confirmed bearing failure on cyl 5, tuned (informed via PM), 36k miles, BMW repaired under warranty, MY 2011, USA, VA. 95. PERFM3 (renamed PerfM5) - confirmed bearing failure on cyl 1, crank scored, mileage unknown (PM'd 24-2-24), covered by 3rd party warranty, MY 2008, USA, CA 96. bsb - "spun a rod"[bearing], supercharged, 92k miles, MY 2008, USA, NV - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...3#post20650043 97. NotoriousART - rod bearings failed in 2013 just prior to his ownership, warrantee invoice here, 56.8k miles, MY 2008, USA, CA 98. SSR Performance customer - confirmed bearings failed (engine knocking loudly) & crank damaged , 78k miles, USA 99. decimation1 - confirmed failed bearings (no2 spun, confirmed via PM that it was rod bearings), 80k miles, extra info here https://www.m3post.com/forums/conver...5815&u2=258246, MY 2008, USA, VA 100. jonshmoe - confirmed rod bearings failed (via email 26-2-24), 97k miles, MY 2008, USA, GA 101. grantwoodOK - 1st engine's rod bearings failed at 70.4k, MY 2011, USA, FL 102. Riz123 - No1 & 5 rod bearings seized @40.8k miles (with a previous owner), 2011, UK - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...8/post-3384121 . Invoice shown here - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...8/post-3385640 103. M30YEE - rod bearings gone, engine seized, MY 2012 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...seized.153281/ 104. superbang - confirmed RBs failed, 69k miles, no further info - USA, CA Likely failed RBs, but not confirmed (btw, a broken rod can be caused by a hydrolocked engine as well as the more common (for S65s) rod bearings failing):- Lead/copper failures 12 Tin/al/copper failures 7 2010 MY not counted as they could be either type (unless type stated). Total 26 1. zOOm - confirmed engine blew up "Piston went through engine block", 59k miles, MY 2008 (PM'ed 20/11/20) - Lithuania, but car came from USA? 2. foolio2 - confirmed engine failure (video of car sounds like rod bearings knocking. Engine not stripped), 6.7k!, BMW replaced engine, MY2013 - USA, IN 3. mkoesel - likely rod bearings failed - video produced, sounds like a big end knocking (not belt noise lol!), engine wasn't stripped down during his ownership, sold on as is to leetecjm (PM'ed 17/11/20), 95.5k miles, MY2008 - USA, MI 4. xccess - confirmed blown engine (broken rod), 88k miles, MY2008 - USA 5. SHADY1 - Eurotic of Houston - confirmed blown engine, pictures of broken rod & piston, 25k miles, no further info, MY2012 - USA, TX 6. Sonny-Heyman (reported by aussiem3) - confirmed blown engine (windowed block), 160k kms (100k miles), some more info here, MY2010 - Belgium 7. Sascha Ernst (reported by ///M Power-Belgium) - confirmed blown engine (windowed block), 65k kms (40.4k miles), no further info - Germany 8. benbejamin18 - confirmed engine failed, likely RBs, 62k miles, 12/2007 - USA, FL 9. zeemy - only confirmed major engine fault (serious knock, likely RBs), 80k miles, car sold on as is, no further info, MY2008 - USA, NV 10. fastmvr - confirmed bearings failed (not stated which, indicates RBs), 109k miles, better link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=76, MY2008 - USA, TX 11. nastynogales - confirmed engine knocking, 135k miles, no further info, MY2008 - USA, CA 12. Peterb - engine knocking on Nurburgring, sounds like bigs ends went, 100k miles, 2008, UK - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...rgring.137985/ and a YouTube video - 13. frazierrg - confirmed blown engine (thrown rod), 43.6k miles, no further info, MY 2011 - USA, KY 14. M3_Singh - confirmed blown engine (thrown rod, photos), 79k miles, no further info - UK 15. shakeywarrior - confirmed rod knock & copper debris in oil filter, no further info at this stage. (PM sent 19/11/20) - USA, TX 16. brandfay - confirmed rod broke (likely due to rod bearings failure), 20k miles, BMW replaced under warranty, MY 2013 - USA, VA 17. deansbimmer - case 3 in message below, 63k miles, 10w60, rod knocking, swarf in oil, 2009 - USA, ? 18. steezye93m3 - confirmed rod broke (likely due to rod bearings failure), 56k miles, MY 2011 - USA, NY 19. BlackM3Sedan - Only confirmation of a rod through the block, cause uncertain. Engine for sale here MY 2008, but had bearings replaced - USA, MI 20. Baptist - block holed (photo on p4), 72k miles, 2011 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...-toast.191875/, UK 21. RickyM - spun bearing (no more info) - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...wanted.211867/, UK 22. ericliew's friend - "blew it's bearings" - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa... post-3621375, UK 23. M3NST3R - confirmed blown engine, 47k miles, replaced by BMW (awful noise and problem on no 6 cyl), MY 2008, USA, FL (PM'd 18-2-24 for more info). 24. LoonR1 - confirmed engine failure, likely bearing failure, unknown which, swarf in engine ("engine went bang"), 33.5k miles, BMW replaced under warranty, MY 2011, UK 25. stainm3 - knocking sound and oil found in the metal (its 2nd engine! 1st engine also had a "bottom end issue"), 2010, unknown mileage (PM'd for more info 20-2-24) - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...8/post-2681918 26. chamoloco - confirmed engine failure, he describes a loud engine knock and says the "top bearing" was worn out on 2 cyls (so presumably 2 of the top rod bearings). No further info, not active since then in 2016). 60k miles, MY 2008, USA, TX Confirmed (by poster) main bearings failed:- Lead/copper failures 4 Tin/al/copper failures 18 2010 MY not counted as they could be either type (unless type stated). Total 31 1. maicol76 - confirmed main bearings failed (RBs condition unknown), 18k miles, (1st engine!), MY 2011, USA, CA 2. Gatchaman - confirmed main and rod bearings, 5.6k! miles, MY 2012, USA, TX 3. amg893 - confirmed rod & main bearings failed, 90k kms(56k miles), MY2008, Aus. 4. Morally Gray - confirmed main bearing failure! Supercharged, suspicions fall on the supercharger though. 70k kms(43.5k miles), MY 2010, Aus. 5. antonio010 - confirmed engine failure, due to bearing failure (mentions both mains & rod bearings), 90k miles, MY 2008, USA, AZ 6. Oxymoron - confirmed engine failure (seized main bearings), 32k miles, BMW replaced under goodwill, MY 2011, Aus 7. MPACT - confirmed spun bearings 1 & 5, 67k miles, supercharged, 2nd engine spun same bearings along with no1 mains damaged! Suspicions fall on an issue with the supercharger installation causing no1 mains failure on both. Info & pics here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...25&postcount=1, MY 2011, USA, TX 8. aptwave - confirmed main bearings failed & seized engine, 31k miles, correct link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...59&postcount=1 , photos - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...1&postcount=48, MY 2012, Russia, Moscow 9. Duk996 - confirmed main bearings failed, 50k miles, RBs rough but not failed, photos - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=115 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=150 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=187, MY 2011, USA, WV 10. Nugget - confirmed main bearings failed, estimate of 5k kms (3.1k miles) on new RBs, in forum photos https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=111 , photos - https://postimg.cc/gallery/2d18xm4xg/, 90k kms, 56k miles, MY 2010, Aus. 11. SYT_Shadow (typo corrected) - confirmed seized engine, 60k miles, 2011, lots of track use!, tuned, (increased clearance rod bearings fitted), no1 main bearing spun https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...76&postcount=1, USA, CT 12. 2006325i - confirmed no1 main & RB spun (photos), 70k miles, 2011, USA, KY 13. deansbimmers (from report 169) - confirmed RB and mains failure spun bearing, 74k miles, more info here, MY2011, USA, ? 14. tweny - confirmed failed mains & RBs, 43k miles, 2011, photos https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=13 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...6&postcount=69, USA, TX 15. jazzy1999's mechanic - confirmed blown engine, appears from the single photo no1 mains failed followed by adjacent RBs, no further info, USA, NJ 16. Green-Eggs customer - confirmed seized engine, no1 mains seized, supercharged, tracked, (had new BE rod bearings which were damaged by the mains failure). https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=100, USA, ? 17. Malek@MRF - confirmed mains failed 38k miles, was running 0w/40 oil for last 15k miles. Better link showing pics of RBs, mains & crank https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=582 and https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=672, MY 2011, USA, CA 18. Alexand3r - confirmed No1 mains seized (photos), 69k miles, 2012 https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1594746, Bulgaria 19. e46IX - confirmed mains seized, 36k miles, https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=38, MY 2012, Can. 20. e93 jonesy - confirmed (via PM) main bearings failed, BMW replaced under warranty, 45k miles, MY 2011, USA, NY 21. deansbimmer - case 1 from message below, 77k miles, 10w60, seized #1 main, 2009, USA 22. deansbimmer - case 9 from message below, "main failures and cracked", USA 23. deansbimmer - case 10 from message below, "main failures and cracked", USA 24. M539 Restorations on Youtube, No1 mains gone!, rod bearings for cyl 1 & 5 severely damaged, and the party piece is that the crankshaft has snapped in 1/2!!  (see video for all of the aforementioned). 145k miles, 2011. Car from USA, but failed in Europe.25. catpat8000 (not his car) - confirmed to Bert (I believe) via PM, info from Bert's list attached to this post. Crank seized, 16k miles, MY 2012, USA, CA (PM'd 10-2-24, but not expecting a reply as he was last on in 2019!). 26. mchm3 - confirmed no 1 mains seized, supercharged, unknown mileage, MY 2012, USA, FL 27. Excers - no1 mains failed leading to spun RBs 1 & 5 (7k after replacing the rod bearings), confirmed via PM that the main had failed (also in engine parts ad), thread here, 81k miles, MY 2011, USA, AZ 28. bmwm3s65 - A replacement set of rod bearings failed on No1 rod, No1 mains was later found to have spun. See here, engine later sold here, 78k miles, MY 2009, USA, IN 29. Nugs - No1 mains failed, MY 2010, 54.7k miles, Australian - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...9/post-2292844 , https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...9/post-2322946 , Aus. 30. Riz123 - no1 main seized (photos included), is the car's 2nd engine and had only done 15k miles! - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...8/post-3416347, 2011, UK 31. Speed Acadamy (YouTube) - No1 mains disintegrating, adjoining rod bearings 1 & 5 spun (VAC bearings fitted, which had done ~2.5k miles), tracked, original rod bearings appeared to be the later tin/alu/copper ones, 103k miles, MY 2011 - Engine seized, likely due to mains failure (with no reports of oil or temperature warnings) :- Lead/copper failures 2 Tin/al/copper failures 3 2010 MY not counted as they could be either type (unless type stated). Total 6 1. tuxblackedo - Confirmed by BMW "engine seized and that there were metal shavings in the oil filter." and here, 72k miles, MY 2008, USA, CA 2. CrusherM3 - confirmed seized engine "won't turn over" (also, no warning lights), 20k miles, BMW replaced under warranty, (over rev'd before break in service) BMW "found some metal shavings in the oil", MY 2012, USA, TX 3. ifly747 - seized engine, 83k miles, metal in oil sample thought to be from bearings, no more info, MY 2009, USA 4. avusm3 - confirmed engine failure (seized, no more info), was running 0w/40 oil, 44k miles, MY 2011, USA. 5. radiantm3 - confirmed engine seized with no temp warnings, 61k miles. (RBs originally changed by BMW at 17k under warrantee). Engine was supercharged for nearly 10k miles & car tracked. https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=109 and https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...8&postcount=94, MY 2010, USA, TX 6. JShow - "engine seized. Copper in the oil. Not sure how bad yet." So cause yet to be determined as of 2-3-24 (just bumped thread), but seized mains seems likely. 42k miles, MY 2011, USA, GA Other causes of engine failures or undetermined/uncertain list. (Btw, a broken rod can be caused by a hydralocked engine as well as the more common (for S65s) rod bearings failure) :- 8 caused by injector failures. 1. DLSJ5 - confirmed blown engine, but due to oil leak from supercharger, ran out of oil! Not RB issue. 2. satinghostrider - confirmed pistons broken + unknown amount of bearing wear, possibly due to detonation 3. h4nh - confirmed engine blew up in a later post, supercharged & run 89/91 fuel! 4. 5. Sti2e92sedan - confirmed seized engine but NOT RBs fault, failed oil pump 6. 7. xcuzem3 - confirmed blown engine, injector stuck open, 20k miles, replaced under CPO warrantee, MY2011 - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1206755 8. 9. MPoweredAuto - piston destroyed shortly after being supercharged - https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636991 , MY 2008 10. BMW Fanatik - confirmed engine failure, rods 3 & 5 broken, but big suspicion of other factors. His engine definitely died, but it probably was originally been damaged by being hydraulically locked from sucking water in a "massive puddle"! 12k kms!(7.5k miles), somehow he got it done under warranty! 11. stubble88 - confirmed bearings failed (unknown which), 20k miles, replaced by BMW, reman engine (no more info. Poster went inactive 2015), slightly changed link, https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=226, tracked, MY 2013, USA, CA 12. Regular guy's customer (?) - engine seized, 40k miles, MY 2008, USA, no further info. 13. JRLittle - confirmed broken rod, 500 miles!! Possible contributory factor? - RPM run in limit exceeded. MY 2010 14. magicknife - confirmed engine failure, replaced by BMW under warranty, cause unknown other than a very loud ticking noise heard over the phone! Unknown miles and year. (PM'd 18-2-24) 15. 16. 17. M33DDIE - confirmed engine failure, cause unknown, but piston was removed from original engine to inspect, BMW replaced engine under warrantee (no further info), 35k miles, MY 2008, UK 18. 19. 20. Gabergab - confirmed blown engine at 65k kms (40.4k miles), engine replaced by BMW, 4 mths out of warrantee, 70% goodwill payment (no further info), tracked regularly, Italy, MY 2007 21. Ging - confirmed blown engine but NOT rod bearings, this was a rare case of a rod breaking (Arrow rods, bearings were free), 24k kms (14.9k miles), forced induction (7.5 PSI). 22. 2jzinsider - confirmed blown engine, failed bearings (unknown which), 62k miles, MY 2011, USA, CA 23. Pepper135i - confirmed engine failed, possible describes a misfire, 20k miles, tuned, BMW replaced engine under warrantee (no more info), MY 2012, USA, NC 24. BostonS65 - confirmed engine failure, but unknown cause (but 'metal everywhere' inside engine & cyl 4 had no compression), states always warmed up, 3.1k miles!, MY 2013, USA, MA 25. 26. Omni2702 - confirmed bearings failed but due to oil pump failure, 52k miles, MY 2008. 27. 28. 29. chief - confirmed blown engine (windowed block, thrown conrod) but caused by a stuck open injector, see here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...57&postcount=4, 69k miles, pictures here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showth...4#post20783124, MY 2008 30. Page Not Found - confirmed bearings failed (unknown cause, or which ones, but implies RBs, he never posted the update thread he mentioned) 53k miles, MY 2010 31. E92NJM3 - holed piston due to a failed injector!, nothing to do with bearings, MY 2010, USA, NJ 32. Locker - 47k, cracked pistons on 1 bank, no5 broken rings, UK - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...failure.36943/ 33. GSTE34 - confirmed blown engine (rod thrown), 88k miles, but NOT due to RBs but a rod bolt falling out! additional info from https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=17, MY 2008 34. LionKing79 - injector failure, bore wash, 66k miles, MY 2007 - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...jector.180735/, UK 35. maxe93 (now Maxf80M3) - confirmed blown engine but not RBs! No3 piston melted (unknown cause), 150k kms (93.2k miles), corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...78&postcount=1, MY 2008 36. byronic (work mate) - injector failure, hydralocked engine, 35.8k miles, MY 2011, UK - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...e-bore.189169/ 37. Jmags41 - confirmed con rod broken in 1/2!, 50k miles, supercharged for 25k, no further info, MY 2012 38. deansbimmer - confirmed broken conrod, bought as a parts car, ~80k miles, no further info, extra info from here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2505, MY 2008 39. maicol76 (2nd engine!) - confirmed blown engine, but is due to piston contacting a detached valve head! (engine 45-52k miles, 2013), tracked exclusively for 3yrs upto then. MY 2011, engine 2013. 40. Fstylin - only confirmed "metal shavings in oil" & "odd noise from engine", dealer suspected rod bearings but engine not fully inspected, no other info, USA, TX (PM'd 28-2-24, but was last active 7-2018!). 41. StuttgartBMW - suspected RBs, but engine hadn't been stripped & op didn't report back, 68k miles, MY 2008, USA, FL 42. 43. JTHOR312 - only confirmed damaged engine, "cyl 1 is scorched" and "burned oil", post is so vague it's almost completely useless, no further info, MY 2011 44. Bluestorm - confirmed seized engine, allegedly from overfilling with oil! (seems unlikely), 42.5k miles, no further info, MY 2012, USA, MD 45. cblack201 - confirmed seized engine, 71k miles, previously had a crank & bearings at 64k! No further info, corrected link https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...7#post30111247, MY 2008, USA, WA 46. T!m@ - not confirmed, 'cracked block, overheated' (link to photo sometimes works! confirmed cracked block), ~100k kms (~62k miles), (info from PM), MY 2008. 47. Reported by M Power-Belgium, burnout video - confirmed engine blown, in the video you see a conrod on the floor! The big end is darkened & still so hot that it's vaporising the adjacent oil! Due to the nature of abuse maybe the oil overheated & got too thin?? No further info. 48. NathBatch - cyl 6 low on compression, bore scope shows "wear marks", UK - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...e-help.207785/ 49. bblefas - confirmed blown engine, 14.5k miles, replaced by BMW under warrantee, "something about the connecting rod cylinder 5 went", possibly a seized main though as he mentions it originally went in for a starter, no further info, MY 2011, USA, MA (not active since 1-2015). 50. scaryharry19 - confirmed blown engine (broken rod & piston), supercharged for ~22k miles, fault with SC boost control is thought to be the cause of failure, 72k miles, MY 2008, USA, AL 51. drifts500 (friend's car) - not confirmed blown engine due to bearings, had a cracked block, cause uncertain, 90k miles, MY 2009, South Korea. 52. kuy902 - confirmed blown engine, tracked a lot and supercharged (690 bhp!!! https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...7&postcount=57 ), no further info, MY 2008, New Zealand 53. bergerking - confirmed seized engine, 132k miles, engine not stripped, no further info, MY 2011, USA 54. RAWM3EVO - "broken valve spring on cylinder 2", 82.8k miles, MY 2008 (from Help on write-off question) - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...6/post-1485029 55. kiquos - confirmed blown engine (rod thrown) just after RBs changed, but NOT the bearings fault as their is evidence that a rod bolt dropped out!, 80k miles, better info here https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=452, MY 2011. 56. ebay car with replaced motor - unknown cause for replacement, 12k miles, (reg. DTF 3139, NY, car seems familiar??), MY 2012 57. ebay car with blown motor - confirmed 'bad engine' only, ad also stated 'will likely need a new engine', 60.2k miles, corrected link https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2477, MY 2011. 58. deansbimmer - case 8 from message below, confirmed blown engine caused by injector failure, no MY or mileage. 59. williocom, dead engine (no further info), 20k miles, BMW replaced under warranty https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...2&postcount=16, MY 2011, USA, VA 60. Nomore - 3 cylinders down on compression, 1 scored, possible broken ring, 52.2k miles, 2008, UK - https://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/threa...roblems.83680/ 61. luvyrteeth - confirmed engine blown, 'bearing failure', no more info, 75k miles, (have PMed) https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...83&postcount=3, MY 2008, USA, CA. 62. paul604 - confirmed seized engine, no further info https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...3&postcount=16, MY 2010, Can., Vancouver. 63. M3drop - injector stuck open and hydrolocked engine, 62k miles, https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...6&postcount=68 , MY 2011. 64. jackmahoney - confirmed "Either a broken valve spring or failed lifter or both, leading to a dropped valve" (10k miles on WPC bearings), 67k miles, https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1751543, MY 2008. 65. ThatM3guy - confirmed dead engine, "cylinder 6 doesnt hold pressure", but as of 02/03/2024 unknown cause (but bearings seems unlikely), 123k miles, MY 2011, USA, CA. (PM'd 2-3-24) 66. jvictormp - no5 cyl con rod broke in half, it's rod bearing was fine! Likely cause is the injector on that cylinder had failed 2 yrs(!) before and hydrolocked the engine on several attempts at trying to start the engine, and thus probably weakening the con rod, more info here, with photos. 67. grantwoodOK - Likely bearing failure of 2nd engine, photos of metal from oil filter https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=162, & heavy tapping/knocking https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=139, MY 2011, USA, FL. Still no update as of 2-3-2024 (just bumped thread. Poster last active 9-2020). 68. Petej1 - 2nd engine RBs?? 52.2k miles, copper glitter in oil. PM'd 10-2-24, car sold shortly afterwards. 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Bert (from BE IIRC) has given me a slightly more updated list from 6-2015 (I'll attach it to this thread). I have now gone through that list and added a few from it to here. [edit 9-2-2024] Their are 12 cases listed here in Regular guy's S65 bearing clearance wiki, sadly the links to the photos don't work anymore, and there's no way to know if these blown or damaged engines are already in this list. And 6 more here by him as well, but even less info here (a couple of which though do at least say what damage happened, I did add to the list above).
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That wasn't posted today as you posted that the other day in some other thread here
.Do you have any further info for that blown engine? Car year, mileage, was engine stripped? *********** Updated 'confirmed RBs' list with a few more cases.
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Attached is a pic of six S65's on one of our racks waiting tear down. From left to right: 1: 2009 S65B40, 77k miles, 10w60, seized #1 main. 2: S65 4.6, approximately 45k miles on the build, spun #4 bearing, rod broke, hole in the block. 10w60 oil. 2008 block casting date. 3: 2009 S65B40, 63k miles, 10w60, rod knocking, swarf in oil. 4: 2011 S65B40, 44k miles, 10w60, #1/5 spun rods (first journal). 5: 2013 S65B40, 51k miles, 5w50, rod knock- Cyl #6 bearing galled, not spun yet. 6: 2008 S65B40, 120k miles, supercharged, original bearings, 10w60, spun #2/6 journal. Picture #2 are more S65's dismantled and waiting further assessment. One (front and center) was a sleeved 4.4 block that had rod bearing failure after 16k miles from the build. That block may still be good to rebuild. Lower middle block had an injector failure and scored a cylinder. The other two blocks in that pic are main failures and cracked. Quote:
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It always seemed odd that everyone says the S65 with the block cracks are paperweights...seems like some of the well-known AL cylinder head/block repair places could certainly handle the repair.
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Blimey, I'm usually quite sensitive to these noises & I missed that one! Lol, although at least I have the excuse I'm not in the car
.But yea I agree, at the transition from 1s to 2s is where the noise stands out. I've come across loads of customers over the years who either don't hear, or ignore unusual sounds coming from their car!  Oh btw, I've had a PM from CrissiE92, another engine's gone down , he suspects a spun main (I don't know why he suspects that atm), more info to follow. He's a new forum member, but I noticed he's had 2 posts already, so he may have posted in some other thread about it. Not checked yet.buldogge Yea but the issue is, it isn't that they are just cracked, when an engine throws a rod it nearly always punches a hole through the block, which just causes too much damage to be worthwhile &/or even possible to repair. Well, 99.9% of time anyway! See Deansbimmers post about being able to actually repair one! lol Deansbimmer Thanks for the photos & detailed info .I'm confused by 1 of your engine reports though, how do you know with engine no1 that it's no1 main is seized when you haven't torn them down yet? , I'm guessing that you've at least had the sump off & seen that main is discoloured?I'm betting that engine no4's no1 main is buggered, wanta bet against me? Eng no6 did well to do 120k miles, especially with a supercharger!, although, I don't suppose you have any idea how long the supercharger had been on it? That 2nd photo's funny angle is making me dizzy for some reason, lol. Btw, that's a lot of engines in your workshop! Dead engines! Am I counting right at 10 S65s in those photos? I don't suppose you know the mileage of the injector damaged one do you? Did he have no signs of trouble prior to failure? Btw, that's the 3rd engine in this thread were a duff injector has taken the engine out. I wonder if it's worth having the whole set tested after a certain mileage?? Say 100k miles?? What do you reckon? (I think this has been mentioned here once before that I'm aware of, but I don't recall an outcome to that conversation). I appreciate it's a very rare occurrence, but it could be a low(?) cost thing to do to save a possible high cost failure. Actually, how much would it cost just for testing 8 injectors? Or would we just be better off using a fuel cleaner occasionally? Re repaired block, wow! They were lucky! I should listen to my own phrase of 'the only absolute, is their are no absolutes!' . (And no, despite the well known phrase, not even death* & taxes are always absolute ). *e.g. my dad ~2.5 yrs ago! https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/sur...-back-14269547
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That's what saved my engine when my injector stucked open. 40,000 miles. Problem is, Previous owner always used 87 octane fuel without cleaning additives. I did not like that and started putting 95 octane fuel (which contains cleaning additives). Stopped the car for 2 weeks to go offshore to work, when I came back, in the first ride, it happened. |
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