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E90/E92 M3 Exhaust Systems Overview
I thought it would be helpful to have a reference thread. This thread was created as a primer, not a one-stop thread, and the burden is still on the buyer to do his/her research. I'll try to keep the first post of this updated... the thread will definitely be a work in progress.
Note: Prices may be off. Some prices are introductory prices, some are estimated prices before production, some are MSRP... I have zero interest in keeping track of prices as they fluctuate (across time and across vendors). - Please refrain from starting up discussions about specific exhausts. - Links to the manufacturer/performance line are in blue. - Links to the primary distributor are in green. I'd like to keep this as useful as possible. Suggestions, corrections, comments are all helpful. *Please check out frankzlin79's thread for an outstanding video comparing multiple exhausts: E9X M3 Exhaust Comparison Video AC Schnitzer Sport Discussion Thread Made in Austria (by Remus) Price: $3219 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 AC Schnitzer Video: 1 2 DL1 AC Schnitzer Race (aka Export Version) Discussion Thread Made in Austria (by Remus) Price: $3219 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 2 AlpenWhite25 Video: 1 Active Autowerke E9X M3 Signature Exhaust System Discussion Thread Price: $2695 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: polished 100% 304 stainless steel Installation: bolt-on Weight: 41 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: 12-15 HP ; up to 17+ HP (and 7+ Ft Lbs) with AA programmed software Video: 1 Pictures: Active Autowerke E9X M3 Signature X Pipe and Connecting Pipes Discussion Thread Price: $1995 (race pipe version); +$1395 for high flow cats Exhaust Type: header-back mid section with x-pipe (also with high flow cate or race pipe) Construction: 100% Polished 304 Stainless Steel Installation: V Band design Weight: 25 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: dyno chart Video (prototype race pipe option with AA muffler): 1 Pictures: AE Performance Exhaust Discussion Thread Price: $1,995 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: Full T-304 Stainless Steel Construction Installation: bolt-on Weight: 17 Pound Reduction in Weight Over OE System Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: Agency Power Exhaust System Discussion Thread Price: $1,750 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual canister Construction: T304 stainless steel exhaust Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 5hp and 3ft/lbs of torque Video: 1 Pictures: Akrapovič Evolution Exhaust System Discussion Thread Discussion Thread 2 Price: $5,623 Exhaust Type: header-back dual muffler Construction: titanium Weight: 23 kg under stock Claimed Performance Gains: 24 PS plus; 35 Nm plus Video: 1 Audio: 1 Pictures: Akrapovič Slip-on Exhaust System Discussion Thread Price: Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: titanium Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 3 PS plus; 4 Nm plus Video: Amuse Ericsson M480 Titanium Performer Extra Discussion Thread Made in Japan Price: Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: titanium Installation: bolt-on Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Amuse Ericsson M480 Titanium Performer Discussion Thread Made in Japan Price: $6891 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: titanium Installation: bolt-on Weight: 29.26 lbs PencilGeek Performance Gains (full titanium system): +5 HP, +37 TQ link PencilGeek Video (full titanium system): 1 Socale92 Video (w/ SS mid section): 1 Pictures: Amuse Ericsson Sports Catalyzer Made in Japan Price: $4298 Exhaust Type: header-back mid section with x-pipe Construction: stainless steel Installation: bolt-on Weight: 31.68 Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Amuse Ericsson Sports Catalyzer, Titanium Made in Japan Price: $6508 Exhaust Type: header-back mid section with x-pipe Construction: titanium Installation: bolt-on Weight: 22.88 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Arqray Stainless Sport Muffler Discussion Thread Made in Japan Price: $2550 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Installation: bolt-on Weight: 20 kg Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Arqray Titanium Tail Discussion Thread Made in Japan Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: stainless steel with titanium Installation: bolt-on Weight: 20 kg Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Arqray Titanium Silencer Discussion Thread Made in Japan Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: titanium Installation: bolt-on Weight: 12.3 kg Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: B&B Exhaust (prototype) Discussion Thread Price: $1695 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: Installation: Weight: 37 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Bastuck ClubSport (New Design) Discussion Thread (Old Design) Discussion Thread (New Design) Made in Germany Price: Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Installation: includes flanges for swapping with MotorSport version Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Bastuck MotorSport Discussion Thread Made in Germany Price: Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Installation: includes flanges for swapping with ClubSport version Weight: 24 lbs (14 kg) Claimed Performance Gains: Not tested by Bastuck yet. Video: 1 Pictures: BMW Performance Exhaust Discussion Thread Price: $3,500.00 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: Installation: Weight: ~20 lb reduction from stock Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Borla Discussion Thread Price: $1475.99 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: T-304 stainless steel Installation: bolt-on Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Bob@BPS Video: 1 Pictures: Dinan Free Flow Exhaust Discussion Thread Price: $2299 Exhaust Type: muffler Construction: 304 stainless steel; ceramic-coated tips Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 6 hp @ 6800 rpm; 5 lb/ft @ 6800 rpm Video: 1 Dinan Racing Middle Exhaust Discussion Thread Price: $2299.00 Exhaust Type: Construction: Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Dixis Spirit Discussion Thread Made in Japan Price: $5400 (MSRP); built to order Exhaust Type: single muffler Construction: titanium Weight: 17.2 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: 11 HP Arsenal Video: 1 Pictures: Eisenmann Sport Discussion Thread Discussion Thread 2 Made in Germany Price: $2839 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler; 83mm tips Construction: stainless steel Installation: cut & weld replacement; connecting pipes available Weight: 46 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: backpressure reduction of 25% over OEM Video: 1 2 Pictures: Eisenmann Race Discussion Thread Discussion Thread 2 Made in Germany Price: $2839 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Installation: cut & weld replacement; connecting pipes available Weight: 46 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: backpressure reduction of 32% over OEM; +16hp, +11lb-ft Video: 1 2 3 Encore Innovation Titanium Exhaust System Discussion Thread Price: $2,999 introductory; MSRP: $3,699 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: titanium Weight: 18.55 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: 7.2 hp, 9.4 ft lbs Video: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Pictures: Encore Innovation M3 X-pipe w/ High Flow Cat Discussion Thread Price: $2299 Exhaust Type: header-back mid section with x-pipe and high flow cats (catless version in development) Construction: 304 stainless steel Installation: Weight: 27 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: 14.7 whp; 20.6 lbs torque Video: Pictures: Encore Innovation Titanium X-Pipe w/ High Flow Cat Price: $4299 Exhaust Type: mid section Construction: titanium Weight: 19 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Fabspeed Maxflo Muffler System Discussion Thread Price: $1,995 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual canister Construction: T304 stainless steel Weight: ~17 lb reduction over stock Claimed Performance Gains: Video: DL 1 Pictures: Fabspeed Performance Package with Resonators Discussion Thread 1 Discussion Thread 2 Price: $2449 (can be purchased in sections) Exhaust Type: header-back with high-flow primary cats; x pipe Construction: T304 stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 33 whp Video: 1 Pictures: Fame Freiheit Exhaust Discussion Thread Made in Japan Price: $3500 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: SUS304 stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 2 3 Pictures: Fame Freiheit Center Section Made in Japan Price: Exhaust Type: mid section Construction: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Fujitsubo Zega Exhaust System Discussion Thread Price: $3660 Exhaust Type: cat-back dual muffler Construction: titanium Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: DL Pictures: G-Power (discontinued) Discussion Thread Price: $2400 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Gintani Exhaust System Discussion Thread Price: $1995 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: 304 stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 8-12 Horsepower gain Video: 1 2 3 Gintani Full Exhaust System Discussion Thread Price: $3995 (X Pipe Section can be purchased indidivually for $2000) Exhaust Type: header-back dual muffler Construction: 304 stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 20-30 Horsepower gain Video: 1 2 3 4 (x-pipe & mufflers) Pictures: GruppeM Discussion Thread Made in Japan Price: $4500 Exhaust Type: Sec 2, dual muffler Construction: titanium Weight: 20 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: GruppeM Video: 1 edlms Video: 1 2 Pictures: Hamann Discussion Thread Made in Italy & Germany Price: Exhaust Type: header-to-muffler (metal catalyser as well as a middle section) by Supersprint; dual muffler #1 by Eisenmann (Race Version); dual muffler #2 by Supersprint (Sport/Race Version) Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 2 3 4 Pictures: HARTGE Rear Silencer Price: Exhaust Type: axle-back single muffler Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: HARTGE Exhaust System Price: £4988 Exhaust Type: header-back single muffler Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 20 HP Video: Pictures: Herrmann Discussion Thread Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: LowG Video: 1 2 3 4 5 6 iPE Valvetronic Exhaust System Discussion Thread Price: Exhaust Type: Full exhaust and axle-back options available Construction: Stainless Steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: (see discussion thread for pictures and video) KKS-Performance Discussion Thread Discussion Thread 2 Price: $4199 with butterfly valves ($2699 without) Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: stainless steel (optional titanium tips) Weight: 30% reduction Claimed Performance Gains: 10 whp Video: 1 2 Pictures: Kreis-sieg Valvetronic F1 Discussion Thread Discussion Thread 2 (Epacy2 Install w Vids) Discussion Thread 3 Made in Japan Price: SS tip $5,850; Billet tip $6,350; Ti tip $6,450 Exhaust Type: post-resonator, clamp on dual muffler Construction: stainless steel (optional titanium tips) Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video (w/ X-Pipe): 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 Pictures: Kreis-sieg Front X-Pipe Made in Japan Price: purchase directly Exhaust Type: header-back mid section with x-pipe; eliminates resonators and cats Construction: stainless steel Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Lightweight Titanauspuffanlagen Exhausts Discussion Thread Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Magnaflow Performance Exhaust Discussion Thread Price: $1,814,86 Exhaust Type: cat-back Construction: stainless steel Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: +18hp and +4torque to the wheel DEAN325i Video: 1 2 3 Pictures: Megan Racing Axle Back Discussion Thread Price: $600.00 Exhaust Type: axle-back Construction: T-304 Stainless Steel (optional titanium tips) Installation: bolt-on Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: Mille Miglia Eshaust Discussion Thread Price: Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: Milltek Sport Discussion Thread 1 Discussion Thread 2 Price: $1699 Exhaust Type: cat-back single muffler Construction: stainless steel Installation: Weight: 48 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: MRF Engineering Velaforza Exhaust System Price: Exhaust Type: header-back Construction: Full Stainless Steel SS304, SS321 Construction Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 28 RWHP, 22 RWTQ Video: Pictures: Power-Craft Hybrid Exhaust System Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: Racing Dynamics Sport Discussion Thread Price: $2800 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Installation: bolt-on Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 12 HP Video: 1 Pictures: Remus Sport Discussion Thread Made in Austria Price: $1420 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Weight: 44 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: 10 CHP; backpressure reduction of 63% over OEM; TUV/EC approved Speedtrap Video: 1 Video: 1 2 3 Pictures: Remus Race Discussion Thread Made in Austria Price: $1420 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Weight: 44 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: 10+ CHP; backpressure reduction of 63+% over OEM; not TUV/EC approved sfbimmer13 Video: 1 2 ChitownM3 Video: 1 Revinora Exhaust (prototype) Discussion Thread Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Oshin02 Video: 1 2 3 4 RGMotorsport Conversion Performance Exhaust System Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: stainless steel Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: see website Video: Rogue Engineering Diablo Sport (prototype) Discussion Thread Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Rogue Engineering Diablo Race (prototype) Discussion Thread Price: Exhaust Type: Construction: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 2 RPi Axle Back Muffler Assembly Discussion Thread Price: $1707.00 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 5-10whp Video: Pictures: RPi GT Front Pipe/Cat Delete Discussion Thread Price: $1299.00 Exhaust Type: header to axle mid=section Construction: T-304 stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Sosi Performance X-Pipe Discussion Thread Price: $595.00 Exhaust Type: x-pipe (replaces secondary cats and resonators) Construction: T304 stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: Supersport Duplex Exhaust [Export Version] Discussion Thread Price: €* 1.546,94 Exhaust Type: Construction: Installation: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: Supersprint Street Made in Italy Price: $2630 Exhaust Type: axle-back single muffler Installation: needs connecting pipes, Supersprint produces some Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: Supersprint Sport/Race (Left) (Right) Discussion Thread Made in Italy Price: $1045 (per side) Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Installation: needs connecting pipes, Supersprint produces some Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: 27.5 HP (for full header-back race) kosh Video: 1 2 Pictures: Supersprint X Pipe Discussion Thread Made in Italy Price: $683 Exhaust Type: resonator replacement Construction: stainless steel Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Pictures: Supersprint Header-back Mid Section Made in Italy Price: Exhaust Type: header-back mid section with x-pipe (only available through Hamann) Construction: Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: Tubi Style Discussion Thread Made in Italy Price: $3440 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel Installation: clamp-on mufflers Weight: 42 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 2 3 Pictures: UUC Motorwerks RSC (by Corsa) Discussion Thread Made in USA Price: $1599 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: 2.5” 304SS tubing Installation: bolt-on Weight: 30% weight reduction Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 fuzzy123 Video: 1 2 3 4 5 Pictures: Vanguard Performance Titanium Exhaust Discussion Thread Price: $3199 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: titanium Weight: < 19 lbs Claimed Performance Gains: 13whp, 6ft/lbs tq Video: 1 Vanquish Hyper Tornado Mufflers Made in Japan Price: JPY 398,000, Cash Retail: JPY 355,950 Exhaust Type: dual muffler Construction: stainless steel with Iconel (titanium alloy) tips Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: preserved low end torque Video: 1 Vorsteiner Discussion Thread 1 Discussion Thread 2 Price: $3499 Exhaust Type: single muffler, rear section, x pipe Construction: titanium Installation: bolt-on Weight: 17.33 lbs (37 lbs savings) Claimed Performance Gains: peak HP gain= 14hp, peak torque gain= 13.23 lb/ft Vorsteiner Video: 1 badfish Video: 1 2 3 Video: 1 Pictures: X-OST Maranello Exhaust Discussion Thread Price: $2699 Exhaust Type: axle-back dual muffler Construction: 2 sound levels; optional carbon fiber tips Installation: clamp Weight: Claimed Performance Gains: Video: 1 Pictures: Other Amuse Ericsson headers ASR Engineering Exhaust ASR Engineering Full Exhaust Autobahn Exotics Race (development) Borla X-Pipe With Test Pipes and Resonators BlueWave Engineering Mufflers (development) GT Haus (Eisenhaus), multiple exhausts RD Sport headers (stroker & stock applications) Riss Racing Exhaust Riss Racing X-Pipe Section Exhaust Last edited by Griz; 10-03-2011 at 07:01 PM.. |
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Thanks for taking the time to assemble that info! EDIT: For the money, Remus is looking really good about now! Seriously, $1,500 is alot for an exhaust IMHO....I like the Eisenmann, but $2800? Damn. Hell, if I had my pick, I would prolly go with the GruppeM, but I cannot justify spending $4,500 on a freakin exhaust, let alone $2,800.
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Very good thread!
There are also backpressure reduction numbers which are important and to an extent, give better details regarding R&D and performance gains : Sport: Backpressure reduction of 63% over OEM TUV approved RACE not TUV approved |
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Dude GREAT POST
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funny.. i was about to make a thread on systems that use flanges, and dont need hacking off the stock exhaust. but since this thread exists do u mind indicating next to the system u list please?
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i have a autobahn exotics prototype, i know the production will be bolt on with flanges... Last edited by !Xoible; 08-20-2008 at 06:52 PM.. |
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This thread is a good idea, how do we indicate whether it's a bolt-on versus clamp on, weld, cut, etc?
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Regarding Eisenamnn, both systems retail for $2,895., according to IND. Backspressure reduction is 25% for Sport, 32% for Race. Tip diameter would be another good listing. Stock is 76mm. Eisenmann is 83mm.
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very usefully...thank you...
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So with the two other suggestions for tip diameter and tip type, maybe just add a section for tip. So you can put like "Quad slanted tip/76mm" Oh yeah, and remove Meisterschaft/Eisenhaus lest anyone be encouraged to buy their garbage...
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Good thread
Can you please add a "Made in" Kreissieg Made in Japan Amuse Made in Japan Dixis Made in Japan GruppeM Made in Japan Eisenhaus Made in Korea Hamann Made in Italy SuperSprint Made in Italy Remus Made in Austria ACS Made in Austria Bastuck Made in Germany Eisenmann Made in Germany Not sure about the rest??
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Great thread. I am trying to decide now between the Eisenmann and Vorsteiner. Not a huge difference in price, Vorsteiner is lightweight titanium, and doesn't require hacking off stock muffler. Negative is that durability of titanium is questionable and this is Vorsteiner's first exhaust. ANy thought on this or which you would go with?
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Great Thread. Here is one to add
Tubi Style: http://www.beastpower.com/Merchant2/...ategory_Code=1 I guess the weight would be 42lbs based on the shipping weight, and the rep from Champion Motorsport said that MSRP is $3440
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