Example of mass bearing hysteria

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Edward

I purchased a new engine lift
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Z9961U?psc=1
so I can be ready to do some rod bearing work when mine fail. You do have to remove the motor for bearing replacement work right?

=> http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1074496

[grantmax]

Originally Posted by Ezio

Ehh my biggest problems with the F80 is sound. I am also not in love with the looks, that doesnt mean i think the E92 looks better either. BUT if it had a twin turbo V8 like the C63, i would probably have gotten one over a stingray. So i wont say the F80 is a total no brainer. but if it works for you, its a great car.

It is a great car. The best part? They haven't had a SINGLE rod bearing failure.

I feel like my e92 is the Titanic and the rod bearing on cylinder 6 is the iceberg.

[Edward]

Originally Posted by grantmax

It is a great car. The best part? They haven't had a SINGLE rod bearing failure.

I feel like my e92 is the Titanic and the rod bearing on cylinder 6 is the iceberg.

The connecting rod blasting through the micro block is the iceberg impact. The bad bearing is akin to the dudes in the crows nest that spotted the iceberg too late.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by grantmax

It is a great car. The best part? They haven't had a SINGLE rod bearing failure.

I feel like my e92 is the Titanic and the rod bearing on cylinder 6 is the iceberg.

the S65 is a high revving race bred engine, yes its going to have more problems than some engines. The S55 is a newer,and a completely different engine. Maybe it wont have rod bearing problem, but maybe it will have other problems. OR maybe it will be a solid engine.

Either way I personally dont care a lot about problems like this. Because I have a warranty. If i decided to keep my E92 i would replace the rod bearings or sell the car. Its that simple.

[Flying Ace]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

WTF are you guys talking about ?!?!

rofl, I believe everything coming from the Iraqi Minister of Information. If he says no problems, then no problems.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

rofl, I believe everything coming from the Iraqi Minister of Information. If he says no problems, then no problems.

Yeah , he can know it !

[SheaButter]

Just an excuse to build the engine

[pbonsalb]

Great opportunity for DIYers. This is $600-$800 in parts and 8-14 hours labor.

[uisim]

Lol I cant tell if some of you are joking or are serious anymore... The F80 just came out of course there are no bearing issues yet...... On a serious note my 09 has 49k on it, be real with me, how long do I have doc?

[crypticc]

Originally Posted by uisim

Lol I cant tell if some of you are joking or are serious anymore... The F80 just came out of course there are no bearing issues yet...... On a serious note my 09 has 49k on it, be real with me, how long do I have doc?

It's actually just gone while you were parked. More seriously, the numbers are barely out of double digits that we know of

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by grantmax

+2.

My M4 is in order. Better platform in every way without an inevitable $20,000+ in replacement engine related expenses? No brainer. IMO.

Right, because the F8x has been around long enough for all of the gremlins to be known. We all definitely knew about the bearing issue when the E6x/E9x had been out for the same amount of time.

And "inevitable" $20K repair? Give me a break.

[jphughan]

Originally Posted by Edward

I purchased a new engine lift
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Z9961U?psc=1
so I can be ready to do some rod bearing work when mine fail. You do have to remove the motor for bearing replacement work right?

No

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by uisim

Lol I cant tell if some of you are joking or are serious anymore... The F80 just came out of course there are no bearing issues yet...... On a serious note my 09 has 49k on it, be real with me, how long do I have doc?

Between 1 mile and 200k miles. Wish there was a way to be more specific.

[Honda]

Originally Posted by Edward

I purchased a new engine lift
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Z9961U?psc=1
so I can be ready to do some rod bearing work when mine fail. You do have to remove the motor for bearing replacement work right?

no you don't need to remove the engine AFAIK.

[BzsBimmer]

The true sign of this galacial problem is that ARP has a backorder of these studs lmao

[pbonsalb]

Try Carillo.

[GVIFlyer]

FWIW. The service manager at my BMW dealership in a major metropolitan area and I served in combat together, so I trust him. Though they sell a lot of M cars, he tells me that he has never seen a bearing issue on a E9X M3 in his service department (E46 M3-Yes, E9X M3-No). I've had two E93s and my present E92 Coupe and the only issue I've had with any of them has been with the origami top on one of the convertibles.

[MachinesWithSouls]

Everyone has different opinions on this matter. I guess I'll go by this:

The e92 bearings are speced to tight
People don't break them in, or warm them up properly
People only complain when something is wrong
People supercharge or mod engines
BMW set ridiculous oil change intervals
Oil analysis may or may not tell something, depending on the year.

Since I bought mine new, and have been with it since the beginning, I'm in no rush to sell it. When the time comes, I'll probably do the bearings. But if BMW made 80,000 of these cars, and 5,000 fail, and 2,000 are due to improper owner care, then is it really something to worry and sell the car over?

My M3 has been good to me, the best. I'm not going to throw it away because it might do something 80,000 miles from now.

[BzsBimmer]

Originally Posted by uisim

Lol I cant tell if some of you are joking or are serious anymore... The F80 just came out of course there are no bearing issues yet...... On a serious note my 09 has 49k on it, be real with me, how long do I have doc?

The F80 won't have bearing issues
they will have ultra high pressure fuel pump issues and blown waste gates like the 335 crowd except because it's an M, it'll cost 3x as much.

[GVIFlyer]

Originally Posted by BzsBimmer

The F80 won't have bearing issues
they will have ultra high pressure fuel pump issues and blown waste gates like the 335 crowd except because it's an M, it'll cost 3x as much.

That's my take; the new S55 motor is little more than a gussied up sedan engine and will likely be subject to the same problems that the motor experienced in other applications.

[SenorFunkyPants]

The fail rate is still loitering around the 1.5% mark...0% would be better but 1.5% is not that bad.
Get a warranty or, change your bearings at some time or, take the 98.5% chance it won't break or sell it if you can't take the stress.

[pbonsalb]

Originally Posted by Edward

I purchased a new engine lift
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000Z9961U?psc=1
so I can be ready to do some rod bearing work when mine fail. You do have to remove the motor for bearing replacement work right?

No need to remove the engine -- that would be way, way too much work. I have done the job twice. You do have to unbolt the front subframe and that leaves the engine unsupported in the front. You could support it with an engine hoist, but the hoist does not go very high if you are using a lift for under car access. If the car is on jackstands and you are doing the job on your back, the hoist would work. Most use a fender/strut tower support bar. Harbor Freight sells them for about $60 on sale. That is what I use.