Poor GT3

[YMB_F80]

Originally Posted by s85e90

Not surprised at all. I felt bad for the 993 he just picked up when I saw it on instagram. And that car won awards and was featured in the Toyo booth for SEMA>

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Theres more to this story but I won't get into it. Creaminz builds amazing cars and is a true car enthusiast. As to the work done on the car, there is a long story and only they can speak on that. But from my own experience, both my E90 335i and my F80 have been superb jobs.

Originally Posted by SilentAttack

Cream has some nice cars and modz. I see how he affords them now...

You sound like a jealous kid.. Please.. if you don't know the true story or what Creaminz does keep your thoughts to yourself.


As for the thread. The suspension on Creaminz GT3 was not like that.. We were able to do Targa Trophy and did the whole run with no problems. (car rode straight and none of those problems the guy mentioned ever occurred) They have had the Porsche for a couple weeks already, who know what they did with the car. I know they purchased it as a track car so I am not quite sure what they had done already.

[Sco Cuddie]

^^ Its understandable to believe that the suspension items could have been damaged during the owner's possession. But the hack paint jobs? For a $140k car?!

[to_riffic]

I don't think anyone can really speak for Creamiz, but creamiz himself unfortunately and I could easily come in here and defend the shop or Darren or anyone for that matter. Heck, I knew LTMW and everyone there until I realized it just wasn't a place for me anymore.

The pictures speak for themselves sadly.

[to_riffic]

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[ilikebmxbikes]

Originally Posted by Victorwu120

Theres more to this story but I won't get into it. Creaminz builds amazing cars and is a true car enthusiast. As to the work done on the car, there is a long story and only they can speak on that. But from my own experience, both my E90 335i and my F80 have been superb jobs.



You sound like a jealous kid.. Please.. if you don't know the true story or what Creaminz does keep your thoughts to yourself.


As for the thread. The suspension on Creaminz GT3 was not like that.. We were able to do Targa Trophy and did the whole run with no problems. (car rode straight and none of those problems the guy mentioned ever occurred) They have had the Porsche for a couple weeks already, who know what they did with the car. I know they purchased it as a track car so I am not quite sure what they had done already.

Creaminz no doubt is an enthusiast. Whatever went between him and the buyer during the transaction is between them. Who knows what was disclosed or what was or wasnt damaged in shipping. It is also possible that the issues were not known to creaminz. Who knows.

The photographs and poor workmanship reflect LTMW more than anything. If I were creaminz I would be pissed that ltmw built the car like that.

[Hierlevelz]

Zip-ties and self tapping screw...say it ain't so?

[8_is_enough]

damn, Y U NO PPI???

[Law]

This whole liberty walk style fad has little substance besides garnering social media traffic.

What a great idea to take new, clean title, & engineered driving cars and make them hardly drive-able whilst compromising the structural safety, bodywork aesthetics and paint quality of said vehicles, essentially rendering them worthless.

And forget about clean bodywork, let's rivet those fenders on with rust-prone self tapping screws.


But dawg 3941893248 likes on instagram bruh

[CIFUM3]

Why is the buyer willing to do all the fixing?? That's adding thousands of dollars to the $100k+ car. I would have sent this garbage back! The liberty walk guys probably did one car right and then they got flooded with demand and started making sub par kits! Exhibit A this GT3.
Just my .02 cents

[GotE46M]

LTMW is a joke... overrated hack jobs.

[GO-RAN]

Definitely a real hack job. The guy should go after the shop and this creamz character. He didnt even register the car in his name and drove around a few k while the car was still registrred under the previous owner.

Scumbag no matter how you slice the cake.

He also said he was donate a percentage of the final sale to a good cause... Why not help the poor new owner out instead? Complete lies !!

[NYBulldog]

Originally Posted by GO-RAN

He also said he was donate a percentage of the final sale to a good cause... Why not help the poor new owner out instead? Complete lies !!

donate? lmao i'm pretty sure he plans on buying a lambo or ferrari from his IG. Some real dic^hed stuff going on here. He says it was fine while he had it. Those calipers and suspension just blow my mind. The body kit stuff I see happen all the time. I couldn't believe they got it out to SEMA with that ugly blue paint job. I loved the mint, it looked unbelievable. A rushed job rarely ever comes out decent.

[vsix]

Originally Posted by OMRITIME

I'm pissed
And feel sorry for that guy...

Only a**hole do this stuff!

I would suggest someone raises a fund for this man. You know we are all just talking but noone take's action! We don't know how hard this guy's wallet had been hit, what we do know by now though, is that an honest shop owner stepped into the show-car-trap and to raise a fund....would be the tiniest thing we could do!

Hope someone local pick's my idea up and help's this man...I feel really sorry for him

[s85e90]

Originally Posted by Victorwu120

Theres more to this story but I won't get into it. Creaminz builds amazing cars and is a true car enthusiast. As to the work done on the car, there is a long story and only they can speak on that. But from my own experience, both my E90 335i and my F80 have been superb jobs.



You sound like a jealous kid.. Please.. if you don't know the true story or what Creaminz does keep your thoughts to yourself.


As for the thread. The suspension on Creaminz GT3 was not like that.. We were able to do Targa Trophy and did the whole run with no problems. (car rode straight and none of those problems the guy mentioned ever occurred) They have had the Porsche for a couple weeks already, who know what they did with the car. I know they purchased it as a track car so I am not quite sure what they had done already.

You sound like his cheerleader. An enthusiast? I dunno, seems like he's like most wealthy car guys and buys cars to drop them off with blank checks to build them. I would give more respect if he did the work himself. He was also asking wayyyyy too much for a hacked up 997. I do feel bad for the 993.

[s85e90]

Originally Posted by vsix

I would suggest someone raises a fund for this man. You know we are all just talking but noone take's action! We don't know how hard this guy's wallet had been hit, what we do know by now though, is that an honest shop owner stepped into the show-car-trap and to raise a fund....would be the tiniest thing we could do!

Hope someone local pick's my idea up and help's this man...I feel really sorry for him

You're kidding right? Caveat Emptor! A shop bought the car and he'll make it right. He doesn't need donations. Wanna donate? Help me build my 996 turbo!

[INNOVATE_1]

Originally Posted by Law

This whole liberty walk style fad has little substance besides garnering social media traffic.

What a great idea to take new, clean title, & engineered driving cars and make them hardly drive-able whilst compromising the structural safety, bodywork aesthetics and paint quality of said vehicles, essentially rendering them worthless.

And forget about clean bodywork, let's rivet those fenders on with rust-prone self tapping screws.


But dawg 3941893248 likes on instagram bruh

This.

OP, what would compel you to purchase anything without form or function, let alone what used to be a GT3? It's almost like you asked for it.

[vsix]

Originally Posted by INNOVATE_1

This.

OP, what would compel you to purchase anything without form or function, let alone what used to be a GT3? It's almost like you asked for it.

Maybe his level of trust?

That's the most dangerous that you can do.
To believe another individual has the same (not only limited to buisenes) reliability and safety standard's as you have.



Let me put it this way....only because you think someone somewhere in Philly sell's ZCP wheel's for a good price, doesn't automatically mean it couldn't be a ripoff or more likely a murder waiting for his victim.
Happened many year's ago still happening right now!

Everyone think's this all is an enthusiast's game only, wich maybe is for the majority but there is so much space left in between for criminal action's.

This here is just a tiny little example of what can happen...as I said I wish him luck and hope someone pick's my idea up. Maybe even a GT3 supplier can hook him up with cheaper part's at least I'm hoping someone help's him.

[BobS]

Lesson be learned... get a PPI from a reputable shop (that didn't do the work on the car) before purchasing. Sure it may cost $200-$350 for a PPI, but its worth it, especially when buying a modded car.

The plus of buying a modded car, is the seller will never get the money back he put in so you make out with that, assuming the mods are done right. You can get a car with mods for half the cost of you building it yourself. A PPI is the only real way to know you are getting a bargain instead of a nightmare..... unless you personally know the seller.

[pgviper]

Originally Posted by BobS

Lesson be learned... get a PPI from a reputable shop (that didn't do the work on the car) before purchasing. Sure it may cost $200-$350 for a PPI, but its worth it, especially when buying a modded car.

The plus of buying a modded car, is the seller will never get the money back he put in so you make out with that, assuming the mods are done right. You can get a car with mods for half the cost of you building it yourself. A PPI is the only real way to know you are getting a bargain instead of a nightmare..... unless you personally know the seller.

If you read through the rennlist thread, the buyer asked a friend to check out the car. The friend vouched for the car but was clearly wrong. Buyer realizes he should have just flown from the east coast to the west coast to check it out himself and accepts responsibility for his mistake. His friend is still apologizing.

On the other hand, I posted the rennlist thread in sellers "For Sale" thread on m3post and since then he has deleted the listing. Clearly there is a great deal of fault from the seller's side, more so than from the buyer.

[euro*]

Wow what an eye opener, seeing things like this gets me so angry.

How can this type of work come out of these shops? I would not be able to deliver a car like that to a customer.

I wonder how other cars look like underneath all the wide body!

Quality Build? Vollkommen? LTMW? Creminz? Customers BEWARE

[SilentAttack]

Originally Posted by Victorwu120

Theres more to this story but I won't get into it. Creaminz builds amazing cars and is a true car enthusiast. As to the work done on the car, there is a long story and only they can speak on that. But from my own experience, both my E90 335i and my F80 have been superb jobs.

You sound like a jealous kid.. Please.. if you don't know the true story or what Creaminz does keep your thoughts to yourself.


As for the thread. The suspension on Creaminz GT3 was not like that.. We were able to do Targa Trophy and did the whole run with no problems. (car rode straight and none of those problems the guy mentioned ever occurred) They have had the Porsche for a couple weeks already, who know what they did with the car. I know they purchased it as a track car so I am not quite sure what they had done already.

You sound like a brown noser. I could care less how many cars he has or what's done to them. I was referring to the shit work and how it must make things more affordable.

[AP3X_FTW]

This sums up today's car scene though, doesn't it?

What happened to tastefully moding a car? More importantly, what happened to moding a car with the sole purpose of improving its functionality? Shotty widebody kit's that cost thousands, ridiculously slammed and stanced ride heights, tow hooks and roll bars for cars that will never see more than the parking lot or a Targa Trophy event... as if that is really testing the limits of your high performance sports car. It is all a joke. SEMA 2014 was a perfect example. People love to throw money at their cars.

I wish the new owner the best.