BMW Skytop delivery at the BMW Welt - Exclusive Privacy Room

[Heimdall]

BMW seems to be abandoning the essence of its flagship vehicles. Models like the X7 no longer reflect the craftsmanship and quality expected from a brand that once set the benchmark. Cost- and corner-cutting are becoming too obvious, cheapened finishes, reduced attention to detail, and an overall drop in execution. Meanwhile, ultra-limited models like the Skytop receive all the precision and care that should define the entire lineup, not just a few halo cars with absurd markups.

It’s disappointing to see BMW trading long-term brand integrity and risking customer loyalty for short-term exclusivity and a quick buck.

[NSX2M4]

Originally Posted by Alpine Wait

That's the wrong kind of old and new.

Give us all-analog if they want the desirable kind of old. No one 'wants' a 2018 interior in 2025. 1999 Z8 interior, maybe.

8 years in todays car market is an eternity.
Should they have made the car with an interior from the 2000's?

[MiamiFan13]

Originally Posted by ChipXpert

Yeah, I'm low profile; don't publish my name.

Originally Posted by Phillies8008

That's pretty, if you have money to burn I suppose.

I swear this isn't sour grapes – I believe I'd opt-out of having my picture and name published while taking delivery. Seems kind of douchey, if I'm being honest.

Goes to the "Exclusive PRIVACY Room" and ends up going public to the world. Makes no sense to me. Total douchery unless its proven that he puts 5,000 miles a year on the car and enjoys it.....otherwise what is there to celebrate???

[Alpine Wait]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

8 years in todays car market is an eternity.

Exactly, which is why the laziness is extraordinary.

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

Should they have made the car with an interior from the 2000's?

People would be celebrating, if they indeed copied the '99 Z8 interior in 2025.

[Phillies8008]

Originally Posted by jaffles

I'm new to BMW so know little to be honest. But I am failing to see how that is hundreds of thousands of dollars better than my second hand E92 and E93 m sports. Its not like many of us drive these things to their potential, or the world is not a wash with cars.

But I fully expect ol mate to be there when the limited 30 edition ballet is drawn, and good on him for taking the hit. The nature of marketing, humans, and ownership means generally cars trickle down for others to enjoy.

I'll pass on the Skytop but got my eye on a ex lease M5 touring wagon or M3 in the future, works for me.

I mean, it's not. What people are paying for is the exclusivity and the ego-boost they get out of it. Doesn't make any sense to me, but what do I know?

15 years from now when it shows up at an auction with 800 miles on it, someone else will buy it for the same reason. Rinse, repeat. And the car will sadly never actually be driven and will exist only so someone can say they have it. Humans are so weird, lol.

[Amdusias]

Originally Posted by Dralphie

These manual transmissions in everything dudes are such goofballs. “Ah yes, I’d really like to row through the gears in my ultra luxury vehicle”. Maybe add window cranks too since that’s what I grew up with!

This is comment of the year 👍😂

[jaffles]

Originally Posted by Phillies8008

I mean, it's not. What people are paying for is the exclusivity and the ego-boost they get out of it. Doesn't make any sense to me, but what do I know?

15 years from now when it shows up at an auction with 800 miles on it, someone else will buy it for the same reason. Rinse, repeat. And the car will sadly never actually be driven and will exist only so someone can say they have it. Humans are so weird, lol.

Same same but different. I'm educating my my son don't buy new, buy x lease or demo at worst if he wants a current car. We look at a pristine 2022 M3 with all the checked additions for 110K with 30,000km and still has warranty. Down the dealer the other day the 2025 M3 drives away for 207K. Some dude be it in the private room or just down the local dealer is having the same rush of blood.

Many of these cars are bought for tax purposes, see little to no use, get serviced on point, and plumet in vale. Even the sacred M3 is not immune. Everyone to their own but fools or the cashed up by new in my view. However it doesn't matter generally as they don't give a toss because its just for tax, or its little more than "what else" kind of thing.

I tell the son he gets a great car for a reasonable price, and has 100k for other experiences in life. But being at the povo end and working on his career choices from school, we settle on some 2010 E9X M-sports, rinse and repeat. To be honest though, if we could by the 2020 equivalent I'm betting no leaps and bounds have been made.

[25 V8 IS]

People complaining about iDrive 7 when I have this in my Lexus:

[NSX2M4]

Originally Posted by Alpine Wait

Exactly, which is why the laziness is extraordinary.



People would be celebrating, if they indeed copied the '99 Z8 interior in 2025.

People wouldn't care.

[yousefnjr]

I think it was Adam Carolla who compared his rarely-driven car collection to a stamp collection, saying something along the lines of “does anybody give a stamp collector shit for not sending letters with theirs?”

[Race_Doc11]

Nope …couldn’t care less if it is Skytop or Skyfall

[LateParty2018X535d]

Originally Posted by ArviHujan

BMW please make this car with a v8 s68 or even straight 6 s58 scrap the xm

Ho lee ship that thing is 🔥

[A_]

Originally Posted by afadeev

Fair point - I only follow developments within the US market, because that is what I know.
Please feel free to collect and present the data on other markets that matter (China is the largest, but it's one big mushroom cloud for international auto makers).



OK, but why?
Aren't we discussing 8-series / Skytop here?

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You said that BMW is a mass vehicle producer, so let them focus on what they do best, which is more SUVs and more Touring models. I know people like these types of vehicles. I don't like them

[F80DK]

Originally Posted by ArviHujan

BMW please make this car with a v8 s68 or even straight 6 s58 scrap the xm

Nice!!! Well done. Come on now, BMW!

[Phillies8008]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

I think it was Adam Carolla who compared his rarely-driven car collection to a stamp collection, saying something along the lines of “does anybody give a stamp collector shit for not sending letters with theirs?”

Wow, what a terrible analogy. A stamp is a one-time use, disposable object, whereas a car's entire purpose is to be driven for years.

Also: a lot of stamp collectors collect postmarked stamps.

[MParallel]

Originally Posted by 21M2C-ya

I don’t see a resemblance.

That's the idea of a bodykit.

[21M2C-ya]

Originally Posted by MParallel

That's the idea of a bodykit.

I get that. It was more of trying to find similarities in the head lights nose.

[A_]

Originally Posted by MisanoblueZ4

So the skytop is a limited edition 8 series convertible with a body kit?

This is the M8 Competition Convertible with a different body.

[BobsM3Coupe]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Imagine paying all that money and having iDrive 7. :P

I would gladly take ID7 over anything later.

[IB M]

Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

I would gladly take ID7 over anything later.

Agree but what I really want is this

[JK479]

ID7- peak ID in a beautiful car. It’s perfect.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by NSX2M4

It would be nice, but there is nothing "luxury" about a manual transmission.

All wheel drive would have been awesome also