Track forum general chit chat.

jacksonE92 · 02-14-2020, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Grip Addict

Inquiry - so who sells the cheapest Stop Tech BBKs?

I am in a spot where my Carmax warranty runs out in exactly a year or XXXX months, so basically a year based on my driving mileage. If I keep it I need a brake job and am going to splurge for a BBK from StopTech, if I don't keep it, this post is pointless.

The way I see it is.

Spent $1000+ on maintenance good stuff or spend $2000+ on some StopTech BBK front and worry about another $2000+ rears later.

Any suggestions on where to buy?

I see so many sites where with a generic search it is like a $1000-1500 kit, but then when you select E9X M3 it becomes a $2000-2500 kit.

Buybrakes.com. Picked up my ST60 kit for 2400 shipped

Ximian · 02-14-2020, 10:41 PM

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Buybrakes.com. Picked up my ST60 kit for 2400 shipped

I got mine through Trinity for a little bit more. There are quite a few places selling them right now for just under 2500 but that number changes a fair bit the closer we get to spring.

StripclubDJ · 02-14-2020, 10:46 PM

Trinity

Bartledoo · 02-14-2020, 11:04 PM

Dang you missed that PFC Z54 steal on Bimmerworld for upper $2XXX last week...

M3 Number 86 · 02-15-2020, 02:21 AM

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i've been combing through parts diagrams for some time now. all i've done so far has been easily accessible nuts and bolts;
-strut brace hardware (two bolts, six nuts)
-license plate bolts
-intake plenum lid hardware
-wing hardware
-four nuts on rear exhaust hangers (i had extra nuts)

there is a body brace just behind the rear seats that has three pretty big bolts as well (i have a cusco brace back there). i have to find some time in the garage to take the bumpers off and do some poking around and measure some threads. my next titanium order will be pretty significant, so i have to time it right with mrs beef.

You're putting so much effort for minimal loss. I would do what you're doing if the car was already stripped like joes (trinity).

Just take out big things and lose more lol

Right, but I don't have the money for the big stuff right now so I'm just looking around. And I'm not ready to lose the speakers.

I wouldn't do speakers. It's ten pounds for under the seat but the audio quality just goes to shit lol.

I'm not sure where you're already at with the weight loss. Did you remove rear seats? I know your dogs ride with you so not sure if you're able to do that.

I think I'm back at a healthy 3500 minimum now lol. I should weigh again out of curiosity.

M3 Number 86 · 02-15-2020, 02:23 AM

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@StripclubDJ Fikse?

Looks great

Yass
Not mines
But testing offsets

This is +1 lmao

Sub2club lol

That's for Miatas bro.

Looks good though. Miss my mods

Bartledoo · 02-15-2020, 02:44 AM

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I wouldn't do speakers. It's ten pounds for under the seat but the audio quality just goes to shit lol.

I'm not sure where you're already at with the weight loss. Did you remove rear seats? I know your dogs ride with you so not sure if you're able to do that.

I think I'm back at a healthy 3500 minimum now lol. I should weigh again out of curiosity.

I can't bring myself to pull the speakers out. My DD Eurovan had the WORST stereo ever. I use a damn cassette adapter in it haha

admranger · 02-15-2020, 01:59 PM

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I can't bring myself to pull the speakers out. My DD Eurovan had the WORST stereo ever. I use a damn cassette adapter in it haha

That’s going to hurt the imaging and top end on “the wheels on the bus”.

Bartledoo · 02-15-2020, 02:21 PM

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That’s going to hurt the imaging and top end on “the wheels on the bus”.

Maybe I'll swap the M3 stereo into the van so I don't feel like I'm losing it.

roastbeef · 02-15-2020, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by roastbeef

i've been combing through parts diagrams for some time now. all i've done so far has been easily accessible nuts and bolts;
-strut brace hardware (two bolts, six nuts)
-license plate bolts
-intake plenum lid hardware
-wing hardware
-four nuts on rear exhaust hangers (i had extra nuts)

there is a body brace just behind the rear seats that has three pretty big bolts as well (i have a cusco brace back there). i have to find some time in the garage to take the bumpers off and do some poking around and measure some threads. my next titanium order will be pretty significant, so i have to time it right with mrs beef.

You're putting so much effort for minimal loss. I would do what you're doing if the car was already stripped like joes (trinity).

Just take out big things and lose more lol

Right, but I don't have the money for the big stuff right now so I'm just looking around. And I'm not ready to lose the speakers.

I wouldn't do speakers. It's ten pounds for under the seat but the audio quality just goes to shit lol.

I'm not sure where you're already at with the weight loss. Did you remove rear seats? I know your dogs ride with you so not sure if you're able to do that.

I think I'm back at a healthy 3500 minimum now lol. I should weigh again out of curiosity.

Yea rear seats are gone. Dogs sit on the foam back there.
Once I get a trailer it's pretty much getting stripped.

gmx · 02-15-2020, 05:52 PM

Might be worth building a rear seat delete panel.
Or buying one, but what's the fun in that.

roastbeef · 02-15-2020, 06:05 PM

It's not hurting anything just being open. Just doesn't look pretty.

Chris_PDX · 02-17-2020, 04:04 PM

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It's not hurting anything just being open. Just doesn't look pretty.

Race-cars don't need to look pretty anyway. My E46 is a fucking mess. #LooksLikeShit #ButIsFast.

kyippee · 02-17-2020, 10:33 PM

Ok guys, 18x10.5 ET22 (borrowed wheels) and 295/30/18 AR-1 are ready to roll now.. aligned the car with them on and it seems like they'll work.

Will find out for sure with 2 days at thunderhill the upcoming weekend!

fsmtnbiker · 02-17-2020, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

Ok guys, 18x10.5 ET22 (borrowed wheels) and 295/30/18 AR-1 are ready to roll now.. aligned the car with them on and it seems like they'll work.

Will find out for sure with 2 days at thunderhill the upcoming weekend!

Awesome! You’ll have a blast. I may or may not make it next weekend.

kyippee · 02-17-2020, 10:40 PM

Please do, come and spank me silly lol

Bartledoo · 02-17-2020, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

Ok guys, 18x10.5 ET22 (borrowed wheels) and 295/30/18 AR-1 are ready to roll now.. aligned the car with them on and it seems like they'll work.

Will find out for sure with 2 days at thunderhill the upcoming weekend!

What are the alignment specs?

kyippee · 02-17-2020, 11:14 PM

@Bartledoo aligned by a friend, who owns/runs a shop, and runs 1:37.8 at Laguna in his S2000, so I trusted him to set whatever. Just shared that I liked -3.5 front camber and -2.0 rear camber. He reduced my toe-in from previous alignments of just the tip of toe-in to right on 0" and kept a bit of rear toe-in.

This time around, my alignment wasn't as messed up as I expected! Ran the car through 2 days at Thunderhill East and 1 day at Laguna, with a bunch of curb usage

gmx · 02-18-2020, 12:37 AM

Hmm I have noticed some cars have different caster pretty much as a direct result of the top plate. Are yours JRZs?
I've noticed since going to a Bilstein top plate I've lost about 1deg where Mvez's thread has no actual caster just said "it's same as stock"
Vorshlags on middle setting (other settings are useless due to it's impact on camber) were still only around 6deg each total.
~Might be a 1M thing.~ Nope, stock they have 7deg.

CAD'ing up a new top plate to get to -4 without hella flushing the car and possibly adding caster holes. Inverted damper FTW.

Ximian · 02-18-2020, 01:10 PM

Got everything for my first (of the year) track weekend and a lapping day booked for June. Now I just need to find May and July events.

kyippee · 02-18-2020, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gmx

Hmm I have noticed some cars have different caster pretty much as a direct result of the top plate. Are yours JRZs?
I've noticed since going to a Bilstein top plate I've lost about 1deg where Mvez's thread has no actual caster just said "it's same as stock"
Vorshlags on middle setting (other settings are useless due to it's impact on camber) were still only around 6deg each total.
~Might be a 1M thing.~ Nope, stock they have 7deg.

CAD'ing up a new top plate to get to -4 without hella flushing the car and possibly adding caster holes. Inverted damper FTW.

JRZ RS One dampers with Ground Control race camber plates. I actually don't know much about caster... anything good or bad about how it's set up now?

Ximian · 02-18-2020, 03:50 PM

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JRZ RS One dampers with Ground Control race camber plates. I actually don't know much about caster... anything good or bad about how it's set up now?

Are you noticing anything bad?

One of the benefits positive caster is your wheels/steering wheel tend to center themselves. Great for easily unwinding the wheel out of a corner, but too much caster will make it more difficult to hold the wheel in place while cornering. There are a few other things affected but usually with too much positive or negative caster.

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