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No idea just find it interesting to happen with the same endlink. The Dinan ones are extremely stout (possibly not a good thing in this instance when combined with adjustable stiffer spring suspension?)
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08-19-2019, 05:20 PM | #10166 | |
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The guys at AR seem to think it's got something to do with the links / sway bar setup and not the damper quality itself. I mean, they run MCS on dozens of track and race cars and have only seen this failure once or twice before and it was also with Dinan bars and links. |
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08-19-2019, 05:51 PM | #10167 | |
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1 - sometimes the OE links have rubber bushings which reduces precision and speed of reaction. Monoball is generally desired on all suspension joints for a track / race car. 2 - The OE links may not be the correct length. Once you add sway bars, aftermarket suspension, maybe aftermarket suspension arms, etc. - things get more and more difficult to fit. I have had to go to adjustable end links to adjust my sway bars to clear suspension components, plus adjust the links to clear the sway bar itself and other suspension parts. Things get complicated the further you go with customizing your suspension. I have hours and hours into getting my suspension setup to not only perform, but also to eliminate rubbing and clearance issues with parts from various manufacturers. In the instance of my M3 with SPL arms and Öhlins TTX suspension, I had to switch from Eibach sway bars to Hotchkis to simply clear my rear struts. The Eibach's were just a little too narrow, therefore they would rub my shock. It's been very frustrating at times. The labor to drop my rear sub frame for the second time was not welcome.
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Would you be interested in selling the E46 rotors? What size are the fronts? The street car (with PFC DD rotors) is full weight, so I wonder if the cracks will be less severe on my track car which is ~400 lbs lighter. |
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*I haven't had the stomach to look at the pre-race bill It seems as though the car is just too fast and starts coming apart after 30-60 minutes. Some of the suspension was safety wired but now every single nut and bolt will be. |
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08-20-2019, 11:32 AM | #10172 | |
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Either that or it starting to come loose. Once they start to get loose at all, the forces skyrocket on that mounting tab and it's only a matter of time.
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08-20-2019, 12:10 PM | #10173 | |
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08-20-2019, 10:21 PM | #10175 | |
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08-21-2019, 11:52 AM | #10176 | |
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It's definitely not a plug and play install on the front. Especially when you swap suspension, sway bars, end links, and/or suspension arms. Techs can be rushed, lazy, or just make mistakes. Don't assume they did it right.
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08-22-2019, 11:23 PM | #10179 |
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Wtf, how?! I was planning on having my front wheel bearings and hub replaced preventively in the next couple of months, but I might have to expedite that job. No tools for it, so I’ll have to outsource
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08-23-2019, 09:31 AM | #10180 |
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Dang, how did you discover that happened?
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08-23-2019, 09:55 AM | #10181 |
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dammit! Dogbone has also broken hubs. Really scary stuff!
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08-23-2019, 09:58 AM | #10182 |
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Was it vibrating like crazy? I would imagine separation like that would throw it off balance. Any symptoms at all?
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Hello, fellow drivers! I’m new to this forum as I just purchased an e92 M3. Yesterday in fact. I’m not new to HPDEs. I’ve been attending 3-4 events a year for the past 6 years. I’ve been to most of the tracks in my area (i.e. Road America, BIR, Mid Ohio, MAM). Blackhawk is on my list but I haven’t made it yet. I’ve been running an e46 330 with suspension upgrades. I couldn’t be more excited about this step up in cars! My first DE in the new car will be Oktoberfast at Road America. I am planning to start with consumables that I settled on for the e46, but I want to draw on your collective wisdom to make sure I’m not missing anything/making obvious mistakes. There is only one other e92 in the group of track folks I typically run with, so I have limited friends with experience with this car to call. I’ll likely add camber plates over the winter/spring but I’m not planning any mods for now. This is just a list of consumables to maximize my fun for my first event in this car. Anyway, here’s what I’m thinking:
ARC-8s and Nitto NT-01s (a great economical combo for the e46, and it appears you guys/gals endorse them as well) I’m thinking 275/35 18s for the first set of tires Hawk DTC-70s Ate Typ 200 fluid Schroth Quick Fit Pro harness (I’m hoping my current set will bolt in without an issue) In terms of wheels, I have read the recommendation in this thread to go with 10.5 as opposed to 10. I also read the 10.5 is available with an offset of 22 which eliminates the need for spacers. However, I don’t see that wheel on the Apex website. I would prefer to avoid spacers if possible. Who wouldn’t? Anyone have suggestions for how to track down 10.5s with the offset of 22? Thanks in advance for your input! |
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When did this happen? Did he tap for m14 studs yet?
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he is running 14mm up front
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08-23-2019, 12:05 PM | #10186 | |
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Wow that crack in the hub is ugly. Damn good catch. Wonder if this is another nod if favor of the future classic upgrade kit.
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