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      02-09-2017, 09:47 PM   #45
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^ I would do the same if I were in your situation. Update to the newest 240/241 then do the Dinan tune.
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      02-09-2017, 09:57 PM   #46
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^ I would do the same if I were in your situation. Update to the newest 240/241 then do the Dinan tune.
Absolutely. Thanks for your review btw. I'm torn between the Dinan flash and test pipe/BPM tune combo. If I install the test pipes myself its ~1K price difference. Benefit/cost. I already have AA green filter and AA UD pulley (purchased but not installed). If I went with the Dinan tune I would probably hollow out the secondary cats (myself) which is supposedly a 5whp gain for free with no downsides.

Dinan tune/2nd cat hollowed = ~15whp for ~$380 after dealer fees.
Test pipe/tune = ~30-40whp for ~$1350 if I install TP myself.
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I completely concur with K3silk and Cenix's reviews. I like the tune so much that I'm actually going back to EAS in a few weeks to get test pipes and the upgraded Dinan tune for the test pipes.
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      02-10-2017, 12:28 PM   #48
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From a BMW dealership, I got quoted $399 out the door (online price for ECU + DCT tunes), no taxes / labor... Probably gonna run with that. Not sure if he quoted me wrong, but hopefully they honor it.
Get it in paper and pay now that way you just bring your car in...
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      02-10-2017, 12:32 PM   #49
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I've had the Dinan tune for a couple hundred miles now and here are my observations. I also took the opportunity to get the Dinan underdrive pulley installed at the same time, so my observations may be a little different in comparison with just a straight tune without any other mods. Car was previously just stock 241E ECU software and an M Performance Exhaust.

--Cold start was deleted
--Red line or fuel cut bumped up a bit, maybe 100-200 RPM
--Smoother accelerator transition (tip-in) & modulation
--Pulls more readily than stock to red line (especially 6k+ RPM's)
--Smoother and more linear power build-up throughout rev range
--Steady speed same gear freeway to full throttle pickup improved
--Have not tested the delimited top speed

I was advised prior to the tune that the red line would not be altered, but I do not believe that to be the case. I am not going to do any catless x-pipe setup so for me this was a great opportunity to get a good, mild, OEM+ style tune for a great price.
***--Cold start was deleted

Did you ask for the Cold start delete? I might have to take mine back to get this removed I think my still has that...
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      02-10-2017, 06:05 PM   #50
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***--Cold start was deleted

Did you ask for the Cold start delete? I might have to take mine back to get this removed I think my still has that...
I should clarify, the standard stock cold start I believe takes RPM's up to like 1500-2000 upon initial start. The Dinan tune will not take the RPM's that high. Maybe 1100 RPM's? So it is quieter but the engine "roughness" of the cold start is still present and runs its course until you feel the engine "smooth" out just like the stock cold start.

I don't think you can pick and choose parts of the tune. Does your car exhibit the same characteristics of my observations post earlier in this thread?

I hope that makes sense.
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      02-12-2017, 10:38 PM   #51
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Does Dinan offer a tune that clears check engine light for catless exhausts? Website doesn't list one, but I've read they previously offered one.
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      02-13-2017, 08:42 PM   #52
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Does Dinan offer a tune that clears check engine light for catless exhausts? Website doesn't list one, but I've read they previously offered one.
They previously had 1 but has been removed just like the modified file for the E6X M5/M6 "V10 engine"
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      02-13-2017, 08:44 PM   #53
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Does anyone install this in san diego, thanks
There are multiple Dinan dealers from SD - Murrieta
Use the Dinan dealer search and see who is close to your location.
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      02-14-2017, 08:23 AM   #54
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Anyone dyno before and after? I suspect messing with throttle sensitivity makes the car feel faster.
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      02-14-2017, 04:26 PM   #55
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Has anyone gone from the 240e stock software for DCT to the Dinan DCT? I am wondering if it makes any difference any more. in 2008/2009 the factory DCT software was horrible, but that changed within a year or two to a much better experience, including rev matching in D modes. My software version is probably from around 2013 when my warranty coverage ended, so I am wondering if I would be perfectly happy with 240e update and not get anything out of the Dinan transmission software.

Anyone?

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      02-14-2017, 05:42 PM   #56
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      02-14-2017, 07:58 PM   #57
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Then feed the appetite with a BPM and get the bells and whistles if there is such.
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Then feed the appetite with a BPM and get the bells and whistles if there is such.
Yea that's what I'm "afraid" of. I'm scheduled for the Dinan tune at a BMW dealership this Saturday. $580 out the door for ECU + DCT. Same setup at BPM will set me back at least $1200 after all possible incentives when they happen (it's $1500 retail now). So of course I'm not expecting the same performance, but it's worth a shot IMO.. I could always wait till after my warranty is up this summer for another tune as needed.

We'll see.
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      02-15-2017, 03:44 PM   #59
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Rumor is this ends today
I just got off the phone with Dinan. It is now through the 28th of Feb.
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      02-15-2017, 08:16 PM   #60
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Has anyone gone from the 240e stock software for DCT to the Dinan DCT? I am wondering if it makes any difference any more. in 2008/2009 the factory DCT software was horrible, but that changed within a year or two to a much better experience, including rev matching in D modes. My software version is probably from around 2013 when my warranty coverage ended, so I am wondering if I would be perfectly happy with 240e update and not get anything out of the Dinan transmission software.

Anyone?
Not me personally.
But from my research speaking to shops that sell tunes for ESS, Active, Dinan etc in the past... They all use the same european DCT software and make some changes to it.
I have had the ESS DCT software and switched to Dinan and I like the Dinan version better. I have friends that are both ESS and Active supercharged and ran all 3 DCT tunes to see whos ran different.
I know I'm not answering your specific question but from my understanding the performance DCT files are based off the BMW euro software
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      02-15-2017, 09:35 PM   #61
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Scheduled mine this Friday.
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      02-15-2017, 09:52 PM   #62
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I was on the fence about this, but I'm gonna make an appointment tomorrow to get it done 👍🏽
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      02-15-2017, 10:31 PM   #63
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Does anyone know if I have the euro DCT tune already if I will lose it if they write the Dinan tune?
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Does $240 of labor sound right for a BMW dealership to charge to upload this tune to my car?
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      02-16-2017, 06:05 PM   #65
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Does $240 of labor sound right for a BMW dealership to charge to upload this tune to my car?
Should be under $200. I'm paying $580 out the door, and that includes taxes on the software.
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      02-16-2017, 06:31 PM   #66
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Does $240 of labor sound right for a BMW dealership to charge to upload this tune to my car?
Dinan says the engine tune is 0.5 hours labor. Even if you are flashing the trans as well as the engine ecu, $240 seems like a ripoff to me. Is there an independent shop in your area that is a Dinan dealer?
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