ESS Supercharger - 5 Gallon Water/Ice Tank Install

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Check this out:

WOW ! "564 WHP"

Congrats

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

WOW ! "564 WHP"

Congrats

You know what's interesting is that I made 570 wheel on 2 gallons of e85 plus full tank 91 compared to this dyno session where I had 50/50 mix of MS109 and 91. I hear the best thing to do is run straight race gas (no crappy 91 at all) for best results but that's rather expensive.

Don't know if you have any e85 near you but even on a NA car a small e85 mix with pump should improve the octane and provide cooler burn (less knock) than pure pump gas.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

You know what's interesting is that I made 570 wheel on 2 gallons of e85 plus full tank 91 compared to this dyno session where I had 50/50 mix of MS109 and 91. I hear the best thing to do is run straight race gas (no crappy 91 at all) for best results but that's rather expensive.

Don't know if you have any e85 near you but even on a NA car a small e85 mix with pump should improve the octane and provide cooler burn (less knock) than pure pump gas.

Indeed I heard good things as well about a mix with e85...
Just went on Google for e85 and found a few in Brussels .
The problem is that I need to drive one hour from my home to Brussels .
But the day that I need to be in Brussels , I'll think about it .
In my area I run always with Shell V-Power (98 RON)

[NickS65]

Have you tried BP/Aral ultimate (98)? Considering multiple tests it is better than V-power.

Not sure if those are in Belgium or near you though.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by NickS65

Have you tried BP/Aral ultimate (98)? Considering multiple tests it is better than V-power.

Not sure if those are in Belgium or near you though.

Thought that Q8 toke over 200 petrol stations from Aral in the past here in Belgium .
Went also on Google for it ,and found almost nothing .
Thank you for the proposal

[Longboarder]

Nice if you have 98 RON available I hear that's equivalent to US 93-94 octane so you don't need to bother with e85 mixes.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by Sered

You mean like I did? Not huge, but holds almost a gallon. About 10x the capacity of the ESS-provided unit. Also has a grate that keeps ice from blocking the drain outlet into the pump.

Where did you source this?

[FazerBoy]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Nice if you have 98 RON available I hear that's equivalent to US 93-94 octane so you don't need to bother with e85 mixes.

I'm loving my recently installed ESS 625 charger (inspired by you)!

I find that the throttle has become a little more 'touchy' than before the charger was fitted so when I throttle off the car lurches a bit. I presume this is a characteristic of the supercharger.

Apart from your upgraded bearings, are your internal engine components completely stock? I know you run your car very hard - do you feel it will hold up in the longer term or have you thought about upgraded internals and lower compression for longer-term reliability rather than any more power (you probably have enough power!).

Jack

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by FazerBoy

I'm loving my recently installed ESS 625 charger (inspired by you)!

I find that the throttle has become a little more 'touchy' than before the charger was fitted so when I throttle off the car lurches a bit. I presume this is a characteristic of the supercharger.

Apart from your upgraded bearings, are your internal engine components completely stock? I know you run your car very hard - do you feel it will hold up in the longer term or have you thought about upgraded internals and lower compression for longer-term reliability rather than any more power (you probably have enough power!).

Jack

Glad I could be a bad influence.

Yes your throttle will be more touchy but you will get used to it. It's because the blower is always on and pushing boost into the motor even on partial throttle...so the car WANTS to go faster

Other than bearings my motor is stock. I would guess I have over 10,000 WOT pulls all the way to 8,600 rpm and virtually all have been supercharged. Car clicked over to 37,000 miles this weekend. It runs perfect.

I haven't thought about any further power increases because I have other much faster cars. Besides I personally think the chassis is maxxed out at roughly 600/400 HP/TQ. Anything more is just going to make it harder to get the power to the ground.

Have fun and stay safe.

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Glad I could be a bad influence.

Yes your throttle will be more touchy but you will get used to it. It's because the blower is always on and pushing boost into the motor even on partial throttle...so the car WANTS to go faster

Other than bearings my motor is stock. I would guess I have over 10,000 WOT pulls all the way to 8,600 rpm and virtually all have been supercharged. Car clicked over to 37,000 miles this weekend. It runs perfect.

I haven't thought about any further power increases because I have other much faster cars. Besides I personally think the chassis is maxxed out at roughly 600/400 HP/TQ. Anything more is just going to make it harder to get the power to the ground.

Have fun and stay safe.

Not with proper suspension geometry to allow the correct amount of squat with a big tyre

[whats77inaname]

Reviving this thread. Do you have a guesstimate of how much hose you used? I'm trying to determine the volume of water contained in this setup. I know the diameter was 3/4", but was that ID or OD (inner diameter or outer diameter)?

TIA

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

Reviving this thread. Do you have a guesstimate of how much hose you used? I'm trying to determine the volume of water contained in this setup. I know the diameter was 3/4", but was that ID or OD (inner diameter or outer diameter)?

TIA

What's up bro. Yeah hose is 3/4 ID. And MRF estimates that about 12-13 feet were used to plumb it from the trunk to intercooler and back.

[whats77inaname]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

What's up bro. Yeah hose is 3/4 ID. And MRF estimates that about 12-13 feet were used to plumb it from the trunk to intercooler and back.

That doesn't seem like much. Interesting. Working with a plastics company on a stealth trunk-mounted 3-4 gallon polyethylene tank to go with the 625++ kit I'm putting together

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

That doesn't seem like much. Interesting. Working with a plastics company on a stealth trunk-mounted 3-4 gallon polyethylene tank to go with the 625++ kit I'm putting together

Nice. To be located under the trunk liner with the tire inflation system removed?

[whats77inaname]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Nice. To be located under the trunk liner with the tire inflation system removed?

Negative. Drivers side of the car where the OEM amp is mounted. Working on the amp relocation portion of it. Situating it there will help counter the weight of the battery. And I don't think I'll have to make any permanent holes to run the hoses. Looking at it, there's a snap in vent on that side of the trunk that I can open up a bit, and is replaceable if I decide to remove it from the car. You won't be able to see the setup at all if the trunk is open. It'll look pretty much stock....or that's the plan, anyway

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

Negative. Drivers side of the car where the OEM amp is mounted. Working on the amp relocation portion of it. Situating it there will help counter the weight of the battery. And I don't think I'll have to make any permanent holes to run the hoses. Looking at it, there's a snap in vent on that side of the trunk that I can open up a bit, and is replaceable if I decide to remove it from the car. You won't be able to see the setup at all if the trunk is open. It'll look pretty much stock....or that's the plan, anyway

Very interesting. Would be awesome if you could pull something like that off.

Do you have a blower yet?

[whats77inaname]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Very interesting. Would be awesome if you could pull something like that off.

Already in the works...working on 2 different options atm. Trying to decide if I want to go with the tooling to get a mold made and recoup that cost in a group buy or use an off the shelf unit they have and have the fittings added. Former will yield a 4.5 gallon tank, the latter, 3-3.5 gallons. The company is local, which was surprising, but they are a major player in their space.

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Do you have a blower yet?

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

...to go with the 625++ kit I'm putting together

[Patrón]

the new design sounds really nice but with the market for meth tanks i'd buy a small three gallon and be done with it. i'm glad you are going with my advice as to avoiding aluminum. I can't wait for the pics if you go custom. We had thought of a flat tank to sit in well for the spare/emergency kit but I didn't want to spend the time and money fabing something for what I could buy less than $300.

[whats77inaname]

Originally Posted by Patrón

the new design sounds really nice but with the market for meth tanks i'd buy a small three gallon and be done with it. i'm glad you are going with my advice as to avoiding aluminum. I can't wait for the pics if you go custom. We had thought of a flat tank to sit in well for the spare/emergency kit but I didn't want to spend the time and money fabing something for what I could buy less than $300.

I appreciate the heads up you gave me about the aluminum, it is def. playing a big part in how I approach this. My main thing is to try and avoid creating more holes in the car, otherwise I was looking @ the spare tire compartment, too *lol*.

[Patrón]

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

I appreciate the heads up you gave me about the aluminum, it is def. playing a big part in how I approach this. My main thing is to try and avoid creating more holes in the car, otherwise I was looking @ the spare tire compartment, too *lol*.

a tank in the shape of the styrafoam insert would have been awesome but you would have to cut holes in there. if i had to do it over again, i would have just used a simple plastic tank in the two to three gallon range.

hope to see your install pics soon.

[ASBSECU E93]

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

That doesn't seem like much. Interesting. Working with a plastics company on a stealth trunk-mounted 3-4 gallon polyethylene tank to go with the 625++ kit I'm putting together

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[Properstyle]

Originally Posted by Patrón

the new design sounds really nice but with the market for meth tanks i'd buy a small three gallon and be done with it. i'm glad you are going with my advice as to avoiding aluminum. I can't wait for the pics if you go custom. We had thought of a flat tank to sit in well for the spare/emergency kit but I didn't want to spend the time and money fabing something for what I could buy less than $300.

what was the issue with just getting an aluminum take?