BMW S65 MT in a 1933 Ford Roadster

[Lucrecio84]

WOW UNREAL!! Almost started crying myself looking at the pictures! Glad you were ok and safe at least

Im sry for your lose, your build was awsome, but now that u plan a second build, im sure this one will be even better

[Nick ARH]

Originally Posted by JoeM3SSII

I saw your project thread just now for the first time, so i went from reading the whole first exciting post, and then fast forwarded to the catastrophic ending page in seconds. But when I was just reading the first page i was going to comment along the lines that safety for the driver of this would be nearly inexistant. No metal sheet chassis that can cave in and absorb impact shock energy to protect the human driver, instead all cage means broken neck even with dual strapping belt in any collision at even just average road speed. You'd have to strap your forehead to drive this. The seat you put in this is absolutely ridiculous. I mean even driving this with a 20 HP engine (twenty) is suicidal tendencies akeen to walking on a biplane wings without a parachute or doing parallel bars gymnastics on a crane 200 feet above ground. We know people have done that needed their head checked. Putting a s65 in it is not even funny impractical, it makes no sense, it's like combining the disproportioned thinking of a teenager with the ego a peacock.

Anyway.. who knows this event may have been a lucky turn of event for your physical person. I don't think this was an everest climb it was more like climbing the everest drunk and in summer clothes but a minor error crashed the whole project and saved you.

As far as what started the fire in the shop, do you have any clues ?

Joe, Why would you pour salt on the wound? I'm sorry but your post is completely uncalled for.

OP, please correct me if I'm wrong but I was told you're on Long Island like we are. If we can help you with materials for the exhaust, when the time comes please let me know. We have what you need in stock. Best of luck.

Nick

[TrevorM3]

woah, idk how op stayed so positive. i'd be broken. props to you though!


and joe, put a sock in it. please. op was doing something different, which is why you can't accept it. open your eyes.

[bradleyland]

Originally Posted by In33anity

Thanks you all so very much. Many of you have posted since the start and your posts have been quite motivational throughout and have really helped this week. I cannot express fully how much I have appreciated it. I also would like to give a huge shoutout to the guys at Active Autoworke, KMS Racing Engines, The Driveshaft Shop, VAC Motorsports, C&R Racing, Mara Plating, Ultimate Powdercoating, Mike and Tyler whose regular weekend presence really made this project and so many others involved from the beginning. I could not have gotten this far without the amazing support and highly recommend each and every one of them.

This was my mid-life climb to the peak of Everest. I got really close, but didn't accomplish what I set out to do. As I've been getting really close to the end of this build, I'd been refining plans for the next two builds and trying to decide which to take on next. Those plans have to wait as I still have to accomplish my roadster build and get to the Peak!!!

I've officially restarted and plans are in the works. I feel like I've just gotten through the warm-up and its time to take it to the next level. Basic theme and design will be the same. BMW S65 based drivetrain, Active SC, Cosworth and KMS on the electronics, etc. Where the build will diverge is I made a bunch of compromises using someone else's chassis to get the BMW in.
While the chassis will be fairly similar, I'll be scratch building the chassis this time taking into account all I've learned and wished I knew at the start--and what Dale has told me needs to change!

Where the build will really diverge is I'm going to scratch build an aluminum body for the build. While it will be similar to the Ford '33, it will take some design cues from the '28 and '29 and include some of my own design cues as well. I'm signed up for a four day class in metal shaping and I've been offered a bay in a well known coach works where I'll be able to build on weekends and ask lots of questions and learn a ton. This is really fantastic as times well with the timing of putting up a new garage. I'm super pumped and can't wait to get going for real again. All the same vendors are on board, starting to source parts, and busy drawing up the new body and chassis. Thanks again for your support and stay tuned.--I

Dude, you are amazing. I'd be devastated after that incident, but you're right back on the horse

[TripleC]

I was talking about my dream car being an S65 powered roadster the other day and I decided to google it...and it brought me here. I read through most of this epic thread only to stumble into the tragic ending.
I'm really sorry for your loss. Not that it eases the sting at all, but if you were ever considering building another, I humbly suggested you do! As someone who can say you were building my dream car, a dream car I will likely never have the means to build or buy, I'll be rooting you on should you build another!
Epic idea, epic execution on the build!
Happy Holidays!

[m3london]

I am really sorry for your project loss and I do wish you and your family best of luck with your next hot rod project and enjoy this Christmas as much as possible!
Thank you for you posts and updates on your great build, in a way the teething troubles you had with your project also allowed those of us who viewed your build to learn from it.

And I do apologize for some of the other forum members who are absolute douche bags such as joem3ssii. It's only a shame they weren't inside your garage when it caught on fire.

[Lucrecio84]

Originally Posted by JoeM3SSII

I saw your project thread just now for the first time, so i went from reading the whole first exciting post, and then fast forwarded to the catastrophic ending page in seconds. But when I was just reading the first page i was going to comment along the lines that safety for the driver of this would be nearly inexistant. No metal sheet chassis that can cave in and absorb impact shock energy to protect the human driver, instead all cage means broken neck even with dual strapping belt in any collision at even just average road speed. You'd have to strap your forehead to drive this. The seat you put in this is absolutely ridiculous. I mean even driving this with a 20 HP engine (twenty) is suicidal tendencies akeen to walking on a biplane wings without a parachute or doing parallel bars gymnastics on a crane 200 feet above ground. We know people have done that needed their head checked. Putting a s65 in it is not even funny impractical, it makes no sense, it's like combining the disproportioned thinking of a teenager with the ego a peacock.

Anyway.. who knows this event may have been a lucky turn of event for your physical person. I don't think this was an everest climb it was more like climbing the everest drunk and in summer clothes but a minor error crashed the whole project and saved you.

As far as what started the fire in the shop, do you have any clues ?

Hey why don't you ease up a little bit buddy, this comment is completely irrelevant at this point not to mention this was a hobby and more for show than to go racing the streets in. People like you need to learn how to live

[wheelpro]

cant wait to see record time for 1/4 mile

[In33anity]

Guys your support has been overwhelming and I really appreciate it. Its really helped!!!

So we pulled the chassis out of what was my garage and took it up to Corwith's who was slated to paint the body but instead stripped it down for me so I can use as a model for version 2.0.



While there is no trace of the grille, intercooler, radiator, pedals, supercharger, etc, etc, here is a bit of the carnage of what remains of the rims, brakes, differential and the rats nest that was the wiring harness:









So having rented a truck to pick up the FFR kit in September '14 in Massachusetts and brought it back over the ferry to Long Island, seemed somewhat ironic to load the chassis up in a truck and take it over the ferry back to Mass for the next part of this journey. Here it sits in a bay in Wray Schellin's shop where it will serve as the underpinnings of a wireform buck we will make for the new aluminum body Wray is going to teach me to build!!! After the body is done, will tackle the remake of the chassis. In the end the rebuild will be a total scratch build, but will be done in reverse of the first time around. First, the body, then the chassis and the drivetrain. If all goes according to plan, the metal work should require no filler.





The theme of v2.0 is a playful version along the following lines: I was building this chassis described in this thread and the to be installed body burned to the ground. Went looking around the old family barn to see what I could find and the hot rodder in me tripped on this old body that looked kind of cool—doors at the top that pre-date the gullwing and GT40 by 2 and 3 decades, a split window and roof line that hint at but pre-date the '63 vette by 3 decades. Decide to tweak it and use it on the chassis only to unveil the car and the purists go nuts as it turns out I was playing with a multi-million dollar artifact--what would be the previously unknown fourth Bugatti 57SC Atlantique body of '36-7 vintage. Here's a couple of versions of the 57SC as well as a mid-restoration shot of the Aerolith prototype. Will go hoodless and fenderless, but will build the coupe as it almost looks in the process of the Aerolith restoration pictured below--on a tweaked version of the chassis I Was building with the mods I've discussed and the BMW drivetrain. Here are a couple of shots of the 57SC and the Aerolith.










In the end, I was pretty pleased with where I got on the chassis and the drivetrain and will leverage that this time and really test my chops shaping some metal.

Happy New Year to you all!!! -- I

[ashtaron14]

Seriously! Your spirit is truly admirable!

[1MOREMOD]

Dude that car is sick put a hood and fenders on it that blue one! Engine room width looks limited?

[Richbot]

Ok now I'm worried this is just a slow, deep troll. You tripped over a BUGATTI in the family barn? I must be missing a detail here. Like "that's the fantasy story?" How about a story about how you burned your car to the ground because you didn't like how one of the turn signals came out

[In33anity]

Originally Posted by Richbot

Ok now I'm worried this is just a slow, deep troll. You tripped over a BUGATTI in the family barn? I must be missing a detail here. Like "that's the fantasy story?" How about a story about how you burned your car to the ground because you didn't like how one of the turn signals came out

"The theme of v2.0 is a playful version along the following lines:"--meaning hoping to achieve the look as if this happened, not that it did!

[In33anity]

Originally Posted by ashtaron14

Seriously! Your spirit is truly admirable!

Thanks you Ashtaron!!!

[In33anity]

Originally Posted by 1MOREMOD

Dude that car is sick put a hood and fenders on it that blue one! Engine room width looks limited?

You got me thinking!!!

[Helmsman]

This is simply amazing!!

[PandaM3]

http://jalopnik.com/this-saab-turbo-...hel-1753604979

this video on Jalopnik reminded me of a rat rod version of what you're building...

hope to see this on Jalopnik once it's resurrected and done

[In33anity]

Originally Posted by PandaM3

http://jalopnik.com/this-saab-turbo-...hel-1753604979

this video on Jalopnik reminded me of a rat rod version of what you're building...

hope to see this on Jalopnik once it's resurrected and done

Very Cool!!! Thanks!!!

[Staszek]

Just read this whole thing subscribing. Sorry about the first loss!

[In33anity]

Originally Posted by Staszek

Just read this whole thing subscribing. Sorry about the first loss!

Thanks Staszek!!!

[In33anity]

So the new build is underway! Found a full set of plans on the net. Blew them up to full size (7X30 feet) on vinyl. Starting to trace, then bend to put together the wire buck. If you grew up dreaming of building a full aluminum body from scratch, Wray Schelin’s shop is heaven. Building next to an old Deusenberg getting a new body with an XK120 right behind it. And the shop goes past midnight every day! I took Wray’s class a couple of weeks ago. Four jam-packed hands-on 16 hour days (from 9am till 1am)—exhausting, but incredible and highly recommended. Took this week off to get a real jump, 10 days at 16 hours a day I might need a vacation from my vacation!