Rub / No Rub Index

I'll add mine. I'll post twice for both sets of wheels (summer/winter)

Car: 2011 E92 ZCP
Wheels w/ Offsets: HRE P40 - (F) 20x9 +22, (R) 20x10 +22
Spacers: None
Tires / Miles: Michelin PS2 - (F) 255/30/20, (R) 285/30/20; New Tires
Suspension: B&G springs
EDC Setting: Normal/Sport
Alignment: Don't know. I should have asked the shop!
Fender Modifications: (F) None (R) None
Rubbing?: (F) None (R) None
ADDED 5mm spacers all around = slight rubbing on sharp low speed turns.

Car: 2011 E92 ZCP
Wheels w/ Offsets: Stock ZCP (winter setup)
Spacers: Macht Shnell 15mm (F), 12mm (R)
Tires / Miles: Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 - (F) 255/35/19, (R) 275/35/19; New Tires
Suspension: B&G springs
EDC Setting: Normal/Sport
Alignment: Don't know. I should have asked the shop!
Fender Modifications: (F) None (R) None
Rubbing?: (F) None (R) None

Car: 2010 E92

Wheels: OEM 220 - (F) 19x8.5 +29, (R) 19x9.5 +23

Spacers: (F) 15mm, (R) 12mm

New Offset: (F) +14, (R) 11mm

Tires / Miles: PS2's (F) 245/35/19, (R) 265/35/19

Suspension: Stock

EDC Settings: Normal/Sport

Alignment: Stock

Fender Modifications: (F) None. (R) None

Rubbing?: (F) Slight rubbing at full lock. (R) none.

Your car looks great. Nice set-up. I have been looking for these wheels for a set of p40 for my car, and the information you provided is very useful. BTW, is that the OEM carbon fiber trunk spoiler?

Great thread.

Daft wrote

Car: 2011 E92 ZCP
Wheels w/ Offsets: Stock ZCP (winter setup)
Spacers: Macht Shnell 15mm (F), 12mm (R)
Tires / Miles: Bridgestone Blizzak LM-60 - (F) 255/35/19, (R) 275/35/19; New Tires
Suspension: B&G springs
EDC Setting: Normal/Sport
Alignment: Don't know. I should have asked the shop!
Fender Modifications: (F) None (R) None
Rubbing?: (F) None (R) None

Daft wrote

I'll add mine. I'll post twice for both sets of wheels (summer/winter)

Car: 2011 E92 ZCP
Wheels w/ Offsets: HRE P40 - (F) 20x9 +22, (R) 20x10 +22
Spacers: None
Tires / Miles: Michelin PS2 - (F) 255/30/20, (R) 285/30/20; New Tires
Suspension: B&G springs
EDC Setting: Normal/Sport
Alignment: Don't know. I should have asked the shop!
Fender Modifications: (F) None (R) None
Rubbing?: (F) None (R) None
ADDED 5mm spacers all around = slight rubbing on sharp low speed turns.

DAFT: when you added the 5mm spacers, where do you rub? in the front or rear?

wow i cant believe all these 19" wheels are having rubbing issues....

PIMP E wrote

wow i cant believe all these 19" wheels are having rubbing issues....

Don't be surprised. It has little to do with the diameter of the wheels. Rubbing is due to the overall diameter of the tires, width, and offset. The car doesn't know whether you have 18's, 19's or 20's. 18's will rub with the aggressive offsets and tire widths/diameters that some of us are running.

shake&bake wrote

Your car looks great. Nice set-up. I have been looking for these wheels for a set of p40 for my car, and the information you provided is very useful. BTW, is that the OEM carbon fiber trunk spoiler?

Great thread.

Yup it's the BMW cf performance spoiler.

11' AW M3 wrote

DAFT: when you added the 5mm spacers, where do you rub? in the front or rear?

Just in the front. I'm surprised that just a tiny half cm can cause rubbing issues. I may remove the front spacers if it starts to bug me lots.

Car: 2008 E92 (my autocross setup)

Wheels: OEM 219 - (F) 18x8.5 +29, (R) 18x9.5 +23

Spacers: (F) 10mm, (R) 10mm

New Offset: (F) +19, (R) +13mm

Tires / Miles: Hankook RS3 (F) 265/35/18, (R) 285/35/18

Suspension: Dinan stage 1 w/ camber plates

Alignment: -2.0 deg camber all around

Fender Modifications: (F) None. (R) None

Rubbing?: (F) None so far (R) Outer tire edge on fender liner "nub"...none w/out spacers

Car: 2009 E90 M3

Wheels: OEM 220 - (F) 19x8.5 (R) 19x9.5

Spacers: (F) 15mm (R) 12mm

Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 - (F) 245/35/19 (R) 265/35/19

Suspension: OEM (NON-EDC)

Alignment: Factory Specifications

Fender Modifications: (F) None (R) None

Rubbing?: (F) None (R) None

Great thread. With some very interesting positive rubbing results. I would consider mine also quite surprising.

Car: 2011.5 E90

Wheels w/ Offsets: OEM 220

Spacers: MS (F) 15mm; (R) 12mm

Tires / Miles: Pirelli P Zero OEM sizes 265/35/19 245/35/19, brand new

Suspension: Dinan Stage 1

EDC Setting: all

Alignment: Dinan stage 1 specs

Fender Modifications: (F) None (R) None

Rubbing?: (F) No. (R) Yes, both sides, outside corner of tires rubbing the plastic nub on the wheel well liner mostly on bigger bumps at speeds over 40mph. Also over larger rounded speed bumps (not the small pointy ones). I have smoothed down the plastic significantly via my rubbing, and have also used a Dremel to smooth it further. I'm still rubbing, albeit not as much as immediately after the simultaneous suspension and spacer install.

great thread

So from my understanding, 295/30/19 AD08 in the rear will rub 100%, even if one max's out the rear camber

No one here has run a 265/30/19 AD08 in the front? From my understanding it shouldn't rub... (even if your fron camber is only -1.1, with pins intact)

Car:2011 e93

Wheels w/ Offsets: TE37SLs - (F) 19x9.5 +22, (R) 19x10.5 +22

Spacers: None

Tires / Miles: Pirelli P Zero Trafeo Tires 265/35/19 285/35/19; 50 Track miles

Suspension: Stock

EDC Setting: ALL

Alignment: (F) -1.1 camber (R) -1.7 camber

Fender Modifications: (F) None (R) None

Rubbing?: Front: 100%, on full lock, on half lock, over a pump... cracked my fender liner
Rear: yes, over a bump at 30mph, a dip at 30mph.
Unless going perfectly straight, it rubbed on my e93.
Strange as these cleared the E90M3 that I got it from (and they tracked too..)

Just got my tires changed this past weekend so adding my details. Unfortunately, I think I'm going to switch out my spacers b/c of the rubbing in the rear. May just switch the front to 12mm and get 5mm's for the rear.

Car: 2009 E92 M3
Wheels: OEM 220
Spacers: (F) 15mm (R) 12mm
Tires: Michelin Pilot Sport A/S+ (F) 255/35/19 (R) 275/35/19
Suspension: OEM
Alignment: Factory specs
Rubbing?: (F) Barely (R) 100% on full lock and sharp turns

Car: 2011 E90

Wheels: OEM 219 - (F) 18x9.5 +23, (R) 18X9.5 ET 23

Spacers: (F) None, (R) 10mm

New Offset: (F) 23 et , (R) 13 et

Tires / Miles: BF goodwrench (F) 255/35/18, (R) 275/35/18

Suspension: Eibach

EDC Settings: Normal/Sport

Alignment: Stock

Fender Modifications: (F) None. (R) None

Rubbing?: (F) none. (R) none.

going to have to give an update when my kw club sports come in ! !

also had another set up

Car: 2011

Wheels: Volk te37- (F) 19x9.5 +22, (R) 19x10.5 +20

Spacers: (F) none, (R) 10mm

New Offset: (F) et 22 , (R) et 10

Tires / Miles: PS2's (F) 255/35/19, (R) 275/35/19

Suspension: Eibach

EDC Settings: Normal/Sport

Alignment: Stock

Fender Modifications: (F) None. (R) None

Rubbing?: (F) Slight rubbing at full lock. (R) very slight rubbing over bumps and with passangers / without spacer no rubbing at all.

08 e90 m3, stock supsension

vmr v710 19x9.5 et 22 all 4 corners

advan ad08 265/30/19

spacers none front 12mm rear

rubbing none

Car: 2009 E92

Wheels: APEX ARC-8 (F) 18x10 +25, (R) 18x10 +25

Spacers: None

Tires / Miles: Dunlop Direzza Star Spec (F) 275/35-18, (R) 275/35-18

Suspension: Dinan Stage 1 plus Dinan Camber plates

EDC Settings: All

Alignment: (F) -2 degrees camber (R) -1.7 degrees

Fender Modifications: (F) None. (R) None

Rubbing?: (F) None. (R) none.


M3 with new wheels and tires by dcstep, on Flickr
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Car: 09 E92

Wheels w/ Offsets: HRE P40S - (F) 19x9.5 +23, (R) 19x10.5 +28

Spacers: None

Tires / Miles: Michelin Pilot Super Sports - (F) 265/30/19, (R) 295/30/19; New Tires

Suspension: Dinan Stage 1

EDC Setting: Comfort/Normal/Sport

Alignment: Will post soon (1.5 Camber Rear)

Fender Modifications: (F) None (R) None

Rubbing?: (F) None (R) Yes, only with 4 people in the car with EDC on Comfort/Normal

Notes: Originally, I had ET-23 all around. Rear PSS 295/30/19 would rub over every bump. PSS seems to run wider than stated.

I think I'm gonna sticky this. So many people post 'will I rub?' threads, this might help us build up a database.

persian54 wrote

great thread

So from my understanding, 295/30/19 AD08 in the rear will rub 100%, even if one max's out the rear camber

No one here has run a 265/30/19 AD08 in the front? From my understanding it shouldn't rub... (even if your fron camber is only -1.1, with pins intact)

Not true, mine don't rub.

2011 e92 M3
HRE P40 19X 9.5 +22 19X10.5 +22
265/30/19 295/30/19

H&R Springs
no other modifications, no rubbing at all