E92 M3 Factory Alignment Specifications and Ride Height

lucid wrote

Also, I've read mixed reports on pulling out the pin--if the pin even exists or not on the E9X M3. So, does it exist? And, is the -1.3 max negative camber people are reporting obtained with or without pulling out the pin?

When I had my car aligned at stock height, I asked to have the pin removed and when the service was done I had 1.3 degrees negative camber in front.

Radiation Joe wrote

When I had my car aligned at stock height, I asked to have the pin removed and when the service was done I had 1.3 degrees negative camber in front.

Thanks for the info. I guess that means you'll get the max 2 degrees with the Dinan camber plates only if you have the pin pulled.

I ran 2.25 negative on my e46 with no problems for several years. No abnormal wear. I ran -1.5 in the rear and still wore out the insides first. Got a little less than 10k miles out of the rears and around 20k out of the fronts. Pretty normal for these cars I think. This is why I'm running 265s on four corners now. So I can rotate the tires.

After 2000+ posts, I finally made a sticky-worthy thread

PencilGeek wrote

Now you're banned for being cocky about it.

rzm3 wrote

After 2000+ posts, I finally made a sticky-worthy thread

I made over 5000 posts, but still do not have a sticky-worthy thread.

Anyway, good idea to stick this thread.

I'll post more info on the Dinan springs + camber plates after I get them installed. Currently scheduled for 4/14.

lucid wrote

I made over 5000 posts, but still do not have a sticky-worthy thread.

Anyway, good idea to stick this thread.

I'll post more info on the Dinan springs + camber plates after I get them installed. Currently scheduled for 4/14.

Any info on your Dinan Springs and camber plates? I'm getting my camber plates re-installed next week after they went on the first time but not set up properly and made the car really loose.
The dealer wants to know what set up I want and I have no idea what to tell them. Can I get some help? What camber are you running up front and rear for track and street? Does anything else change (toe, etc) or does everything else remain stock?

Thanks so much!

is that at 3200 mile ? my dealer didnt mention this service at all . i will check the manual

Here is a handy conversion chart for converting minutes to inches for those that like to check alignments at home. It looks like the 10' toe that BMW lists is approx 1/16" toe in.

Can we get members to post their alignment specs here as well, especially those that are lowered or with more aggressive non factory specs.
Thanks.

here are my alignment specs, before is after eibach pro-kit install, after is after alignment:

here are my alignment specs:

BEFORE:
LF -1.2deg camber, 0.0mm toe, 6.9deg caster
RF -1.7deg camber, 1.9mm toe, 6.5deg caster
LR -1.7deg camber, 4.3mm toe
RR -2.0deg camber, 4.3mm toe

AFTER:
LF -1.2deg camber, 0.6mm toe, 6.9deg caster
RF -1.7deg camber, 1.2mm toe, 6.5deg caster
LR -1.7deg camber, 1.2mm toe
RR -1.9deg camber, 1.2mm toe

Do these looks normal to those who know something about this?

thx

Sorry I am new to this - and have 2 questions:

1- wouldn't you want to have the same amount of everything on both sides? or because of the driver's weight you would need less neg camber up front or something?

2- what are these pins everyone is referring to?

GewoW wrote

Sorry I am new to this - and have 2 questions:

1- wouldn't you want to have the same amount of everything on both sides? or because of the driver's weight you would need less neg camber up front or something?

2- what are these pins everyone is referring to?

There are specified tolerances for each setting, so they don't have to match exactly to be good. Also I'm assuming that the settings differ from L/R to take into account driver weight. For example, camber on the left side will increase with someone in the drivers seat. I think a good alignment shop will take this into account.

Can anyone post the ZCP alignment specs?

Great thread! I'd like to see more alignment specs before/after lowering. What is the OEM M3 camber adjustment range? I want to make sure that I can stay within spec with H&R or GC springs.

to echo prior questions:

1) what are those pins everyone is talking about

2) what is the factory comp package suspension/camber settings, and what is the max you can get of the factory suspension... and by factory I am talking about the competition package -10mm suspension

Thanks !

It's not that I don't trust rzm3, it's that I don't trust BMW : ) Has anyone confirmed these specs again? Reason I ask is that the computer printout the dealer handed me showed a totally different range for the M3.

The TIS scan in the first post shows the following:

F Camber 0.9-1.3
R Camber 1.33-1.57

The dealer printout shows:

F Camber -0.8 to -1.5
R Camber -1.6 to -2.0

I think the rear camber on the above TIS is incorrect. Can anyone confirm? I think I just screwed up my alignment as a result.

TIA!

nice

Singletrack wrote

It's not that I don't trust rzm3, it's that I don't trust BMW : ) Has anyone confirmed these specs again? Reason I ask is that the computer printout the dealer handed me showed a totally different range for the M3.

The TIS scan in the first post shows the following:

F Camber 0.9-1.3
R Camber 1.33-1.57

The dealer printout shows:

F Camber -0.8 to -1.5
R Camber -1.6 to -2.0

I think the rear camber on the above TIS is incorrect. Can anyone confirm? I think I just screwed up my alignment as a result.

TIA!

check your units the printout here is in degrees and minutes.

GewoW wrote

Sorry I am new to this - and have 2 questions:

1- wouldn't you want to have the same amount of everything on both sides? or because of the driver's weight you would need less neg camber up front or something?

2- what are these pins everyone is referring to?

BMW recommends to load up the chassis with a specific amount of weight in specified spots with a full tank of fuel before aligned.

68kg on each of the front seats, 20kg luggage in trunk and 40kg of weight on the center of the rear seats.

If aligning with ONLY a driver in the car, then the alignment settings will not be the same without a driver inside the car when static. Alignments should be performed with a decent amount of fuel inside the car.