Why is the Japanese M3 Lower than the US M3?

rzm3 · 06-05-2009, 08:38 PM

there are plenty of cars that are lower than the M3... even the 335i coupe

anyway yes e90m3japan please provide us with the VIN numbers.

KonigsTiger · 06-05-2009, 08:45 PM

Wow!!

aajami · 06-10-2009, 06:27 PM

Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get a Japanese VIN number.

iveman89 · 06-12-2009, 12:00 AM

any news?!?!

e90m3japan · 06-12-2009, 12:12 AM

sorry guys please bear with me!! I'll Promise and post the vin# on July 9th!! Because I don't have the info with me(as for now I'm in the USA), I'll be in Japan on the 8th where my m3 is, so I'll post it for sure on the 9th!!
Thanx

aajami · 06-16-2009, 01:04 PM

Thanks, e90m3japan. Assuming that the suspension for the E90 is different than the E92, is there any chance that you'll also be able to grab an E92 VIN once you get back to Japan?

e90m3japan · 06-16-2009, 10:37 PM

Sure, I will be able to grab the VINs from the e92 as well!!
I know I don't think it is appropriate, but anybody see this please give me advice at my thread on wheels. thank you

aajami · 06-18-2009, 04:29 PM

Just curious, but what do you do for a living in Japan? I go there a couple of times a year, but mostly for fun.

e90m3japan · 07-09-2009, 06:46 PM

hey guys!! I'm back in Japan now !!
okay I looked for VIN# but I don't think there is one for Japanese model. let me know where to look and I'll look for and post it if I find it!!
Let me know guys!

Poppin Fresh · 07-09-2009, 08:45 PM

There should be a VIN on your windshield recessed on the inside but it's clearly visible on the drivers side*

* I don't remember which side. I'm too lazy to look at my car right now.

rzm3 · 07-09-2009, 09:20 PM

there is also one on your driver's side door frame... on the sticker

turb934 · 07-10-2009, 01:53 AM

The M3 special edition is going to be 10mm lower so I am assuming it will use the Japanese springs.

x838nwy · 07-10-2009, 04:13 AM

Seems crazy to have different suspension set-up for Japan only. I don't know, but is Japan really that big a market for M3's?

Would make sense to me if it's a RHD thing and the steering rack is different and so on and so forth (may be). But that should mean that the UK, Australia, New Zealand get the same set up as Japan. Can anyone verify this? I don't have an M3 yet

but mine will be a UK-spec car but I don't think I'll place my order till the LCI next year (ARRRRGH!!!!) so I can't confirm anything right now. Can anyone in the UK (or anyone with a RHD M3) help?

I know the Japanese M3 in the (lovely) photo with Mt.Fuji is LHD, but to me the camber looks funny so I'm not sure how much lower it really is or was in stock form...

Anyway, it just doesn't make much sense to me, that's all. I mean, you can have smooth roads and all that, but is it really that significant that makes BMW decide to lower the car just for one market?

May be it's something to do with the local laws and regulations? People have some funny laws - iirc in Japan you're not allowed to lower the car more than an inch form stock or something. May be there are other regulations that we don't know about?

Anyway, credits to the OP for finding this and respect to BMW if they actually take local conditions into considerations when designing cars for each market.

J08M3 · 07-10-2009, 06:18 AM

Maybe it's cause Japanese people are shorter??

e46e92love · 07-10-2009, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e90m3japan

hey guys let me know if guys want to know japanese vin#
I have M3 in Japan. I will be able to give vin to you guys after 9th of july!
right now I am in the US and can't tell you guys off my head.
By the way, I am also might be able to answer things for you guys on M3 Stuff in Japan.

I'm the guy who asked for the VIN#, you get it to me and I will more information then any of you guys could ever want on this subject. Please, PM if you do indeed have a VIN# for a Japanese Spec e92 //M3.

Cheers,
e46e92

aajami · 07-10-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e46e92love

I'm the guy who asked for the VIN#, you get it to me and I will more information then any of you guys could ever want on this subject. Please, PM if you do indeed have a VIN# for a Japanese Spec e92 //M3.

Cheers,
e46e92

Keep us informed please!

e46e92love · 07-11-2009, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aajami

Keep us informed please!

As soon as e90m3japan gets me the info I will get you guys the info. this is the second member in this thread to claim to be able to get a hold of a VIN for a Japan spec //M who has gone dark/silent or couldn't get the info. If and when I get the info I will need less than a working day to get all info on part#s, prices, and how quickly I could get it out to people if they wanted the stuff if you need help.

Cheers,
e46e92

JuniorDee · 07-14-2009, 10:17 AM

ok I am eagerly awaiting the VIN.

Oh if you open the hood of your car, its stamped on the chassis on the top of the wheel well.

Its also on a sticker behind the license plate on the trunk.

SOARISTO · 07-15-2009, 10:55 PM

Hello, M3 Fighter Pilots!!

First of all, I apologize for checking this thread became too late and replying your questions and PMs became toooo late.
(I was mainly checking "DIY Guides/Discussions".)

This is my M3 Coupe's VIN code.

The perfect photo including last 7 digits, I will send PM to aajami. He send me a notice.

I deeply admire your studies about the difference between Euro, US and JPN suspension system.

I wish that my information is useful for enjoying DIY to you.

Thanks.

doba_s · 07-16-2009, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOARISTO

Hello, M3 Fighter Pilots!!

First of all, I apologize for checking this thread became too late and replying your questions and PMs became toooo late.
(I was mainly checking "DIY Guides/Discussions".)

This is my M3 Coupe's VIN code.

The perfect photo including last 7 digits, I will send PM to aajami. He send me notice.

I deeply admire your studies about the difference between Euro, US and JPN suspension system.

I wish that my information is useful for enjoying DIY to you.

Thanks.

It would be great if you can get a part number from your local dealer ...

aajami · 07-16-2009, 01:08 PM

I have the last seven of SOARISTO's VIN and have PM'ed it to e46e92love.

Thanks again, SOARISTO.

meevo · 07-16-2009, 01:17 PM

Didn't read the whole thread, but I'm assuming it would have something to do with the Japans roads? They are as smooth as glass.. =[ Chicago's roads are not.

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aajami Brigadier General 432 Rep 4,567 Posts Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA iTrader: (4)	Bumping this thread in the hopes that we can get a Japanese VIN number. __________________ '09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather \| ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL \| link 1 / link 2 Mods: M Performance exhaust \| ZCP retrofit \| Euro airbox \| GTS DCT flash \| JPN 240 ECU flash \| Euro LCI taillights \| CRT lip \| OEM alarm retrofit \| Space Gray bumper plugs \| BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
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06-12-2009, 12:12 AM	#71
e90m3japan Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 226 Posts Drives: e90 m3 melbourne Red Metallic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Yokohama,Japan and El Paso,Texas iTrader: (2)	sorry guys please bear with me!! I'll Promise and post the vin# on July 9th!! Because I don't have the info with me(as for now I'm in the USA), I'll be in Japan on the 8th where my m3 is, so I'll post it for sure on the 9th!! Thanx __________________ e90 m3 melbourne red metallic, "One and Only" e90 sedan Amuse Ericsson full exhaust(new model)with custom spec, Afe intake with stock box,piano black trim, blackline tail, HRE P40 9x19,10.5x19
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aajami Brigadier General 432 Rep 4,567 Posts Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA iTrader: (4)	Thanks, e90m3japan. Assuming that the suspension for the E90 is different than the E92, is there any chance that you'll also be able to grab an E92 VIN once you get back to Japan? __________________ '09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather \| ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL \| link 1 / link 2 Mods: M Performance exhaust \| ZCP retrofit \| Euro airbox \| GTS DCT flash \| JPN 240 ECU flash \| Euro LCI taillights \| CRT lip \| OEM alarm retrofit \| Space Gray bumper plugs \| BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
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e90m3japan Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 226 Posts Drives: e90 m3 melbourne Red Metallic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Yokohama,Japan and El Paso,Texas iTrader: (2)	Sure, I will be able to grab the VINs from the e92 as well!! I know I don't think it is appropriate, but anybody see this please give me advice at my thread on wheels. thank you __________________ e90 m3 melbourne red metallic, "One and Only" e90 sedan Amuse Ericsson full exhaust(new model)with custom spec, Afe intake with stock box,piano black trim, blackline tail, HRE P40 9x19,10.5x19
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06-18-2009, 04:29 PM	#74
aajami Brigadier General 432 Rep 4,567 Posts Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA iTrader: (4)	Just curious, but what do you do for a living in Japan? I go there a couple of times a year, but mostly for fun. __________________ '09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather \| ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL \| link 1 / link 2 Mods: M Performance exhaust \| ZCP retrofit \| Euro airbox \| GTS DCT flash \| JPN 240 ECU flash \| Euro LCI taillights \| CRT lip \| OEM alarm retrofit \| Space Gray bumper plugs \| BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
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e90m3japan Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 226 Posts Drives: e90 m3 melbourne Red Metallic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Yokohama,Japan and El Paso,Texas iTrader: (2)	hey guys!! I'm back in Japan now !! okay I looked for VIN# but I don't think there is one for Japanese model. let me know where to look and I'll look for and post it if I find it!! Let me know guys! __________________ e90 m3 melbourne red metallic, "One and Only" e90 sedan Amuse Ericsson full exhaust(new model)with custom spec, Afe intake with stock box,piano black trim, blackline tail, HRE P40 9x19,10.5x19
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07-09-2009, 08:45 PM	#76
Poppin Fresh Colonel 86 Rep 2,148 Posts Drives: With a sunroof and front plate Join Date: May 2009 Location: Bergen County NJ iTrader: (0)	There should be a VIN on your windshield recessed on the inside but it's clearly visible on the drivers side* * I don't remember which side. I'm too lazy to look at my car right now.
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07-09-2009, 09:20 PM	#77
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07-10-2009, 01:53 AM	#78
turb934 First Lieutenant 23 Rep 325 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada iTrader: (0)	The M3 special edition is going to be 10mm lower so I am assuming it will use the Japanese springs. __________________ 08 E92 Interlagos blue, AFE filter, AA X-Pipe & HFC, AA pulley, AA software V1.5, Eisenmann race, M Performance Steering Wheel II, Pagid RS19's, Stoptech SS brake hoses, RAC RG63 Silver, Motul 600, E93 front & rear stablizer bars, M3 Competition Package Carbon Fiber Rear Lip Spoiler, Vorsteiner GTS3 carbon fiber front bumper & vented hood.
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07-10-2009, 04:13 AM	#79
x838nwy Private First Class 3 Rep 178 Posts Drives: nothing right now... Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Thailand iTrader: (0)	Seems crazy to have different suspension set-up for Japan only. I don't know, but is Japan really that big a market for M3's? Would make sense to me if it's a RHD thing and the steering rack is different and so on and so forth (may be). But that should mean that the UK, Australia, New Zealand get the same set up as Japan. Can anyone verify this? I don't have an M3 yet but mine will be a UK-spec car but I don't think I'll place my order till the LCI next year (ARRRRGH!!!!) so I can't confirm anything right now. Can anyone in the UK (or anyone with a RHD M3) help? I know the Japanese M3 in the (lovely) photo with Mt.Fuji is LHD, but to me the camber looks funny so I'm not sure how much lower it really is or was in stock form... Anyway, it just doesn't make much sense to me, that's all. I mean, you can have smooth roads and all that, but is it really that significant that makes BMW decide to lower the car just for one market? May be it's something to do with the local laws and regulations? People have some funny laws - iirc in Japan you're not allowed to lower the car more than an inch form stock or something. May be there are other regulations that we don't know about? Anyway, credits to the OP for finding this and respect to BMW if they actually take local conditions into considerations when designing cars for each market.
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07-10-2009, 06:18 AM	#80
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07-14-2009, 10:17 AM	#84
JuniorDee Captain 74 Rep 610 Posts Drives: the speed limit Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: the land of brat and brotchen iTrader: (1)	ok I am eagerly awaiting the VIN. Oh if you open the hood of your car, its stamped on the chassis on the top of the wheel well. Its also on a sticker behind the license plate on the trunk. __________________ EDC.....viagra for your car
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07-15-2009, 10:55 PM	#85
SOARISTO Enlisted Member 29 Rep 35 Posts Drives: New M3 Coupe M-DCT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Technopolis, Tokyo iTrader: (0)	From Far East Hello, M3 Fighter Pilots!! First of all, I apologize for checking this thread became too late and replying your questions and PMs became toooo late. (I was mainly checking "DIY Guides/Discussions".) This is my M3 Coupe's VIN code. The perfect photo including last 7 digits, I will send PM to aajami. He send me a notice. I deeply admire your studies about the difference between Euro, US and JPN suspension system. I wish that my information is useful for enjoying DIY to you. Thanks. __________________ Blog: http://www.soaristo.jpn.org/blog/ HomePage: http://www.soaristo.jpn.org/ Last edited by SOARISTO; 07-24-2009 at 04:06 AM..
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07-16-2009, 01:08 PM	#87
aajami Brigadier General 432 Rep 4,567 Posts Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA iTrader: (4)	I have the last seven of SOARISTO's VIN and have PM'ed it to e46e92love. Thanks again, SOARISTO. __________________ '09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather \| ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL \| link 1 / link 2 Mods: M Performance exhaust \| ZCP retrofit \| Euro airbox \| GTS DCT flash \| JPN 240 ECU flash \| Euro LCI taillights \| CRT lip \| OEM alarm retrofit \| Space Gray bumper plugs \| BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
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07-16-2009, 01:17 PM	#88
meevo Private First Class 11 Rep 107 Posts Drives: Cars Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Illinois iTrader: (0)	Didn't read the whole thread, but I'm assuming it would have something to do with the Japans roads? They are as smooth as glass.. =[ Chicago's roads are not.
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