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07-18-2011, 11:35 AM | #23 |
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I think the current gen. M3 has had lackluster sales but the E46 M3 was in the 7000-8000 per year range in the US.
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i thought the sales numbers were over 5000 with sedan being about 1000 and vert 1000 and coupe 3000?
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No offense to anyone who owns or plans on purchasing this car...but the GTR does nothing for me from a design standpoint. It looks like a Mitsubishi Eclipse.
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The e46 M3 was a lot less expensive.
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Well the 1M will have to carry the torch for BMW...
The GTR is a total monster for sure!
So we have to go all the way down to # 62 before we see a BMW? 1:15.1 - Ariel Atom V8 500 1:16.2 - McLaren MP4-12C 1:16.8 - Bugatti Veyron Super Sport 1:17.1 - Gumpert Apollo S 1:17.3 - Ascari A10 1:17.6 - Koenigsegg CCX (with Top Gear Wing) 1:17.7 - Noble M600 (cold) 1:17.8 - Nissan GT-R (2012) 1:17.8 - Pagani Zonda Roadster F 1:17.9 - Caterham Seven Superlight R500 (cold) 1:18.3 - Bugatti Veyron 16.4 1:18.4 - Pagani Zonda F 1:18.9 - Maserati MC12 1:19.0 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce 1:19.0 - Enzo Ferrari 1:19.1 - Ferrari 458 Italia 1:19.5 - Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 1:19.5 - Porsche 997 GT2 1:19.5 - Ariel Atom 2 300 1:19.7 - Nissan GT-R 1:19.7 - Ferrari 430 Scuderia 1:19.8 - Ferrari 599 GTO 1:19.8 - Lamborghini Murciélago LP640 1:19.8 - Porsche Carrera GT 1:20.4 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (damp) 1:20.4 - Koenigsegg CCX (without Top Gear Wing)[2] 1:20.7 - Ascari KZ1 (damp) 1:20.9 - Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 1:21.2 - Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 1:21.6 - Audi R8 V10 (damp) 1:21.9 - Ford GT 1:22.2 - Porsche 997 Turbo Cabriolet 1:22.3 - Audi R8 V10 Spyder 1:22.3 - Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale 1:22.3 - Porsche 911 GT3 RS (996 mk.II) 1:22.4 - Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 1:22.5 - Noble M15 1:22.8 - Lexus LFA (wet)[3] 1:22.9 - Ferrari F430 F1 1:22.9 - Porsche 911 Sport Classic 1:23.0 - Mercedes-Benz SL65 AMG Black Series 1:23.1 - KTM X-Bow (Not Shown on TV)[4] 1:23.1 - Porsche 997 GT3 1:23.2 - Ferrari F430 Spider F1 1:23.3 - Jaguar XKR-S 1:23.7 - Lamborghini Murciélago (retested) 1:23.8 - Pagani Zonda C12 S 7.3 (partly damp) 1:23.9 - Aston Martin DBS 1:23.9 - Koenigsegg CC8S 1:24.0 - Ariel Atom 1 220 1:24.2 - Veritas RS III 1:24.3 - Prodrive P2 (concept) 1:24.4 - Audi R8 (damp) 1:24.4 - Aston Martin Virage 1:24.6 - TVR Sagaris 1:24.8 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-400 1:24.8 - TVR Tuscan Mk.II 1:24.9 - Bentley Continental Supersports 1:24.9 - Porsche Boxster Spyder 1:24.9 - Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG 1:25.0 - Noble M12 GTO-3R 1:25.0 - BMW 1 Series M Coupe* (damp)
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damn time for an ariel atom
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Throw in a few bolt ons and whoa. What an amazing machine.
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Less expensive than what? A GTR for sure but its pretty close to the current gen M3 if you throw in inflation. I remember dropping over $60k in 2004 for an M3.
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I may be wrong. It's something I read awhile back. Please feel free to correct me.
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I truly, really, honestly, don't care at all about the GT-R. I drove my friend's and it did absolutely nothing for me. I'm much happier with my M3, no matter how slow it is by comparison. To me, stepping "up" doesn't involve running GT-R lap times, but rather enjoying a better driving experience. A 997.2S is a step up from the GT-R in my worldview. I imagine a GT3 would be 2-3 steps up.
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To me the GTR is in no mans land in terms of what you would use it for. On the street or as a weekend car its rough riding and not as engaging as an M3, Porsche, or any other drivers car, so I wouldn't really want one for that. Its also not that big so it would be tough to use it as a DD. As a track car it would be fast, but I'm not a big fan of taking stock cars right onto the track because 1. It would get beat to hell 2. I would void my warranty. I might get a slightly faster lap time with a GTR, but I mainly go to the track for the thrill of driving fast and not to get the fastest lap I can possible get. Its a great car and in a few years when I can get a used one with low miles and an extended warranty for 60-70k I would consider it just to be in a car that is so crazily fast. |
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07-28-2011, 06:34 PM | #44 |
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I read an article recently that there were ~17000 M cars sold, 10000 were M3s in one year. 10x is pretty close to correct.
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