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04-13-2011, 09:01 PM | #1 | |
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Insideline obtained a production Lexus LFA (#032) for 4 days and did lots of tests and a head to head grudge match with the Porsche 911 GT2 RS.
For maximum pleasure, watch the videos with your earphones on. You will hear many sound frequencies from the LFA engine that are not audible from speakers. It is a completely different experience than listening through speakers. Lexus LFA makes 515 wheel HP SAE (A monster in Carrera GT territory. Production LFA underrated according to MD automotive): Quote:
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Lexus LFA mountain runs:
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Surface conditions were less than ideal compared to prepp'ed tracks (both cars would be much quicker on prep'ed tracks): Quote:
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04-13-2011, 11:11 PM | #7 |
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LF-A is a real driver's car...Its a bit pricey for a Lexus...but if it had no badge...it would def be and is considered one of the best driver's cars with an autbox/automanual.
THe porsche is ugly and turbocharged compared to it; since when is a proper driver's car turbocharged??? hahaha. LF-A FTW. If only it weren't a Lexus and were a Porsche/Ferrari and looked a little more distinctive ie. 458 Italia style. Technically brilliant. |
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Watch the videos with your earphones on. You will hear many sound frequencies from the LFA engine that are not audible from speakers. It is a completely different experience than listening through speakers.
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So is this like the fifth LF-A thread? Awesome car anyways. Been following Insideline's journal the whole time.
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Starting to like the LFA. But I still think it's overpriced , but that's my opinion. I've seen OP talking about the LFA all over this board , and he's pretty biased upwards it.
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04-14-2011, 08:41 AM | #16 |
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That was a pre-production prototype. It has no relevance here
This is an actual production model (#032) that dyno'ed at 515 wheel HP at present. The pre-production prototype is completely irrelevant since it was unfinished and was developed back in 2009. The highest the Ferrari V8 SAE dyno'ing is 455 wheel HP of all the dynos on the net. LFA's 75.2 mph slalom speed is one of the highest slalom speeds they ever recorded.
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In any event, I like the comparo.. All Porshe's look the same to me and it is hard to tell them apart lol. I like that black LFA. $375k asking price is too rich for my blood unfortunately. I'll take a poor man mobile Vette ZR1 and blow the door off both cars. Where is the "but, but it is a special car made of exotic materials with limited production" arguments from the resident trolls?
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04-14-2011, 10:49 AM | #18 | |
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ZR1 did not beat the LFA either. It was slower around the track around Fuji speedway track. (upcoming BestMotoring episode).
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1 - You are correct on 129 mph for the Turbo S. The caveat is well-prepared drag strip.
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezfl...1165617301.pdf 2 - The track conditions were less than ideal, which is why the numbers are less than expected. Speculating numbers on ideal track conditions is completely futile. 3 - On exactly the same track where GT2 RS and LFA were tested, Edmunds also got 72 mph for the standard GT3 slalom, which is 3 mph slower than LFA's slalom speed on exactly the same track. Given the GT2 RS had the advantage of R compound tires for GT2 RS and being the Halo Porsche it MUST be putting down better slalom numbers than the GT3. Again, goes back to how the track is prepared resulting in variations in the numbers cars put down on different tracks.
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The GT3 slalom speed you posted was from a different track, let alone a different day.
At the end of the day, LFA had a higher slalom speed than GT2 RS with R compounds on the same track and same day and I am sure it would have been higher than the GT3 easily on the same day and track. Trap speeds vary. I have even seen low Turbo S trap speeds (MotorTrend: ZR-1 vs Turbo S) where it trapped only at 123 mph. Like the video says, LFA's fast automated transmission and wide powerband make it very easy to drive fast consistently on the strip. I believe on a well prepared track, LFA is a 11.2 - 11.3 second car with trap speed (and using the real launch control system) in the high 120s since the 0-60 mph at 3.9 seconds is still off by 3/10ths (it already trapped 126 mph once in prototype form) and the GT2 RS to be 10.5 - 10.6 and low 130s in the trap speed (with the advantage of R compound tires).
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If you want to bring in official lap times, Lexus LFA's official lap time was never released in order to avoid the Porsche/Nissan conflict where they got into a grudge match, but the chief engineer clearly said it was consistently in the low-7:20s (Lexus Europe Twitter Live Conversation).
Remember, I posted how Lexus LFA ran quicker than most high-7:20s in a direct comparison done by AutoBild. Regarding the production LFA, this is the first ever test and the first track numbers. The dyno numbers are much higher than the pre-production LFAs (515 wheel HP vs 435 wheel HP). I am sure if it matches the official 0-60 mph in 3.6 seconds, it is a low-11 second car. I posted a video of Lexus LFA going from 0 - 163 mph in 18 seconds (using real launch control system that Lexus did not allow InsideLine to use). I strongly doubt it will take another 32 seconds for it to get another 22 mph out of it. I don't think so. Quote:
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