Visit to Tecnocraft. Envy Intake System=Quality and Proven

M3_LIN · 11-16-2009, 04:29 PM

Hey guys,

I got off work early last friday and decided to take a trip to Tecnocraft. A few of you have see my post about me not knowing which intake to get. On that post i wanted everyone's feedback about either getting the carbon intake or the kevlar intake for my AWE90M. Its so far been a tie.

Sooo i went there and Steve, the owner of password jdm and tecnocraft, showed me around the place of password jdm. I asked him about the quality and why it the intake is worth the money and why it would gain hp. I've even told him that Eugene Dyno'd his intake in TW and it LOST hp. He then pulled out the DYNO SHEET!!!! from his blackberry and was like well....im not sure what he did but here's our dyno that we did TODAY!.

I was pretty impressed at the results. I then proceeded to ask him about MADE IN USA! You guys know how companies tell you that its MADE in USA only when part of it was MADE IN USA. I was pretty skeptical UNTIL Steve took me to the carbon fiber shop. I saw the intakes being made by hand in front of me(sorry didnt have my camera with me)!.

I wanted to share my experiences with you guys. Its a proven and MADE in USA product. Im pretty much in!

Just gotta wait for them to make me one. Well... i still have to decide Carbon or Kevlar too. They are b/o'd on the intake. So that saved me from being impulsive and getting it that day.

On a side note: Thanks to Eric@PYSpeed for telling Steve that i was coming!

Ed Lin

808MGuy · 11-17-2009, 12:44 AM

Were all those dynos done with the same air filter? I'd like to know exactly how much just the intake itself adds because we all know the filter is a major contributor to the gains of most advertised intake systems.

Serious · 11-17-2009, 12:52 AM

Always take manufacturers or anyone trying to sell you something results with skepticism.

Dyno results are easily altered to show something that isn't necessarily true.

ooowowizstev · 11-17-2009, 12:54 AM

If I'm not mistaken, these dynos were done with the BMC air filter because Tecnocraft sells the chargepipe with the filter. Correct me if I'm wrong.

808MGuy · 11-17-2009, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ooowowizstev

If I'm not mistaken, these dynos were done with the BMC air filter because Tecnocraft sells the chargepipe with the filter. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Then that would explain the significant jump from the stock dyno to the charge pipe dyno. Most of that gain is probably due to the filter. Until I dynos where the only difference is the intake plumbing, I'm not convinced that its worth spending $800 on an intake when you can get most of the gains from a $100 filter.

montreal red · 11-17-2009, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

Were all those dynos done with the same air filter? I'd like to know exactly how much just the intake itself adds because we all know the filter is a major contributor to the gains of most advertised intake systems.

+1
would like to know this as well.

Eugene-TAIWAN · 11-17-2009, 02:48 AM

Nice, I am still trying to figure out why my results are weird. But I am still pretty sure the Tecnocraft makes great products.

Radiation Joe · 11-17-2009, 07:32 AM

A fool and his money ...

Kev · 11-17-2009, 08:32 AM

Even just by going from the stock filter to the ECE spec filter (with the embedded charcoal element) will give you a major boost in power, and that filter is around 50 bucks.

King Tut · 11-17-2009, 09:37 AM

Two words:

independent testing

smmmurf · 11-17-2009, 03:16 PM

I need some independent tests, too. 18hp from an intake...

nlpamg · 11-17-2009, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 808MGuy

Were all those dynos done with the same air filter? I'd like to know exactly how much just the intake itself adds because we all know the filter is a major contributor to the gains of most advertised intake systems.

nope.

the baseline was taken with the stock filter and all other "gains" were taken with an AFE filter according to their video.

FStop7 · 11-17-2009, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev

Even just by going from the stock filter to the ECE spec filter (with the embedded charcoal element) will give you a major boost in power, and that filter is around 50 bucks.

Do you mean without the charcoal element?

Kev · 11-17-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FStop7

Do you mean without the charcoal element?

Oh yeah. It was a typo. I meant without

Eurotrash8 · 11-17-2009, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev

Even just by going from the stock filter to the ECE spec filter (with the embedded charcoal element) will give you a major boost in power, and that filter is around 50 bucks.

Kev, what does ECE mean?

Also what's the Charcoal Element? Holy crap I feel retarded......

tom @ eas · 11-17-2009, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eurotrash8

Kev, what does ECE mean?

Also what's the Charcoal Element? Holy crap I feel retarded......

ECE = Euro

US filters have an embedded charcoal liner used for emissions purposes, which is very restrictive.

maaicher · 11-17-2009, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nlpamg

nope.

the baseline was taken with the stock filter and all other "gains" were taken with an AFE filter according to their video.

Yes, my car is the one on the dyno, i dont have the BMC filter i have the AFE, i bought the filter before they put the intake on my car

Eurotrash8 · 11-17-2009, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

ECE = Euro

US filters have an embedded charcoal liner used for emissions purposes, which is very restrictive.

Thanks Tom. I wonder if the Canadian filters are the same as US

11-16-2009, 04:29 PM	#1
M3_LIN LM-R Whore. 127 Rep 854 Posts Drives: 2009 White M3 Sedan Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: LA iTrader: (1)	Visit to Tecnocraft. Envy Intake System=Quality and Proven Hey guys, I got off work early last friday and decided to take a trip to Tecnocraft. A few of you have see my post about me not knowing which intake to get. On that post i wanted everyone's feedback about either getting the carbon intake or the kevlar intake for my AWE90M. Its so far been a tie. Sooo i went there and Steve, the owner of password jdm and tecnocraft, showed me around the place of password jdm. I asked him about the quality and why it the intake is worth the money and why it would gain hp. I've even told him that Eugene Dyno'd his intake in TW and it LOST hp. He then pulled out the DYNO SHEET!!!! from his blackberry and was like well....im not sure what he did but here's our dyno that we did TODAY!. I was pretty impressed at the results. I then proceeded to ask him about MADE IN USA! You guys know how companies tell you that its MADE in USA only when part of it was MADE IN USA. I was pretty skeptical UNTIL Steve took me to the carbon fiber shop. I saw the intakes being made by hand in front of me(sorry didnt have my camera with me)!. I wanted to share my experiences with you guys. Its a proven and MADE in USA product. Im pretty much in! Just gotta wait for them to make me one. Well... i still have to decide Carbon or Kevlar too. They are b/o'd on the intake. So that saved me from being impulsive and getting it that day. On a side note: Thanks to Eric@PYSpeed for telling Steve that i was coming! Ed Lin __________________ 09AWE90M: Light headlight tint, Full front end clear bra wrap(Harris@InstyleGraphics), Ceramic tint(40%), Piaa GTX H3 bulb, HID 8k AE, 6k Low, INT Luxer1 lights, RD springs, LMR 20X9 +8, 20X10 +18 (Dave @ Status), Vertice CF hood Ducts(Dat @ VertexUSA), Tecnocraft FULL Envy Intake system+plenum(KEVLAR)+cabin filter covers, Meister GTC exhaust, Arkym F LIP.
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