4-5pt Harness

M3Captain · 10-05-2009, 12:15 AM

Anyone make a harness for the e90 yet?

lucid · 10-05-2009, 03:22 AM

Check with HMS Motorsport. When I called them last year, they said they would most likely develop one. They had one for the regular E9X cars, but they said they had to do testing with the M3 seats.

QTRM3 · 10-05-2009, 12:55 PM

^^^ I just called them and nothing yet. they said they are doing the final test this week and if it pass they will need few month to pot it on the market.

M3Captain · 10-05-2009, 07:22 PM

Yea they told me the same thing last year, they have to crash test the seats.

wolftrouble · 10-06-2009, 02:11 PM

Subscribed. I've been wanting one for awhile, I'm sick of my CG Lock.

JC919 · 10-06-2009, 04:41 PM

^on the same boat

QTRM3 · 10-06-2009, 07:43 PM

OFF TOPIC: All of the post in this thread were from a 6MT owners. I thought that people track there cars prefer DCT but after this

M3Captain · 10-07-2009, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by QTRM3

OFF TOPIC: All of the post in this thread were from a 6MT owners. I thought that people track there cars prefer DCT but after this

Its not a racecar with two pedals!

QTRM3 · 10-07-2009, 01:18 AM

I guess without the Harness it is harder for me to deal with the clutch because I have to push me self back in to the seat when I break hard. I don know if anybody here has the same issue.

CSMRX7 · 10-08-2009, 10:44 AM

I get bruises on the outsides of both knees from trying to hold myself in the seat. I am interested to see how this unfolds. I may upgrade my driver's seat in the mean time.

Green///Hell · 10-08-2009, 02:45 PM

Upgrading the seats is not enough.
I still have to keep myself in place 90% of the time, I slide forward and back in braking and acceleration the only place where I stay put is in the corners

I still need some sort of harness even with the racing seats. I was just going to go ahead and buy the same quick fit clip in Profi Kit that is for the E46-E39 and test fit it myself and see if the shoulder straps don't drop down too aggressively

mastek · 10-08-2009, 02:55 PM

Will the SCHROTH QUICK FIT form my e46m3 fit into an e90? .....
or could I retro it in??

Green///Hell · 10-08-2009, 03:15 PM

I mean, its the same quick fit kit used with the E46,E39 and E36 I believe. It's not necessarily that it doesn't fit, because it does, all the bolts are there.
The problem I'm concerned with is safety. The angle at which the belts trail down to the back seat has to be suitable for install, but I believe it should be okay.

It's just two bolts the one on the side held by stock 3-point and theres another on the side of the rear bench, it goes in no problem. The other two connectors are simple seat belt harnesses

von_zoom · 10-08-2009, 03:53 PM

I am not all that familiar with the quick fit kit, but some that I have seen do not hold you in position all that well. Unless there is a front connection on the front floor with the belt between your legs to mid point, the lap part of the belt will ride up, and as a result, the sholder belts will not hold firm. Thus, your body is still subject to motion in the seat. Remember, you sit IN THE SEAT, not ON IT. Thus, you have to be secure, and the need for five points.
vz

Kobaiyashi · 10-08-2009, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSMRX7

I get bruises on the outsides of both knees from trying to hold myself in the seat.

I had the exact same problem!

Hellride · 10-08-2009, 09:56 PM

I just installed this one in mine. It's an E92 and fits pretty darn well. The trailing belts are at a great angle. The only "mod" was to cut off the lap anchor point for the left side due to the stock bar there. With how far forward I put the seat, it allows just enough belt to keep everything symmetric. Now after a weekend I have no knee bruises, no sliding. Of course, I only have two pedals to worry about...

I'll take a few pics if you are all interested.

http://www.schrothracing.com/store/T...allye/rallye-4

QTRM3 · 10-08-2009, 10:57 PM

^^^ can you pleas post some pics

Green///Hell · 10-09-2009, 12:00 AM

Yeah pics would be nice. Personally I like the Profi Quick fit over the rallye belt and the regular quick fit, but I want to get an idea as to what it is you cut???

FrenchBoy · 10-09-2009, 02:32 PM

I have the E46 quick fit harness that I used on my old 325Ci. I had intended to install it on my E90 (using the seat anchor bolts).

Unfortunately, BMW changed the size of the metal tab on the seat belt buckle on the E90 so it doesn't fit :-(

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panda///Monic

I mean, its the same quick fit kit used with the E46,E39 and E36 I believe. It's not necessarily that it doesn't fit, because it does, all the bolts are there.
The problem I'm concerned with is safety. The angle at which the belts trail down to the back seat has to be suitable for install, but I believe it should be okay.

It's just two bolts the one on the side held by stock 3-point and theres another on the side of the rear bench, it goes in no problem. The other two connectors are simple seat belt harnesses

m3larson · 10-09-2009, 03:03 PM

I was just going to say Hellride has one.... He uses it on the I405

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellride

I just installed this one in mine. It's an E92 and fits pretty darn well. The trailing belts are at a great angle. The only "mod" was to cut off the lap anchor point for the left side due to the stock bar there. With how far forward I put the seat, it allows just enough belt to keep everything symmetric. Now after a weekend I have no knee bruises, no sliding. Of course, I only have two pedals to worry about...

I'll take a few pics if you are all interested.

http://www.schrothracing.com/store/T...allye/rallye-4

bigjae1976 · 10-09-2009, 03:49 PM

I've had the ralleye and the quick fit harnesses in my E46.

The quick fits are MUCH easier to live with but you can still use your 3 pt belt for DD with the Ralleye harnesses installed. Just remove your head rest and lay the belts on the rear pass floor well. Then of course, replace your headrest.

If you never have passengers in the back seat then the ralleye belts might be a good option.

If you frequently have passengers then I'd wait for the quick fits.

Hellride · 10-09-2009, 10:01 PM

Hahaha. Yes. Keeps me planted pretty well screaming past LAX...

Going 25...

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3larson

I was just going to say Hellride has one.... He uses it on the I405

10-05-2009, 12:15 AM	#1
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lucid Major General 382 Rep 8,033 Posts Drives: E30 M3; Expedition Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Check with HMS Motorsport. When I called them last year, they said they would most likely develop one. They had one for the regular E9X cars, but they said they had to do testing with the M3 seats. __________________
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QTRM3 Second Lieutenant 10 Rep 209 Posts Drives: E92 M3 2008 6MT Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Dallas, Texas iTrader: (1)	I guess without the Harness it is harder for me to deal with the clutch because I have to push me self back in to the seat when I break hard. I don know if anybody here has the same issue. __________________ Remus Race Exhaust, AA X-Pipe Castles, AA SSK, AA ECU Tune, Evo Sport Pulleys, AFE Filter & Air Scope, HRE P40 20, H&R Springs ...
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CSMRX7 Lieutenant 44 Rep 583 Posts Drives: 2008 E90 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Calgary iTrader: (0)	I get bruises on the outsides of both knees from trying to hold myself in the seat. I am interested to see how this unfolds. I may upgrade my driver's seat in the mean time.
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Green///Hell Colonel 183 Rep 2,870 Posts Drives: 991 GT3, F15 X5, 1199S Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (5)	Upgrading the seats is not enough. I still have to keep myself in place 90% of the time, I slide forward and back in braking and acceleration the only place where I stay put is in the corners I still need some sort of harness even with the racing seats. I was just going to go ahead and buy the same quick fit clip in Profi Kit that is for the E46-E39 and test fit it myself and see if the shoulder straps don't drop down too aggressively
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mastek e36s54, e70x5d 155 Rep 1,723 Posts Drives: slow Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA iTrader: (15)	Will the SCHROTH QUICK FIT form my e46m3 fit into an e90? ..... or could I retro it in??
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Green///Hell Colonel 183 Rep 2,870 Posts Drives: 991 GT3, F15 X5, 1199S Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (5)	I mean, its the same quick fit kit used with the E46,E39 and E36 I believe. It's not necessarily that it doesn't fit, because it does, all the bolts are there. The problem I'm concerned with is safety. The angle at which the belts trail down to the back seat has to be suitable for install, but I believe it should be okay. It's just two bolts the one on the side held by stock 3-point and theres another on the side of the rear bench, it goes in no problem. The other two connectors are simple seat belt harnesses
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von_zoom Captain 31 Rep 915 Posts Drives: 2010 Z06 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (0)	I am not all that familiar with the quick fit kit, but some that I have seen do not hold you in position all that well. Unless there is a front connection on the front floor with the belt between your legs to mid point, the lap part of the belt will ride up, and as a result, the sholder belts will not hold firm. Thus, your body is still subject to motion in the seat. Remember, you sit IN THE SEAT, not ON IT. Thus, you have to be secure, and the need for five points. vz __________________ Previous Track Toy
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10-08-2009, 09:56 PM	#16
Hellride Private 2 Rep 90 Posts Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Jet Black Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California iTrader: (0)	I just installed this one in mine. It's an E92 and fits pretty darn well. The trailing belts are at a great angle. The only "mod" was to cut off the lap anchor point for the left side due to the stock bar there. With how far forward I put the seat, it allows just enough belt to keep everything symmetric. Now after a weekend I have no knee bruises, no sliding. Of course, I only have two pedals to worry about... I'll take a few pics if you are all interested. http://www.schrothracing.com/store/T...allye/rallye-4 __________________ 08 E92 DCT31.1 \| JTBLK/BLK/CARBON LEATHER \| CF ROOF \| TP \| PP \| 18 \| MEDIUM CERAMIC TINT \| HARDWIRE V1
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Green///Hell Colonel 183 Rep 2,870 Posts Drives: 991 GT3, F15 X5, 1199S Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Chicago iTrader: (5)	Yeah pics would be nice. Personally I like the Profi Quick fit over the rallye belt and the regular quick fit, but I want to get an idea as to what it is you cut???
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10-09-2009, 03:49 PM	#21
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