E90 value vs. E92 value

[xnfsx]

Just wanted a general consensus on this topic.

Given the rarity of the E90 M3 and less than 6,000 North American Spec E90 M3s produced between 2007-2011 - How do you guys say the value of the E90 M3s are these days compared to the E92?

I am really curious as I have seen a ton of E92 and they are always relatively lower than E90s.

[s85e90]

e90 value is holding better and starting to show it. Much less cars avail.

[Ezio]

there is more demand for the coupes, which is why BMW made a lot more coupes.BUT because of how many sedans are out there. Prices might favor the sedans at some point in time.

[///M Power-Belgium]

E90 are cheaper because they don't have a CF roof , and no ///M stamp under the hood !

[M3ANMACHINE]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

E90 are cheaper because they don't have a CF roof , and no ///M stamp under the hood !

M Stamp under the Hood?

[narkotic]

Yeah - the coupe has the M logo embossed / imprinted under the front hood. The sedan doesn't.

The coupe also has full LED taillights, the Sedan is a hybrid incandescent / LED version (LCI).

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M3ANMACHINE

M Stamp under the Hood?

Yep , and it's here....

[FormulaMMM]

If E90 exclusivity begins to be reflected in price in a few years you're talking about $2X,000 cars. A 5-10% premium for the sedan would be a couple thousand dollars. I can't see it ever becoming more than that.

I considered an E92 for my 2nd E9X. I don't remember perceiving an E90 price premium at that time (last spring).

E90 rarity sounds like a promising sales pitch for dealers though.

[AlpineE92M3]

I feel the '13's are gonna hold their value the most, being they are the last model year of the V8 M3's. Coupes and sedans are subjective to the buyer. The '13's will probably fetch a slightly higher premium in the years to come.

[jaehshim]

price won't differ that much between coupes and sedans, it's just the issue of can u find one available in the area or not
honestly, i've seen a lot of E90 M3s in Northern NJ...haha not so rare here
It's the convertible that has the crazy depreciation (WHEN comparing to the new car price)
This has been consistent with previous generation M3s

[okusa]

Originally Posted by AlpineE92M3

I feel the '13's are gonna hold their value the most, being they are the last model year of the V8 M3's. Coupes and sedans are subjective to the buyer. The '13's will probably fetch a slightly higher premium in the years to come.

So newer cars are worth more than older ones? Hmmm...csb

[AlpineE92M3]

Wow, guess you got it all figured out then huh bro

[s85e90]

Numbers don't lie. E90s are fetching better money than the e92 counterpart right now. Also keep in mind that an e90 is a very rare car, and is very much unique from the regular e90 in that it has the e92 front lights and large rear arches.

The e92 looks just like a regular e92. Only the front and rear bumpers to tell it apart.

[X5-User]

e92 M3 value is more than e90 M3, even if e90s are rare..the demand on e92 M3 will always be more. If e90 holds its value more, why many dealers low ball the value of e90 compared to e92. Go to CarMax and check that out!

[xnfsx]

Originally Posted by Bimmer-M3

e92 M3 value is more than e90 M3, even if e90s are rare..the demand on e92 M3 will always be more. If e90 holds its value more, why many dealers low ball the value of e90 compared to e92. Go to CarMax and check that out!

I had a discussion with Bimmer-M3 on a FS thread and is why I brought it here. KBB and auto trader all showed value of an e90 M3 to be more than an e92 M3. I just wanted to see what everyone else thought. Sure the demand back then might be more but one is more intrigued if there was a limited production of the m3 e90. I have yet to see a dealer lowball on a e90 m3 in terms of price. If you see one - let me know because id pick another up.

[fitchesbass]

Sedans are relatively rare - though speaking from having sold my Z4M coupe in the past year (even more rare, by production numbers) - I can tell you the rarity factor only matters so much. And in general, it only matters to a small niche portion of the market. I think BMW has learned this lesson a couple times - for example, the M coupes never sold well at dealer - and perhaps likewise for the E90 M3.

I had my Z4M coupe on the market for while before finding the right buyer. I actually tried to sell it twice, and gave up because I kept getting low balls from non-enthusiasts.

I'm sure you could take an E90 M3 and have it posted for a year and try to find the exact right buyer, but it takes normally takes time for those two things to align in the world.


As for 2013 being worth the most - perhaps true now. But to me that's primarily a function of the factory warranty and maintenance program's still being in effect. 3-4 years from now they'll all be one a level playing field - options the same, I don't see anything major which would make a '13 worth more than any other LCI.

[X5-User]

Originally Posted by fitchesbass

Sedans are relatively rare - though speaking from having sold my Z4M coupe in the past year (even more rare, by production numbers) - I can tell you the rarity factor only matters so much. And in general, it only matters to a small niche portion of the market. I think BMW has learned this lesson a couple times - for example, the M coupes never sold well at dealer - and perhaps likewise for the E90 M3.

I had my Z4M coupe on the market for while before finding the right buyer. I actually tried to sell it twice, and gave up because I kept getting low balls from non-enthusiasts.

I'm sure you could take an E90 M3 and have it posted for a year and try to find the exact right buyer, but it takes normally takes time for those two things to align in the world.


As for 2013 being worth the most - perhaps true now. But to me that's primarily a function of the factory warranty and maintenance program's still being in effect. 3-4 years from now they'll all be one a level playing field - options the same, I don't see anything major which would make a '13 worth more than any other LCI.

You just nailed it

[s85e90]

Originally Posted by Bimmer-M3

e92 M3 value is more than e90 M3, even if e90s are rare..the demand on e92 M3 will always be more. If e90 holds its value more, why many dealers low ball the value of e90 compared to e92. Go to CarMax and check that out!

You're gonna quote Carmax? Lol

[s85e90]

Originally Posted by fitchesbass

Sedans are relatively rare - though speaking from having sold my Z4M coupe in the past year (even more rare, by production numbers) - I can tell you the rarity factor only matters so much. And in general, it only matters to a small niche portion of the market. I think BMW has learned this lesson a couple times - for example, the M coupes never sold well at dealer - and perhaps likewise for the E90 M3.

I had my Z4M coupe on the market for while before finding the right buyer. I actually tried to sell it twice, and gave up because I kept getting low balls from non-enthusiasts.

I'm sure you could take an E90 M3 and have it posted for a year and try to find the exact right buyer, but it takes normally takes time for those two things to align in the world.


As for 2013 being worth the most - perhaps true now. But to me that's primarily a function of the factory warranty and maintenance program's still being in effect. 3-4 years from now they'll all be one a level playing field - options the same, I don't see anything major which would make a '13 worth more than any other LCI.

If memory serves me right, there is only 2,xxx M coupes in USA. And those cars are starting to bring good money Check em out.

I follow pricing very closely and am an appraiser of higher end autos. e90 rarity is def helping prices. Unfortunately the M cars a niche cars and you cannot use the same standards for valuation.

[rjd598]

i think naturally the e90's might fetch a little more premium just based on the production numbers, but ultimately it's based on buyer preference and the market. if history repeats itself then it won't make a difference between e92 and e90. when searching for my e36 i saw no significant premium for sedans vs. coupes even though they were all coupes practically.

[RR-NYC]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Yep , and it's here....

Good to know... I had no idea since mine doesn't have that

[fitchesbass]

Originally Posted by s85e90

If memory serves me right, there is only 2,xxx M coupes in USA. And those cars are starting to bring good money Check em out.

I follow pricing very closely and am an appraiser of higher end autos. e90 rarity is def helping prices. Unfortunately the M cars a niche cars and you cannot use the same standards for valuation.

Total production for the Z4M coupe in US was 1,815

2006: 377
2007: 1,188
2008: 250

I owed 1 of ~200 silver grey on black Z4M coupes. Just looked - the Z4MC prices still seem inline with what I sold my car for 11 months ago - which is great - they seem to be holding their value. Worth noting too... asking price is not always a good barometer of the final sale price.

My only point was: rarity may "help" prices - but its not like will be easy to get a premium price because an owner thinks an E90 is the best thing in the world. It only takes one buyer, but finding the buyer that will pay top dollar will be more difficult.

It was the same story for the Z4MC. I thought it was an amazing car - but I got a ton of low-ball offers, until I found a buyer that everything my car had including options, color and mileage ticked all the boxes.

Knowing the M3 history would help to study too. E36 M3 Sedan were only built 97-98 - which limited production run. A lot of track people like them because they are said to be stiffer. The downside there, a fair amount came with automatics, which made those models less desirable. A clean sedan 5-speed though will fetch good money.

This "premium" could exist for anything. I searched high and low (for 7+ months) for an LCI Interlagos Blue coupe with a 6-speed manual and ZHP - and I paid a slight premium for it. If someone thinks buying an E90 M3 is an investment - then that is probably just silly. Only car I've owned where a real appreciation was observed was my 930 911. Those prices have gone bananas over the past year or so. And that car is 25+ years old... not <6 years.


Either way, I have a feeling E90 guys will say their cars are worth the most, and E92 guys will say their cars are worth the most. Whichever car people own is generally their response on which is best.