|
|
07-16-2015, 04:17 PM | #1 |
Private
10
Rep 65
Posts |
Borla Atak vs. ACM Mod
I am ~3 weeks into my E90 M3 ownership and am continually disappointed by the exhaust note. I'm not looking for stupid loud and would only be replacing the rear cat-back; no test pipes or x-pipe replacement for me.
I've listened to plenty of videos of both the ACM mod and the Borla mod and am simply trying to get a feel for whether one is louder or more refined/better. I can scoop up a pretty excellent deal on a Borla muffler, or pay maybe $250 less for the ACM exhaust through Zury Fabrications in MD. Has anyone had both exhaust and can speak to the differences and whether one is a clear winner? FWIW, I thought about going the perforated pipe method, but fear that won't be quite loud enough....but I also don't want straight-pipe Mustang V8 loud. Thanks! Last edited by 95RogueM3; 07-16-2015 at 04:33 PM.. |
07-16-2015, 05:59 PM | #3 |
Banned
1770
Rep 6,696
Posts
Drives: F30 340i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego,CA
|
do perforated method but with all 4 pipes. you can't argue with the price no matter how good of a deal you get on an aftermarket muffler. just my .02
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-16-2015, 06:53 PM | #4 |
Captain
118
Rep 621
Posts
Drives: 2008 Jerez Black E92 M3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Perth Western Australia
|
Borla Atak is an excellent product and does not drone badly either. Buy the Borla
__________________
Jerez Black 2008 6MT with Borla Atak Exhaust/ M3 World X Pipe and Test Pipes/ aFe Pro Stage 2 Intake / 19" Advan DZ-DF Forged Wheels wrapped in ContiSport Contact 5P 245/35/19 Fronts & 285/30/19 Rears/ KW Var 3 Coilovers / BPM Sports Stage 2 Tuned/ VAC Rod Bearing Replacement / Throttle Body Actuator Gear Set
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-16-2015, 07:33 PM | #5 |
Brigadier General
380
Rep 3,934
Posts |
The borla will have a cleaner sound. Because it's designed to sound a certain way.
The OEM mod is going off more of the natural sound of the engine . Even more so when you get a catless x pipe. The s65 is a very good sounding motor. So it's going to be a good sound. I would bet the OEM mod is louder but more aggressive. The borla is cleaner. And look a lot better. |
Appreciate
0
|
07-16-2015, 07:42 PM | #6 |
Brigadier General
1006
Rep 3,341
Posts |
The Borla is a screamer and doesn't have any irritating drone. It doesn't sound american muscle on the M3. I was impressed with it but it was just a hair too much for me.
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-17-2015, 12:34 AM | #7 |
Captain
118
Rep 621
Posts
Drives: 2008 Jerez Black E92 M3
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Perth Western Australia
|
this video is my car with Borla Atak plus M3 World X-pipe w/ 2 highflow cats + catless front pipes https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-t...&v=rj63aIOHNg4
__________________
Jerez Black 2008 6MT with Borla Atak Exhaust/ M3 World X Pipe and Test Pipes/ aFe Pro Stage 2 Intake / 19" Advan DZ-DF Forged Wheels wrapped in ContiSport Contact 5P 245/35/19 Fronts & 285/30/19 Rears/ KW Var 3 Coilovers / BPM Sports Stage 2 Tuned/ VAC Rod Bearing Replacement / Throttle Body Actuator Gear Set
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-18-2015, 11:29 AM | #8 |
Private
10
Rep 65
Posts |
Thanks all!
Unfortunately there aren't alot of E90/E92 M3s nearby with exhaust setups, but I'd like to try and hear both the ACM and Borla in person before buying. No rush, I guess. |
Appreciate
0
|
07-18-2015, 12:34 PM | #9 | |
Captain
323
Rep 824
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-18-2015, 08:17 PM | #10 |
Captain
216
Rep 982
Posts |
OEM bypass mod for sure. Here is my response to a similar thread:
I have stock everything except for the EAS Bypass exhaust mod and EAS 80mm exhaust tips. I have listened to almost every exhaust for this car in person, including some crazy high dollar Akra and IPE configurations, and this setup sounds the best (IMO). The best part is, it happens to be super cheap at around $400 and I still have my cats in place to pass smog in CA. Never have to worry about getting pulled over or anything like that. I have always been a big exhaust guy, always removing cats on all of my cars and dumping a ton of money into the best possible setup. I know most will say, how good could the stock exhaust sound with just some mod done to it... Trust me I was looking for a reason to swap mine out. After hearing almost everything on the market in person, I have no reason to waste my money. The tone is controlled by the throttle, so it is loud at WOT and reasonable when cruising. You get a clean exotic tone with this setup, where most catless setup's sound loud and raspy. Mine is much more refined. The downshifts with DCT are absolute intoxicating, and the 80mm tips give it that perfect aftermarket look as well.
__________________
Last edited by AP3X_FTW; 07-18-2015 at 08:25 PM.. |
Appreciate
1
|
07-19-2015, 11:42 AM | #11 | |
Lieutenant General
7494
Rep 12,310
Posts |
Quote:
Still to this day one of my favorite setups. I got bored and decided to get test pipes and that's where it went down hill. Way too loud, way too raspy. But ACM by itself was absolutely to die for.
__________________
Current:
16 F82 M4 GTS, Black Sapphire/Black, DCT 08 E92 M3, Sparkling Graphite/Bamboo Beige, 6MT 07 E85 Z4M Roadster, Alpine White/Red, 6MT 99 E36 M3, Techno Violet/Dove Grey, 6MT |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-19-2015, 02:50 PM | #12 | |
Captain
216
Rep 982
Posts |
Quote:
If you're set on gaining some power through the use of test pipes or an aftermarket X pipe, then the best muffler for an exotic tone is the Meisterschaft GT. This muffler paired with the challenge sport x pipe (utilizes high flow cats) sounds amazing. Not only will you gain more power this way, but the aftermarket muffler will shed some weight off of the car. If I was going to spend a few thousand on the exhaust, this is the only set-up I would swap out my OEM exhaust mod for We are comparing $400 to around $3,000 though.
__________________
Last edited by AP3X_FTW; 07-23-2015 at 12:44 AM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-22-2015, 11:06 PM | #13 |
Lieutenant Colonel
727
Rep 1,974
Posts |
I have the OEM mod (perforated method) and want something louder. Maybe I should have gotten the bypass method, but I feel that it's too bassy. The perforated OEM mod isn't too loud but certainly audible, and it sounds great. If you aren't looking for anything intrusive the perforated mod is the way to go. I am considering the borla now because I do want something a bit louder but I have no regrets doing the OEM mod because I can always get my money back and loved it so far.
Try the OEM mod first, if you don't like it you can get most of your money back and look for a different exhaust. If you love it you saved yourself hundreds if not thousands of dollars. I'd say go for the OEM mod!
__________________
2013 BMW E92 ///M3 AW/BLK ZCP CF Roof 6 Speed - Perfection
2011 BMW E90 328i xDrive Space Grey/Black - Daily 2011 BMW E93 ///M3 MW/FR/BLK 6 Speed - Gone but not forgotten |
Appreciate
0
|
07-23-2015, 08:42 PM | #14 | |
Captain
340
Rep 947
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-23-2015, 09:11 PM | #15 | |
Captain
216
Rep 982
Posts |
Quote:
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=954875
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-24-2015, 10:44 AM | #16 |
Captain
340
Rep 947
Posts |
I thought there was a third method. I always knew it at ACM and perforated. Actually, they should be called bypass and delete method or something like that. Thanks for the info.
|
Appreciate
0
|
07-24-2015, 01:29 PM | #17 | |
Private
10
Rep 65
Posts |
Quote:
Thanks. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-12-2015, 12:50 PM | #18 |
Private First Class
13
Rep 154
Posts |
I am in Lynchburg and have the ATAK exhaust on my e90. Really close to pulling the trigger on the borla x pipe as well.
__________________
2011.75 E90 M3 ZCP Jet Black, LUX Angel Eyes, Borla ATAK Exhaust, Powdercoated ZCP wheels |
Appreciate
0
|
08-12-2015, 08:58 PM | #19 |
Lieutenant Colonel
188
Rep 1,755
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-13-2015, 07:17 AM | #20 |
Private First Class
13
Rep 154
Posts |
I had the mPerformance exhaust when I bought the car but I wanted something more aggressive. I think it sounds awesome as is now (just the borla atak catback system) but I have the mod bug and am curious about the power gains from removing the cats.
__________________
2011.75 E90 M3 ZCP Jet Black, LUX Angel Eyes, Borla ATAK Exhaust, Powdercoated ZCP wheels |
Appreciate
0
|
08-16-2015, 02:43 PM | #21 |
First Lieutenant
55
Rep 380
Posts
Drives: '11.5 E92 ZCP DCT
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Florida
|
I have the ATAK and there are a lot of ACM modded guys around here...there is absolutely no comparison and they all agree. Modding your OEM will sound better than stock but sound like a joke compared to the Borla.
__________________
11.5' E92 ZCP DCT
10' E92 335i M-Sport 6MT 03' E46 Dinan S2 SMG |
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|