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11-17-2017, 06:25 PM | #1 |
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Hello all! I’m a newcomer to the forum and reading up up as much as I can so thanks for all the great info!!!
So, I’m looking at getting into a 2008 m3 convertible. That’s the wife’s only demand if I get my car, it has to be a convertible! Lol, I can live with that. So, my questions are, what do I have to look into before pulling the trigger on one? For sure I’d do a PPI before but what are the common issues that I need to look out for? I really appreciate the feed back and thanks in advance! Bobby |
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http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1440010
Try searching a little too but check out this thread that was posted recently |
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Thanks for the links! I read up on them even though I already knew about the “possible” bearing issue. Is there any way precautions to take? Or is it just the bad luck of the draw when picking the car?
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Besides the bearings there aren't material differences. I think if you ever need to do the clutch you would have to get the newer flywheel design (assuming manual, not sure about dct). I would get a 2011 and up, it's got the updated led lights and is basically the same as the others save the 2008 which is the odd ball. To be super transparent, I wouldn't have bought mine in the first place if I could go back. I am sorting through a blown motor right now. I'm in the minority though. Most just suffer rod bearing headaches. |
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The reason I’m looking for a 2008 is because, here in Canada, Quebec to be more specific, if I buy a 10 year old car or older, the car is no longer registered for value. So, i don’t have to pay the extra 10% taxes on the vehicle! Sorry, that’s my cheap side talking! |
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Rod is a friend of mine, and he's gotten a bad rep recently. He's really a high quality person
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Flywheel? Bearing design? That's news to me.
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Get an E92 and tell her the removable top is broken and ridiculously expensive to have repaired. Just make up a number north of $15k. Then enjoy. GL
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11-17-2017, 11:23 PM | #13 |
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If your friend Rod wasn't such a failure, more people would respect and stick up for him. If he wasn't such a rude basterd maybe people would keep him around longer.
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So if I’m understanding most of you guys correctly, you advise me to stay away from a 2008-2010 model because of the rod bearing issues? Have that many people have this issue come up?
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11-22-2017, 08:20 AM | #16 |
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All models have the same potential bearing issue... The later models just won't show on oil reports.
But...I would get a later model for the CIC interface. Ideally that way, you can also bluetooth audio to the system as well as apps like Spotify. There are plenty of people still on original bearings... I'd say most M3s in fact. Whether you want that risk or not, is your preference. I'm still not convinced it's absolutely necessary for ALL cars. Good luck with your search! |
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Regardless of which year you buy, all have the same likelihood of rod bearing failure. Currently it's like a 1-2% failure rate so it's very unlikely, but myself and some others believe this is smart preventative maintenance when you buy an M3. Zero correlation has been found for the failures, they just happen. You cannot avoid one without changing the bearings, so it isn't something you should live in fear of. You either change the bearings and pay the ~2500 shops charge for the whole thing or you don't, but if you don't then don't live in fear without revving the engine because of them because it makes no difference. The E93M is awesome and I want to get one to add to the family of the E90M and E92M. The day I buy an E93 I will be doing rod bearings on it immediately after purchasing it. The only way I'd buy a 2008 is if it came without a nav. The nav in that year is truly ancient. I'm not too concerned about the flywheel or clutch pedal changes. The clutch pedal can be swapped for an Ultimate Clutch Pedal. Generally speaking these are very reliable cars. You don't have vanos or subframe issues which plague other cars. A PPI in this car would basically be to make sure it hasn't had an accident. |
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another bit of e93 specific advice: check the operation of the hard top carefully. They've been impressively reliable from what I can tell but are very expensive to fix if they havent been cared for.
The tension cables on the '08 models were updated later (not sure if it was by the next year, but definitely by '11) because they were prone to fraying and snapping. New ones have been reportedly solid. Just one more reason to target the 2011+ models Good luck! You'll love this car. Your wife is a smart woman, the e93 M3 is a really unique package, there's nothing quite like it. |
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I'm surprised no one talked about the throttle actuator issues. That's probably the second biggest issue with these motors if you do a bit more research on it. Although it isn't as serious as the rod bearings, it is still a costly fix because there are two of them. I believe it'll easily cost about 3K. So definitely be aware of those.
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