|
|
09-25-2010, 09:25 AM | #1 |
Enlisted Member
4
Rep 44
Posts |
macht schnell EDC emulator
Hi to all,
I need your help, somehow I managed to misplace the installation instructions for the edc modulator. Could someone send/post them in pdf? Thanks in advance, David |
03-15-2011, 02:17 AM | #2 |
Second Lieutenant
23
Rep 213
Posts |
Sorry to revive such an old thread but I figured that since I just went through this same thing in looking for instructions unable to find any online I'd post what I got. I would have to also say a big thank you to Tom and the crew at EAS for their help. Without them I probably would still be lost in trying to figure out how to get this thing wired up.
I've attached the instructions but would like to preface that they are rather confusing and maybe also incorrect with their wiring diagram. More on that later. Basically the install begins with removing the right side trunk liner in order to access the EDC module. I found these instructions from EAS very helpful, since the EDC module is in the exact same place as the TPMS module and the instructions for removing the pins from the BMW harness is pretty much the same. Once you've got all that down all you need to know is that the EDC module is the one with two connectors going to it. One white and another blue as shown here... At this point all that is left is to intercept the proper wires from their respective harnesses. Basically there are six wires to connect. The first two (14ga Red and 14ga Brown) are the easiest and thanks to Tom@EAS help, the hook up was very convenient. As a matter of fact the Macht Schnell instructions don't really tell you where to get these connections. Using my own yellow t-taps (the ones provided in the kit were too small, blue) I tapped into the Red/Green and Brown 14ga wires on the white connector going into the BMW EDC module. Red going to Red/Green and Brown going to Brown. The next 4 wires basically are used to intercept the CAN BUS signal to the BMW EDC module. For this you need to remove the Blue/Red and Red 18ga wires from the blue BMW connector going into the EDC module as shown here... The next step requires a little thinking. On the one hand this process could be a little easier if Macht Schnell choose to use the same color wires as BMW but they didn't. For the proper connections I would reference you to the table on page 2 of the attached PDF. It is a little confusing especially since page 4 of the PDF doesn't coincide with the table on page 2 so I would say to ignore page 4 all together and follow the pin connections on page 2. Once you've gotten all the wires connected the way they should be I would recomend temporarily connecting all the harnesses up and starting the car to confirm a proper connection. If all is good the green led on the EDC emulation module will flash continually. (for this pic I'm going to have to use EAS's TPMS module pic since I didn't take any but the EDC emulation module looks exactly the same)... Oh and don't forget to check control messages if you have iDrive... |
Appreciate
0
|
03-15-2011, 04:03 PM | #4 |
Second Lieutenant
23
Rep 213
Posts |
From what I understand this EDC emulator just makes the computer think that everything is all hooked up and still operational. Shouldn't affect DSC. It is as if I ordered the car without the EDC option basically.
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-12-2011, 08:27 PM | #5 |
Major
78
Rep 1,376
Posts
Drives: 1988 M3, 1990 M3, 1998 M3/4
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
iTrader: (7)
Garage List 1998 BMW M3/4 [10.00]
2011 BMW M3 Sedan [9.28] 1988 BMW M3 [9.40] 1990 BMW M3 [10.00] 2008 BMW 135i - sold [0.00] 2003 BMW M3 - sold [0.00] |
roycemek, thank you so much for the write-up and link! I'm getting ready to install this in my car and the instructions were horrible. This was the best information I found with the link to the TPMS install. Luckily I found out that I am missing the black "male" connector that I plug the factory wires into and then into the macht schnell harness. Hopefully I can get the part I need quickly. Thanks again for posting this
__________________
1988 BMW M3 - Hennarot/Black
1990 BMW M3 racecar - Diamond Schwarz/Black 1998 BMW M3 - Alpine White/Mulberry 2011 BMW 328i racecar - LeMans Blue/Black |
Appreciate
0
|
06-16-2011, 11:19 PM | #7 |
Major
78
Rep 1,376
Posts
Drives: 1988 M3, 1990 M3, 1998 M3/4
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
iTrader: (7)
Garage List 1998 BMW M3/4 [10.00]
2011 BMW M3 Sedan [9.28] 1988 BMW M3 [9.40] 1990 BMW M3 [10.00] 2008 BMW 135i - sold [0.00] 2003 BMW M3 - sold [0.00] |
Little bit of trouble. I should have read your instructions completely as I did the install. A friend of mine did the install (he's a BMW tech) and the only page I got for the install was page 4. He quickly figured out that the harness was done wrong because we hooked it up, blinked green one time, and then did nothing but throw the error on the dash. We rewired it and tried it again with the same result. The only thing different we did was take the red wire to the + terminal of the battery and the brown wire to the - terminal of the battery. My friend laughed because the instructions said the brown goes to PIN31 wire. It says 31 on the diagram because that is an actual BMW diagram. He said 31 means ground and so it should work going straight from the battery. Not sure how to make this thing work now.
__________________
1988 BMW M3 - Hennarot/Black
1990 BMW M3 racecar - Diamond Schwarz/Black 1998 BMW M3 - Alpine White/Mulberry 2011 BMW 328i racecar - LeMans Blue/Black |
Appreciate
0
|
06-17-2011, 03:03 PM | #8 | |
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
8547
Rep 19,001
Posts
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA
|
Quote:
PIN2 from Module >> PIN15 on EDC connector PIN10 from Module >> PIN14 on EDC connector PIN3 from Module >> Red wire removed from EDC connector (BMW harness) PIN11 from Module >> Blue/Red Wire removed from EDC connector (BMW harness) Power/Ground can be obtained from the white connector: PIN1 = +12V Power PIN6 = Ground Hope this helps.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22 GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM |
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-17-2011, 03:48 PM | #9 | |
Major
78
Rep 1,376
Posts
Drives: 1988 M3, 1990 M3, 1998 M3/4
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
iTrader: (7)
Garage List 1998 BMW M3/4 [10.00]
2011 BMW M3 Sedan [9.28] 1988 BMW M3 [9.40] 1990 BMW M3 [10.00] 2008 BMW 135i - sold [0.00] 2003 BMW M3 - sold [0.00] |
Quote:
__________________
1988 BMW M3 - Hennarot/Black
1990 BMW M3 racecar - Diamond Schwarz/Black 1998 BMW M3 - Alpine White/Mulberry 2011 BMW 328i racecar - LeMans Blue/Black |
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-17-2011, 03:54 PM | #10 | |
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
8547
Rep 19,001
Posts
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA
|
Quote:
Wiring the leads directly to the battery would not cause an issue, verify the CAN leads going in/out of the module are wired correctly.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22 GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM |
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-17-2011, 04:33 PM | #11 |
Second Lieutenant
23
Rep 213
Posts |
The CAN leads might be reveresed. At first I had them reversed but switching them around fixed it. You know it is working when the car is powered on the green led will blink rapidly continually.
|
Appreciate
0
|
06-17-2011, 10:36 PM | #12 |
Major
78
Rep 1,376
Posts
Drives: 1988 M3, 1990 M3, 1998 M3/4
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
iTrader: (7)
Garage List 1998 BMW M3/4 [10.00]
2011 BMW M3 Sedan [9.28] 1988 BMW M3 [9.40] 1990 BMW M3 [10.00] 2008 BMW 135i - sold [0.00] 2003 BMW M3 - sold [0.00] |
I got it!!! Tom, thanks for the simple instructions. Is it normal for the EDC button to be lit up like I'm in super stiff mode?
__________________
1988 BMW M3 - Hennarot/Black
1990 BMW M3 racecar - Diamond Schwarz/Black 1998 BMW M3 - Alpine White/Mulberry 2011 BMW 328i racecar - LeMans Blue/Black |
Appreciate
0
|
06-20-2011, 12:00 PM | #13 |
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
8547
Rep 19,001
Posts
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA
|
It's normal. Glad everything is working AOK.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22 GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM |
Appreciate
0
|
08-01-2011, 06:58 PM | #14 |
Kind of a big deal
303
Rep 1,674
Posts
Drives: an 1M not often enough
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: between Unlimited and Hard to Get
|
Tom, anyone,
would you happen to: 1) have a wiring diagram for the EDC module? IE what is the total overview of io's vs Pins (# or color) to the EDC module? If not available would you know what signals are part of the io list: Connector1 (Color?): -CanBus (gyro, V, accel), -Console switch -Supply/Ground -? -? Connector2 (Color?): -Drive signal to Shocks [4x2] -? -? 2) know what signal type/level drives the shocks magnetic valve. Assuming analog fixed drive signal, then 0V or NC should equals SPORT MODE (for safety reasons). Normal = ?V and Comfort = ?V 3) know what the shock input impedance is? above questions related to EDC retrofit research |
Appreciate
0
|
08-01-2011, 07:03 PM | #15 | |
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
8547
Rep 19,001
Posts
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA
|
Quote:
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22 GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM |
|
Appreciate
0
|
08-04-2011, 05:14 PM | #17 |
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
8547
Rep 19,001
Posts
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA
|
I have EDC suspension here (takeoff).
Anything can be retrofitted, it depends on your budget. IMHO: It's not worth investing into the retrofit as it is a bit more than just springs/struts alone.
__________________
Tom G. | european auto source (eas)
email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22 GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM |
Appreciate
0
|
08-04-2011, 09:54 PM | #18 |
Major
78
Rep 1,376
Posts
Drives: 1988 M3, 1990 M3, 1998 M3/4
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Oklahoma City, OK
iTrader: (7)
Garage List 1998 BMW M3/4 [10.00]
2011 BMW M3 Sedan [9.28] 1988 BMW M3 [9.40] 1990 BMW M3 [10.00] 2008 BMW 135i - sold [0.00] 2003 BMW M3 - sold [0.00] |
To each is their own, but I can't imagine doing this. The cost of doing it just wouldn't be worth it for what you would be getting. The EDC is pretty good, but not that good.
__________________
1988 BMW M3 - Hennarot/Black
1990 BMW M3 racecar - Diamond Schwarz/Black 1998 BMW M3 - Alpine White/Mulberry 2011 BMW 328i racecar - LeMans Blue/Black |
Appreciate
0
|
08-05-2011, 04:52 PM | #19 |
Kind of a big deal
303
Rep 1,674
Posts
Drives: an 1M not often enough
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: between Unlimited and Hard to Get
|
Hi Tom, can you PM me with price and set details (if not complete with console switch, accelerometers, steering sensor, shock wiring, etc), or otherwise let me know how to exchange more info.
For testing purpose, some assist with wiring and OEM drive signal levels to the shocks is needed. IE could you have access to a functioning EDC setup? thx, Eeghie |
Appreciate
0
|
12-10-2012, 07:59 AM | #21 |
Second Lieutenant
97
Rep 286
Posts |
Did the install last night. Below instructions made it simple:
http://www.eurotuner.com/techarticle...3/viewall.html |
Appreciate
0
|
07-24-2013, 05:40 PM | #22 | |
Major
145
Rep 1,130
Posts |
Quote:
PIN 2 >> PIN 14 PIN 10 >> PIN 15 Which is correct? |
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|