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MB has improved. Read the JD Power surveys, not to mention this board compared to the C63 board. LOL, the M3 sounds like a real POS if you read M3post, SORRY BUT IT'S TRUE. COMPLAINTS OUTWEIGH PRAISE. BMW released M-DCT before it was proven. For many BMW enthusiasts, that is acceptable. Not for me.
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and thats the reason why Mercedes dont offer 4y/50m warranty, smart isnt it. I had 2 benzes for 10 yrs, its was a MF taking it for minor service at the dealership. That was why its was a garage queen. these are my high cost of ownership in order: BMW. Mbenz, Porsche
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I agree wholeheartedly with you mate, I had a Boxster which was in the dealers quite a bit, puffing black smoke in the morning and having noisy tappets. The air-con gave problems (understandable given that it was 5yr old technology in a new car). Mercedes have had a bad rap in JD Power reviews but that's a case of customers having higher expectations because of the brand than with most other brands. If the dealer is good and efficient then any problem no matter how big doesn't seem to bad or big of a deal, that how I found my Audi ownership, sure it had the odd fault but these were dealt with efficiently with no trouble to me. I agree that M-DCT may have be rushed a bit and some complaints could have been avoided but on a whole BMW owners have as high an expectation as Merc and they always seem to do OK in the old JDP ratings. In your C63 you have the making of a wonderful car with bags of comfort, quality and speed in a very attractive shell, I think someone poke a nerve with their comments and you bite back without really meaning any of what you said. |
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You're right footie, one of my tender nerves must have been exposed
Note to self: don't drink and post! I think the M3 is a sensational car; I've posted that on the C63 forum. My expectations for it were sky-high after such a long buildup, and I am disappointed in the glitches. I just want BMW do to better, because the driving dynamics and engineering of the M3 are inspiring, and so is the engine. I sound like a moldy-fig, luddite or what have you.... and like mickb said, you hear the same stuff on Porsche boards: "Porsche has lost its way" .... I feel that way about BMW. Who really makes a pure sports sedan anymore? BMW has moved toward MB and Lexus, while Lexus and MB have moved toward BMW. I would love to see something from BMW with the M3's engine and chassis, but without all the techno-gizmos. Something that takes brilliant technology to design and build, but not to drive. Something with superior engineering, but still pure. I still feel passionate about the BMW brand - that's why I have higher expectations of it than I do MB. Because I know it's a great company and they CAN get it right. It's just that these days, it's a numbers game and they are not a niche company by any means. My expectations are all out of whack. It's just a car.... pass me another glass of vino. See it's better I got the C63. Can you imagine my whining if I did have a problem with my E90M3?!? sheeez.
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That's alright. Just don't drink and drive.
PURE sports sedan. That almost sounds like an oxymoron. Hey that's a catchy name for a car. "Introducing the new BMW oxymoron." Ok, but hand over your keys first.
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