Many questions DCT

Dice13 · 11-09-2010, 04:05 PM

Help me understand this car please.I hope this will help others understand things better also. I know I wrote alot but it will help many.

1- The Servotronic what is this, 2 settings normal and sport ?

2- Power- normal,sport,sport plus explain this please.

3-DSC ,off,on M Dynamic mode, what is this? I know we have DSC that we hold for 2 seconds and traction control is off,is this the same as on,off M Dynamic mode,im lost.

4- Drive logic, D 1-5, S 1-5 not sure what this is for I am not sure I feel any difference or what it is for.

5-I know we have D as it up shifts for you but downshifts very easy, then we have M 1-7 which is only way I have driven this car with paddles and gear shift. I can not figure out sport mode where it shift very aggressive up and down shifts.

Ah as I was writing this maybe I answered 1 of my own questions the first question as I was writing and reading , for auto aggressive driving aggressive up and downshifting do you just put it in drive and set servotronic to sport. Then for regular driving for wife just set it to normal.

6- Shift lights why does it say shift lights on,off ,unchanged and not just on /off.

7-The M button will set all the above to my remote if I am correct.

Thanks Vic

aajami · 11-09-2010, 04:17 PM

Hey Vic,

You should spend 10-15 minutes with your owner's manual, as it answers all of your questions above with the exception of #6.

Regarding question 6. A lot of my M Drive settings also say "unchanged" as an option. This happened immediately after I went in for a DCT reflash, so I assume it's simply a side effect of updating the software. Did you have your car reflashed recently?

Dice13 · 11-09-2010, 04:30 PM

I read to manual but it don't explain things too well. My car is a week old 2011.5. The shift lights is m least worry. BTW I think the manual sucks,it could explain things better.

Radiation Joe · 11-09-2010, 04:55 PM

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geneatals · 11-09-2010, 05:24 PM

funny, I've read the owner's manual at least 3x already and know for a fact all these q's can and have been answered by reading the manual. Did you read the supplemental M3 w/ DCT manual? Can't wait til i take delivery of my car...

ChrisK · 11-09-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Radiation Joe

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+1

Dice13 · 11-09-2010, 06:02 PM

Flameeeeeee away boys and girls,I knew I could count on you.

I just put my flame retardant suite on.

mkoesel · 11-09-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dice13

1- The Servotronic what is this, 2 settings normal and sport ?

It's like a pogo-stick but with less confetti.

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2- Power- normal,sport,sport plus explain this please.

Algebra. And mid-range scarves.

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3-DSC ,off,on M Dynamic mode, what is this? I know we have DSC that we hold for 2 seconds and traction control is off,is this the same as on,off M Dynamic mode,im lost.

We don't speak of it. None hath spoken of thine in o'er a century. Nor shalt thy taketh of thou in ye tongue.

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4- Drive logic, D 1-5, S 1-5 not sure what this is for I am not sure I feel any difference or what it is for.

So then I said, "Well, my friend, why bother with the stuffing if you can't give up a dollar!?"

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5-I know we have D as it up shifts for you but downshifts very easy, then we have M 1-7 which is only way I have driven this car with paddles and gear shift. I can not figure out sport mode where it shift very aggressive up and down shifts.

Most of them find that it's a little more pixelated when you keep the glasses on.

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6- Shift lights why does it say shift lights on,off ,unchanged and not just on /off.

As for the reluctance of the prey to succumb to its predator, we must credit Clive Sanders with the breakthroughs needed to see just how enigmatic we've all become, and just how quirky needlepoint-rescue can manifest itself. Only the rather serene village of Landau can release the mysteries of this finely crafted and oft-missed clerical remark.

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7-The M button will set all the above to my remote if I am correct.

There's a few different spacial techniques. The first involves the wisdom of the elderberry. The second centers itself around keeping abreast of mild toxicity.

Lodaka · 11-09-2010, 06:41 PM

Thanks for the great explanations. This saves me from reading the manual again.

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Originally Posted by mkoesel

It's like a pogo-stick but with less confetti.

Algebra. And mid-range scarves.

We don't speak of it. None hath spoken of thine in o'er a century. Nor shalt thy taketh of thou in ye tongue.

So then I said, "Well, my friend, why bother with the stuffing if you can't give up a dollar!?"

Most of them find that it's a little more pixelated when you keep the glasses on.

As for the reluctance of the prey to succumb to its predator, we must credit Clive Sanders with the breakthroughs needed to see just how enigmatic we've all become, and just how quirky needlepoint-rescue can manifest itself. Only the rather serene village of Landau can release the mysteries of this finely crafted and oft-missed clerical remark.

There's a few different spacial techniques. The first involves the wisdom of the elderberry. The second centers itself around keeping abreast of mild toxicity.

ES_TRADER · 11-09-2010, 07:12 PM

put in "D" and step on gas pedal...car moves forward...if success, i wouldnt have another care in the world

LemonOne · 11-09-2010, 08:02 PM

This thread is pure wow

Dice13 · 11-09-2010, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by LemonOne

This thread is pure wow

I am happy I was able to WOW you.

llis · 11-09-2010, 08:33 PM

In all fairness, the Power button is not really explained anywhere in the manuals, except on the level of the Easy button.

walsh · 11-09-2010, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dice13

I am happy I was able to WOW you.

Don't get too excited... I'm not sure you did any of the "wowing"

FruitCake · 11-09-2010, 09:15 PM

hello, thanks to further strengthen the stereotype of BMW let alone M3 owner kthxbye

sor · 11-09-2010, 10:30 PM

bah! ha haaaa

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...rvotronic.html

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...1U4ZoDDW5vYA==

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...damper_control

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/insights/t...es/mdrive.html

signes · 11-09-2010, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Radiation Joe

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Come on, both barrels!

Dice13 · 11-09-2010, 11:39 PM

Sport program on page 61- push selector lever toward left from from position D, the sport program is activated, the engaged gear s1 us displayed in instrument cluster, the only thing my instruments cluster reads is D 1-7 or M1-7, S has not come up in my cluster.

The power button gives you different throttle response, WOW I thought it was like a nitrous button . The manual explained that real well. Sport button the en gine reacts more spontaneous to accelerator pedal almost sounds like the power button but adds to quicker gear changes.

Sleeper519 · 11-10-2010, 12:10 AM

why do you say you have a 2011.5 model? It's not halfway through the model year, it's only friggin Nov 2010.

And still others say they are currently driving 2012 M3s?? (Ghost)

...help me here. what am i missing?

justinluv949 · 11-10-2010, 12:19 AM

Vic,
You bought your car from a dealership, you spent 60 to 70k on this car. Your salesperson should have gone over all these features, if he dident you need to call him and set up an appointment, he or she should be able to go over all this stuff, if he has no idea then you need to talk to the sales manager, and find somebody there to explain to you. As a good sales consultant this would never happen with my customers.

Shmelgy · 11-10-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleeper519

why do you say you have a 2011.5 model? It's not halfway through the model year, it's only friggin Nov 2010.

And still others say they are currently driving 2012 M3s?? (Ghost)

...help me here. what am i missing?

I think it refers to the fact that he ordered his car after the september changes. I ordered mine in July as a 2011 then the changes happened, so I guess the .5 is with the new changes (manual seats, 2 tone leather, blahblahblah)

Nition · 11-10-2010, 01:39 AM

I could answer 6 of your 7 questions the first day I got my car even before reading the manual. Either your sales guy was an idiot or you are. He should've explained all of this to you.

1. Servotronic adjusts the amount of steering assistance to suit the current speed, enhancing driver comfort by lowering the effort needed to turn the steering wheel. (Too lazy to type so I just googled this.)

2. Power.

Normal - Do I really need to explain this?

Sport - increased throttle response.

Sport plus - throttle becomes even more sensitive than sport mode.

3. DSC

DSC off - Traction control off.

DSC on - Traction control on.

M Dynamic Mode - Traction control is on but allows for a bit of slip.

4. D 1-5 - Automatic mode, D1 will give you the smoothest shifts and it will shift at lower RPM, D5 will give you the most aggressive shifts and will shift at higher RPM.

S 1-5 - Manual mode, S1 is smoothest shifts, S5 is most aggressive shifts.

5. I have no idea what you are asking.

6. Shift lights on/off/unchanged - Unchanged just means it is set to whatever was selected before, either on or off.

7. The M button allows you to activate M Drive with the push of a button. You can configure the settings for M Drive (shift speed, throttle sensitivity, servotronic, DSC etc..) with your iDrive.

11-09-2010, 04:05 PM	#1
Dice13 Captain 170 Rep 670 Posts Drives: 2011.5 AW E93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Many questions DCT Help me understand this car please.I hope this will help others understand things better also. I know I wrote alot but it will help many. 1- The Servotronic what is this, 2 settings normal and sport ? 2- Power- normal,sport,sport plus explain this please. 3-DSC ,off,on M Dynamic mode, what is this? I know we have DSC that we hold for 2 seconds and traction control is off,is this the same as on,off M Dynamic mode,im lost. 4- Drive logic, D 1-5, S 1-5 not sure what this is for I am not sure I feel any difference or what it is for. 5-I know we have D as it up shifts for you but downshifts very easy, then we have M 1-7 which is only way I have driven this car with paddles and gear shift. I can not figure out sport mode where it shift very aggressive up and down shifts. Ah as I was writing this maybe I answered 1 of my own questions the first question as I was writing and reading , for auto aggressive driving aggressive up and downshifting do you just put it in drive and set servotronic to sport. Then for regular driving for wife just set it to normal. 6- Shift lights why does it say shift lights on,off ,unchanged and not just on /off. 7-The M button will set all the above to my remote if I am correct. Thanks Vic
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aajami Brigadier General 432 Rep 4,567 Posts Drives: Space Gray '09 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Manhattan Beach, CA iTrader: (4)	Hey Vic, You should spend 10-15 minutes with your owner's manual, as it answers all of your questions above with the exception of #6. Regarding question 6. A lot of my M Drive settings also say "unchanged" as an option. This happened immediately after I went in for a DCT reflash, so I assume it's simply a side effect of updating the software. Did you have your car reflashed recently? __________________ '09 E92 M3: Space Gray, Black, Carbon Leather \| ZTP 2MK ZPP 2MT 6FL \| link 1 / link 2 Mods: M Performance exhaust \| ZCP retrofit \| Euro airbox \| GTS DCT flash \| JPN 240 ECU flash \| Euro LCI taillights \| CRT lip \| OEM alarm retrofit \| Space Gray bumper plugs \| BMW Performance: Mk. II spoiler / Mk. II non-electronic steering wheel / mirror caps / front grilles / side gills / intake louvers / emblem
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Dice13 Captain 170 Rep 670 Posts Drives: 2011.5 AW E93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	I read to manual but it don't explain things too well. My car is a week old 2011.5. The shift lights is m least worry. BTW I think the manual sucks,it could explain things better.
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geneatals Ninja 390 Rep 4,014 Posts Drives: 2019 530e Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: So Cal (SFV) iTrader: (3)	funny, I've read the owner's manual at least 3x already and know for a fact all these q's can and have been answered by reading the manual. Did you read the supplemental M3 w/ DCT manual? Can't wait til i take delivery of my car... __________________ 2019 AW G30 530e l ZPP l ZMP l ZDH Retired: 2016 F80 M3, 2012 E90 M3, 2008 535i
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Dice13 Captain 170 Rep 670 Posts Drives: 2011.5 AW E93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Flameeeeeee away boys and girls,I knew I could count on you. I just put my flame retardant suite on. Last edited by Dice13; 11-09-2010 at 06:24 PM..
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LemonOne Major 708 Rep 1,079 Posts Drives: ///Most Powerful Letter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0)	This thread is pure wow
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llis octane chick 79 Rep 1,187 Posts Drives: ex-M Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Colorado iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 BMW M3 ZCP [10.00] 2003 BMW M5 [0.00]	In all fairness, the Power button is not really explained anywhere in the manuals, except on the level of the Easy button.
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FruitCake Banned 88 Rep 1,680 Posts Drives: '10 E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (19)	hello, thanks to further strengthen the stereotype of BMW let alone M3 owner kthxbye
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Dice13 Captain 170 Rep 670 Posts Drives: 2011.5 AW E93 M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Sport program on page 61- push selector lever toward left from from position D, the sport program is activated, the engaged gear s1 us displayed in instrument cluster, the only thing my instruments cluster reads is D 1-7 or M1-7, S has not come up in my cluster. The power button gives you different throttle response, WOW I thought it was like a nitrous button . The manual explained that real well. Sport button the en gine reacts more spontaneous to accelerator pedal almost sounds like the power button but adds to quicker gear changes.
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Sleeper519 Captain 68 Rep 869 Posts Drives: 08 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0)	why do you say you have a 2011.5 model? It's not halfway through the model year, it's only friggin Nov 2010. And still others say they are currently driving 2012 M3s?? (Ghost) ...help me here. what am i missing? __________________ 2008 M3 Coupe / DCT // StopTech BBK 380/355 / Pagid RS29 / Motul / Apex Arc-8 / BFG R1S / Ground Control / MS filter / Performance spoiler / BPM tune // Road Atlanta 1:39.70 / VIR Full 2:10.87 / Barber 1:42.20
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justinluv949 Private 13 Rep 89 Posts Drives: 2015 M5 GRAY ON RED Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: HUNTINGTON BEACH iTrader: (0)	Vic, You bought your car from a dealership, you spent 60 to 70k on this car. Your salesperson should have gone over all these features, if he dident you need to call him and set up an appointment, he or she should be able to go over all this stuff, if he has no idea then you need to talk to the sales manager, and find somebody there to explain to you. As a good sales consultant this would never happen with my customers.
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Nition Second Lieutenant 20 Rep 235 Posts Drives: 2010 AW/FR E93 M3 Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I could answer 6 of your 7 questions the first day I got my car even before reading the manual. Either your sales guy was an idiot or you are. He should've explained all of this to you. 1. Servotronic adjusts the amount of steering assistance to suit the current speed, enhancing driver comfort by lowering the effort needed to turn the steering wheel. (Too lazy to type so I just googled this.) 2. Power. Normal - Do I really need to explain this? Sport - increased throttle response. Sport plus - throttle becomes even more sensitive than sport mode. 3. DSC DSC off - Traction control off. DSC on - Traction control on. M Dynamic Mode - Traction control is on but allows for a bit of slip. 4. D 1-5 - Automatic mode, D1 will give you the smoothest shifts and it will shift at lower RPM, D5 will give you the most aggressive shifts and will shift at higher RPM. S 1-5 - Manual mode, S1 is smoothest shifts, S5 is most aggressive shifts. 5. I have no idea what you are asking. 6. Shift lights on/off/unchanged - Unchanged just means it is set to whatever was selected before, either on or off. 7. The M button allows you to activate M Drive with the push of a button. You can configure the settings for M Drive (shift speed, throttle sensitivity, servotronic, DSC etc..) with your iDrive.
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