DINAN TO BUILD 630 HP M3 (628hp 5.7L V10)

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by lucid

BMW-M-MEXICO!!!

I'm surprised he hasn't posted here yet saying he wants it.

Dinan is going to have a couple of badass M3's out.

[Ronin13]

Originally Posted by bullmrkt

GB?

[GnokGnik]

The stroker kit is nice but too expensive. I would rather have a e90 m3 and a e92 m3 than one monster m3.

[ase2dais]

The News we've been waiting for to finally end the chipped 335 vs m3 debate.

Jason!
... you can close those threads now

[BimmerboyPate92]

Originally Posted by Sticky

The stroker for the V8 won't upset the balance and will make plenty of power. It will be a challenge to make the V10 work with DCT as well. Plus, when superchargers hit the V8 more power will be available for far, FAR less money.

I believe that with this generation of V8 aftermarket companies are going to be more inclined to engineer bi-turbo kits. BMW has already used twin turbos on their N63 V8 that is currently in the X6. And we know how technology trickles through every bmw once it is established. I'm sure aftermarket companies such as Hartge, AC or Alpina will take a cue from BMW. I agree though...I'd rather buy the turbo or supercharger kit than drop the V10 from a M6 in the car...that just makes it a m6 in a different shell to me.

As far as the stroker engine in subject, is the 5.7 liter v10 the same engine that will go into the next gen. M5 and M6...or is this engine from the current gen. M cars and just bored out?...does anyone know anymore on the development of this engine or it's origin? I don't know much about Dinan's stroker engines.

[Krank]

I would be far more interested in a quality twin turbo set up or even a supercharger rather than an oversized stroker engine.

I rarely question anything Dinan puts together, but I just can't see myself entertaining this engine-swap idea.

On that subject... anybody heard of any twin turbos in developement?

[elcarajo]

Krank - I gotta go with you and Porshapwr on this one. I'm all about Dinan and I've been real patient, but I bought the car for the motor, so I'm not likely to do a swap. I'm keen to see what the reviewers think of the V8 stroker kit when it comes out, but I think I might rather go forced induction.

Or both. Is that feasible?

[AustinL]

I don't see the point...

[Sticky]

Originally Posted by BimmerboyPate92

I believe that with this generation of V8 aftermarket companies are going to be more inclined to engineer bi-turbo kits. BMW has already used twin turbos on their N63 V8 that is currently in the X6. And we know how technology trickles through every bmw once it is established. I'm sure aftermarket companies such as Hartge, AC or Alpina will take a cue from BMW. I agree though...I'd rather buy the turbo or supercharger kit than drop the V10 from a M6 in the car...that just makes it a m6 in a different shell to me.

As far as the stroker engine in subject, is the 5.7 liter v10 the same engine that will go into the next gen. M5 and M6...or is this engine from the current gen. M cars and just bored out?...does anyone know anymore on the development of this engine or it's origin? I don't know much about Dinan's stroker engines.

The BMW v8 twin turbo is a completely different motor, the turbos on there have no application or correlation to the M3 V8.

A twin turbo kit will cost an arm and a leg and I doubt we will see one (or when we do the next gen will be out). The reason we saw turbos on th E46 was because it was an I6.

A supercharger makes far more sense for the V8 and would fit relatively easily in the space of the stock airbox (centrifugal that is). Twin turbos are a whole different design and the fact that BMW has a twin turbo V8 does nothing for this motor as they are two completely different designs.

The Dinan stroker is based on the stock V10 and it is not the motor going in the next gen M5, no correlation.

[yashBMW]

man this will be on heck of an M3
0-60 in 3 secs MAYBE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BRDHNTR]

Originally Posted by yashBMW

man this will be on heck of an M3
0-60 in 3 secs MAYBE!!!!!!!!!!!!

3 seconds? How do you think they are going to accomplish that, massive drag slicks at the back or by re-engineering the car to have AWD?

[Ced]

I need a huge raise!!! I can't handle all this good news.

[TSM330i]

Originally Posted by yashBMW

man this will be on heck of an M3
0-60 in 3 secs MAYBE!!!!!!!!!!!!

My old car (yes, I had to sell it) made over 540hp and weighed in at 3150lbs and would do about 3.5 seconds 0-60. I'm not sure how the M3 is going to be quicker than that when it's packing an extra 400lbs or so.

Oh, yes, it was a 2006 Z06.

[Minimization]

Originally Posted by Sticky

Definitely cool and very interested to watch the progress but Dinan will probably ask for $65,000 + your first born male.

The stroker for the V8 won't upset the balance and will make plenty of power. It will be a challenge to make the V10 work with DCT as well. Plus, when superchargers hit the V8 more power will be available for far, FAR less money.

I still think bolt-on forced induction with these types of engines is a big no-no.

[Sticky]

Originally Posted by Minimization

I still think bolt-on forced induction with these types of engines is a big no-no.

Why? Same nonsense was said about the E46 M3, it is all in the tuning.

[KonigsTiger]

Originally Posted by lucid

BMW-M-MEXICO!!!

I'm surprised he hasn't posted here yet saying he wants it.

Where?? What?? Where´s that engine?? I want NOW!! Hahahaha!!

Well, anyway, Dinan sure is taking his sweet time in developiing these things. Now, I think I would rather have a 500+ hp V8 (or a 580 hp turbo V8)than a heavy V-10. We´ll see. V-10 may be too heavy IMO and probably way too expensive as well. V-8 storker may be manageable in terms of economics.

[lucid]

Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Where?? What?? Where´s that engine?? I want NOW!! Hahahaha!!

Finally! You had me worried there for a second!

[KonigsTiger]

Originally Posted by lucid

Finally! You had me worried there for a second!

Hahaha!! Right here Lucid, just been overly busy! You know, work!! Sucks!!!

[lucid]

Originally Posted by BMW-M-Mexico

Hahaha!! Right here Lucid, just been overly busy! You know, work!! Sucks!!!

I don't know how much heavier the V10 is, but a FI V8 might not be a whole lot lighter either with the compressors, pipes, and possibly a heavier block. If you're concerned about weight, the stroker V8 would be the lightest alternative. But in Mexico City, I would assume FI would be highly desirable due to altitude effects.

[KonigsTiger]

Originally Posted by lucid

I don't know how much heavier the V10 is, but a FI V8 might not be a whole lot lighter either with the compressors, pipes, and possibly a heavier block. If you're concerned about weight, the stroker V8 would be the lightest alternative. But in Mexico City, I would assume FI would be highly desirable due to altitude effects.

100% correct Lucid, V8 stroker at sea level is the best I think, but given that we lose around 25% power output in and around Mexico City, FI becomes a more interesting option. FI may also be a less expensive option.

[BMW-videos.com]

that's awesome

[M3Lion]

depends on how expensive, does anyone know anything about price for the v-10? but supercharger or turbos would be better. the stroker would be overkill; weight, power