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View Poll Results: Does your M3 see track time? | |||
No way | 29 | 10.74% | |
Not yet, but maybe in the future | 94 | 34.81% | |
1-2 days per year | 32 | 11.85% | |
3-5 days per year | 48 | 17.78% | |
6-12 days per year | 41 | 15.19% | |
Greater than 12 days a year | 26 | 9.63% | |
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11-12-2012, 08:33 PM | #45 | |
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11-12-2012, 08:40 PM | #46 | |
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and yes brake pads and tires are consumables. and yes they wear out much more quickly on the track than on the street. what's your point? are you telling me you can afford to buy an expensive car like the M3 but are too poor to drop $1000 a year or so on pads and tires? no one said tracking is cheap, but unless you will be competing in 24h of nurburgring, or you really make minimum wage, going to the track will not break your budget. |
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11-12-2012, 08:50 PM | #47 | |
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what else? .. audi .. don't want AWD.. Merc - yuck.. and not good track cars.. Don't want to go back to the Japanese cars .. American.. Ford Mustang... hate the styling.. for the price point, nothing beats the M3. |
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11-12-2012, 08:55 PM | #48 |
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Spent wayyyyy to many years in a past life at the track racing/trackdays on two wheels. Want nothing to do with the track anymore. Purely a Starbucks coffee poser with my M!
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11-12-2012, 09:01 PM | #49 | |
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If my car was 5yrs old maybe I wouldnt give a crap about tracking it, but for now I prefer to use it spiritedly on the street, I in no way baby my car when driving it.. but I just dont want to accept the risks associated with going to the track |
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11-12-2012, 09:15 PM | #50 | ||
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As for increased wear, 3-4 track days per year isn't going to make an appreciable difference in how long your brakes and tires last, especially with a novice driver on stock equipment. Once you get better and/or if you run a track that's especially hard on brakes, MAYBE increased brake wear will be noticeable even at that frequency, but by then you'll be going more often anyway and thus might be looking at dedicated track pads. And the tires that wear quickly on the track are the extreme summer tires (AD08, RE-11, Ecsta XS), and especially R compounds (NT01, PS Cup), not the just-short-of-extreme summer tires like PS2, PSS, or ExtremeContact DW. Do yourself a favor and go attend a local track event as a spectator; it should only cost like $20, which is worth the price of admission just for the car porn and to talk to fellow enthusiasts. But your real goal for that $20 will be to catch a ride with an instructor or advanced run group student (if they're allowed to take passengers at that event) who rocks an E9x M3 -- then try to come back here and say that you don't feel you're missing out. Hell, it doesn't even have to be an E9x. My instructor has an E36 M3 with nothing but upgraded pads, a square tire setup, and modest suspension mods to achieve neutral handling, and he still blows me away with how fast he can go in that thing.
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im surprised! thought you were a junkie. ive been about a dozen times in the last year and the frequency seems to keep increasing. i will probably average at least once a month over the next year.
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Been once in the M3, about dozen times on 2 wheels. Planning on going once/month.
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With that said, it's totally true that you can't understand the capabilities of this car without driving it properly on a race track.
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11-12-2012, 11:33 PM | #55 | |
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I track 4-6 a year in my m3. I'd like to do more but in all honesty I'd get a dedicated track car and not track the m3 if i did a lot of track days. You don't need an expensive car to enjoy tracking. |
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I've done 12 track days this year. I'd love to get a dedicated car, but some of us have wives that are nice enough to allow us to have at least one "fun" car. My wife said I can get a dedicated track car, but I'll have to sell the M3 and this "track car" needs to have a baby seat in the back when needed. So E9X M3 it is!
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The risk is what makes the track enjoyable. Your relying on your skills and balls to keep from turning your car into a pile of junk. This car cost a lot more than 1000 a year to campaign whoever said that is high. More like 1000 a weekend.
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11-13-2012, 12:01 AM | #60 | |
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If I want to track, I will get a dedicated track car and mod it to be only that a "track car"..just not a priority for me right now. Last edited by Amri215; 11-13-2012 at 12:17 AM.. |
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I'll take a controlled environment with generally decent drivers over uncontrolled surrounded by people who should have never gotten a driver's license in the first place.
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I think you are confused about what the M3 was designed for. Its a street car that can be taken to the track, not the other way around. |
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Why do the general M3 forum threads get so hostile? I don't give a shit how you drive your car, but it is kinda low class to insult each other because someone doesn't track it or because you have a brand new M3 or whatever. FWIW, anyone in the 12+ days a year category is likely spending enough on fees, hotels, and tires to buy a second M3 anyway.
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