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Great work Shiv you have been very busy lately. Nice to see the kit is out for the M3 crowd now. You guys will honestly love what the PWM Meth + Procede has to offer.
I know I come from the N54 camp but I was one of the first to have this system running on my car and I cannot begin to explain how well this system operates together. I have had both the PWM Meth and Procede in my car for 10 months now and I have never had a single issue. No codes, no problems with the system, no issues with methanol flow and the fail-safe works very very well (I know from experience a few times). All around an outstanding product. I would highly recommend you try it out or ride in a M3 with this kit. It is quite an eye opening experience. |
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01-18-2012, 08:22 AM | #46 |
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[QUOTE=shiv@vishnu;11168830]Nope. You would mount the nozzles just downstream of the blower outlet (see attached pic)
Ahhh...that makes sense. Thanks!
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Hey Shiv,
Any special pricing for former 335i N54 Procede guys? If I had known you had plans for the M3 I would have held on to my Procede when I sold my car. Please PM me if you can hook me up again this time! Quid pro-quo special pricing for more independent dyno charts and a video. I'll deliver...here's proof:
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01-18-2012, 04:21 PM | #48 |
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I just sold my car and still have my rev 2.5 sitting in the garage. It would be AWESOME if I could just buy another harness and hook her up to the new to me e90 M3
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Any discount for previous N54 customers?
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01-18-2012, 08:30 PM | #51 |
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Yes, that is correct. The M3 firmware was designed specifically for the Rev3. It was a HUGE undertaking to make the Rev3 backward compatible with the Rev2 in the N54/N55 market. But it was necessary due how many N54/N55 customers we had that were running Rev2s. This isn't the case with the S65.
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The e9x M3 section of our website just went live this morning. Still a bunch more content to be added over the next few days. We are now taking orders and will be able to ship the first production run within 1-2 weeks. After we are exhausted of stock, the next shipment will take another ~2 weeks. Please email sales@vishnutuning.com if you have any questions Cheers, Shiv |
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01-24-2012, 04:20 PM | #55 |
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Are there any issues related to detonation in an NA engine as can be seen in an FI setup with a tune that is maximized for meth?
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01-24-2012, 05:42 PM | #56 |
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Haven't seen this asked before:
1) How does this play with factory warranty? Providing that someone will "unistall completely" the hardware and the software of the system, will the dealer still be able to see modifications that were done in ECU memory? 2) Do you have any comparitives between a "bone stock" M3 (including a stock exhaust) and one with only the Meth/Procede added to it? From what I've learned, a high-flow exhaust alone would add some (10whp) peak hp to a stock car. By dedcutive reasoning, would the Meth/Procede system only add 10-15whp to a stock car? Or does your graph indicate "stock tune" with exhaust already installed? I realize that there is more to a graph than peak numbers, I see that you guys have improved the engine's power nicely between 5.5k and 7K. Is there any chance you can show us completely stock M3 vs Meth/Procede. 3) what if you are caught in a snow storm, you run out of Meth/water mixture and you still need to clean your windshield while driving. IF you use windshield washer fluid (or of some idiot at a dealership puts windshield washer fluid into the resevoir). Can you potentially blow up the motor? Last question. I'm going to approach this from a "worse-case-scenario" perspective. I noticed your system is at 180psi .... thats a lot of pressure. Lets say for some unexplained reason, the meth injection lines rupture and the meth mixture squirts everywhere. Are there any ill-known side effects of meth to belts, hoses, etc? |
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For factory warranty: Yes you can completely remove the system. If you are just running the Procede and don't want to uninstall, you can clear the codes, select Map 0 (valet) and it will have no indications that the Procede is installed. The dealership can even do software updates.
The shift lights do work, but very confusing when meth is spraying. When meth is spraying the hazard lights (interior only) stay on, so when it's time to shift, the hazards flash and then go steady or go back to steady if meth is flowing. Confusing enough?
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01-24-2012, 09:51 PM | #59 | |
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"This FULLY INTEGRATED methanol system has no peers. It is fully controlled by the PROcede, not NOT an independent controller. Which means the the same computer that controls your engine also controls the Methanol Injection metering. As such, it operates in feed-forward configuration which yields perfectly safe and consistent results. The PROcede Engine Control Computer drives the injection solenoid and measures actual methanol flow. It is only when the internally calculated flow target is reached that the Procede makes the tune more aggressive by advancing timing and adjusting AFR. Which means that any unexpected stoppage of flow results in an immediate corresponding change in engine mapping." ...so if the meth runs out, the map changes. Of course, you could just run the meth with the stock programming also, and you will still gain power by running max stock timing. But, from what Shiv has stated, there is additional timing which can be added in the mid-upper range without detonation. This isn't in the stock map, but is safe to add in per his testing. I'm sure Shiv will correct me if I've misstated anything : ) |
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In the case of the s65 kit, the mapping we use when methanol is flowing is about as aggressive as what we've seen with off-the-shelf flashes. The difference being that the mapping is supportable (and results in power) when the Procede calls upon it (in presence of methanol flow). Whereas the aggressive mapping I've seen in the flashes only comes into play when running on race gas. All other times, the knock sensor is working overtime to keep the engine from pinging. Shiv |
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This is very cool! Looks like you put a ton of work into it. Nice work.
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