Anyone with a 2012-2013 wish they waited for the M4?

[xpunisherx]

So a co-worker of mine just bought the new M3. And I have to admit it is nice. It is fast...it is smooth...it is high tech...it's comfortable...

The exhaust note was HORRENDOUS at first, but once you put it in sport plus mode, the sound substantially improves and isn't so bad.

As we rode around in it (acting like hooligans of course...doing burn outs and flying down the autobahn at 160 mph) I began to wonder about my E92.

I just bought mine back in October. I began to wonder if I had made a mistake. Should I have sprung for the new model?

So I asked myself, "how could I characterize the difference between the two cars?"

If I had to wrap it up into one word...

The new F8x is more...

Refined.

We returned to the parking lot at our office, and as he parked his M3 next to mine, I took a few moments to look at them side by side. Both are attractive cars, and admittedly the F8X models have some nice lines.

But not once did I feel like my E92 looked dated next to the newer model.

The doubt about my own vehicle still lingered in my mind.

I got in the car, looked out of the window at m co-workers F82, and fired up my beast.

The S65 roared to life...

...and all doubt was immediately drowned out by that intoxicating V8 sound.

As I drove home for the day (feeding some speed to my car of course), I began to understand better what some of you all have been saying on this forum.

The E9x has "character!" It is a car that induces an emotional response when you drive or even ride in it (and not just the emotion of fear from going insanely fast). The car has personality.

And so I would define the new M3 (haven't experienced the M4) as refined...

...but bland by comparison.

It is an incredible machine, but it seemed like a luxury car first, and a sports car second.

My E92 feels the opposite.

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Now I admit that I haven't driven the new M3 yet, and so my comparison is potentially biased. I am considering just going to the local dealer to drive one so that I can confirm or deny my initial assessment. If I do, I will comment here.

With all that said...I am not sure I really have the desire to drive one after having ridden in it. I'll have to say that my curiosity/fascination with the new M3/4 substantially decreased after having ridden in it.

[SomethinNew92]

how the hell does the e9x look dated? are you on crack? The car looks 3x better than the f80 and the sound.. omg dont even get me started on the sound difference. The f80, f82 are jokes when it comes to sound. the f82 imo is better looking than the f80, so literally the f80 has nothing going for it..

[Shredicus]

OP should trade in the M for a freshly styled lexus abortion. Takes that ugly f8x spaceship design language to a whole different level.

[rjd598]

jesus christ i saw the title of this thread and knew the shit show that would start. way to create another thread to bash the new m3/m4

[Ashley Schaeffer BMW]

Originally Posted by rjd598

jesus christ i saw the title of this thread and knew the shit show that would start. way to create another thread to bash the new m3/m4

You seem upset.

[malrash]

Originally Posted by Ashley Schaeffer BMW

You seem upset.

I sent you a PM. I need to get in touch with your finance manager, John Andrews. Can you please help me?

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Ashley Schaeffer BMW

You seem upset.

i don't own an f8x if that's what you're trying to get at

[Law]

Originally Posted by rjd598

i don't own an f8x

My condolences.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Law

My condolences.

i'm chillin

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by xpunisherx

So a co-worker of mine just bought the new M3. And I have to admit it is nice. It is fast...it is smooth...it is high tech...it's comfortable...

The exhaust note was HORRENDOUS at first, but once you put it in sport plus mode, the sound substantially improves and isn't so bad.

As we rode around in it (acting like hooligans of course...doing burn outs and flying down the autobahn at 160 mph) I began to wonder about my E92.

I just bought mine back in October. I began to wonder if I had made a mistake. Should I have sprung for the new model?

So I asked myself, "how could I characterize the difference between the two cars?"

If I had to wrap it up into one word...

The new F8x is more...

Refined.

We returned to the parking lot at our office, and as he parked his M3 next to mine, I took a few moments to look at them side by side. Both are attractive cars, and admittedly the F8X models have some nice lines.

But not once did I feel like my E92 looked dated next to the newer model.

The doubt about my own vehicle still lingered in my mind.

I got in the car, looked out of the window at m co-workers F82, and fired up my beast.

The S65 roared to life...

...and all doubt was immediately drowned out by that intoxicating V8 sound.

As I drove home for the day (feeding some speed to my car of course), I began to understand better what some of you all have been saying on this forum.

The E9x has "character!" It is a car that induces an emotional response when you drive or even ride in it (and not just the emotion of fear from going insanely fast). The car has personality.

And so I would define the new M3 (haven't experienced the M4) as refined...

...but bland by comparison.

It is an incredible machine, but it seemed like a luxury car first, and a sports car second.

My E92 feels the opposite.

------

Now I admit that I haven't driven the new M3 yet, and so my comparison is potentially biased. I am considering just going to the local dealer to drive one so that I can confirm or deny my initial assessment. If I do, I will comment here.

With all that said...I am not sure I really have the desire to drive one after having ridden in it. I'll have to say that my curiosity/fascination with the new M3/4 substantially decreased after having ridden in it.

Give one a spin if you get a chance. It has character just not the same character as the E9x. Doing the valve mod on the exhaust and keeping the flaps open all the time really changes the note.

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Give one a spin if you get a chance. It has character just not the same character as the E9x. Doing the valve mod on the exhaust and keeping the flaps open all the time really changes the note.

I'm sure it has character and also think it probably has more than any of its competitors

[xpunisherx]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Give one a spin if you get a chance. It has character just not the same character as the E9x. Doing the valve mod on the exhaust and keeping the flaps open all the time really changes the note.

But it i drive it...

I'm afraid i will like it...

And if i like it...

I will have to buy it...



And then i will be broke! LOL

But i can see how leaving the valves open all the time would improve the sound experience!

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by xpunisherx

But it i drive it...

I'm afraid i will like it...

And if i like it...

I will have to buy it...



And then i will be broke! LOL

But i can see how leaving the valves open all the time would improve the sound experience!

Thats exactly what happened to me after I sold my 08 E90 for an 11.75 E92 I planned to 'keep for years'. More like 6 months lol.

[xpunisherx]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Thats exactly what happened to me after I sold my 08 E90 for an 11.75 E92 I planned to 'keep for years'. More like 6 months lol.

you are making me want to go drive one now...lol.

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by xpunisherx

you are making me want to go drive one now...lol.

The f80 is the way to go if dont mind the sound of the engine, or in fact like the sound. Thats one of the main things holding me back. I think the sound really bad, and sound worse when people put louder exhuast on them.

regardless i already picked and ordered my next car.

[persiancat56]

To me, I believe it is not about what is newer or more modern and tech savy. The E92 is a benchmark in BMW history. The NA v8 is something that will be never made again. If you ever get discouraged about your car, go on youtube and watch Matt Farah's review on the e92 m3 competition package, and i guarantee you will not be bored with your car.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Ezio

The f80 is the way to go if dont mind the sound of the engine, or in fact like the sound. Thats one of the main things holding me back. I think the sound really bad, and sound worse when people put louder exhuast on them.

regardless i already picked and ordered my next car.

Cold start or just sit still revving it definitely isnt the best. Under load WOT it sounds pretty awesome.

What is the next ride? GT350? (please dont say rcf)

[Ezio]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Cold start or just sit still revving it definitely isnt the best. Under load WOT it sounds pretty awesome.

What is the next ride? GT350? (please dont say rcf)

Stingray

[Longboarder]

There's a mineral M4 white coupe and M3 sedan in the parking garage of a client I have been going to recently. Just my opinion but they do not look anywhere near as good as the e92 comp package M3. The M4 actually looks like a 4x4 there is so much wheel gap it is bizzare. My e92 has very little gap with stock ZCP suspension and a little more neg camber. That's deal breaker right there for me.

[Denk]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

There's a mineral M4 white coupe and M3 sedan in the parking garage of a client I have been going to recently. Just my opinion but they do not look anywhere near as good as the e92 comp package M3. The M4 actually looks like a 4x4 there is so much wheel gap it is bizzare. My e92 has very little gap with stock ZCP suspension and a little more neg camber. That's deal breaker right there for me.

It's amazing what 10mm can do. M division will no doubt have a ZCP for the new generation, they're a savvy group...

[luckyse7en]

I'm not going to bash the new F8X platform, I think it looks great. But the E9X platform will be a timeless classic. Honestly I think the style is still relevant and will be for a long time. I can't see myself giving up my E92, but at the same time if I had the $$ and opportunity to buy a F80 M3, I wouldn't mind that either.

[8600RPM]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

There's a mineral M4 white coupe and M3 sedan in the parking garage of a client I have been going to recently. Just my opinion but they do not look anywhere near as good as the e92 comp package M3. The M4 actually looks like a 4x4 there is so much wheel gap it is bizzare. My e92 has very little gap with stock ZCP suspension and a little more neg camber. That's deal breaker right there for me.

You are just still sore jb4 f80 wiped your supercharged car out at those drag events.