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03-04-2008, 04:43 PM | #111 | |
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3562 3571 have never seen one for the sedan, although BMW says it will be ~25 lbs heavier... the US cars will be heavier, but not much...the only major change I'm aware of is the door reinforcement, and that may be standard now... options will change the weight.... I'm guessing the average car will weigh ~3620 give or take not bad since the euro C63 was weighed at 4040 |
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03-04-2008, 04:49 PM | #112 | |
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03-13-2008, 12:03 AM | #113 | |
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I have driven my Friends 997tt and its like its on rails on the corners plus the power is scary fast! Its really honoring to know that the lowest PRICED and the Lowest HP car in the comparison Held its own to the FULLEST and was the fastest in some areas of the track! Just for that it should have went to the M3 IMHO! It still came in 2nd which is Still fucking BADASS guys! That seriously means alot for being the car at the end of the line with the Lowest HP & Price! Im really happy with how the M3 Held it down!! Props to the M3!!!! Here are the Vids of the Challenge at the Track: Part 1: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Video/S...e/?&R=EPI-5565 Part 2: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Video/S...m/?&R=EPI-5574
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03-13-2008, 07:25 AM | #114 | |
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03-13-2008, 10:12 AM | #115 |
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The GT-R's numbers acceleration numbers are not "above normal". Any girl can hit those 0-60 numbers drinking a soda since the car has the launch control feature....
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03-13-2008, 10:23 AM | #116 | |
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Where I see cars like the GT-R and 997tt mashing most of the competition on the street is from any type of roll on. I could care less about 0-60 times, they are meaningsless, imo. Frankly, I do not even care much about any times from the dig as I do not drive that way. So, to me, any roll on from say, 10 or 20, even 50, whatever, is what excites me about straight line speed. Coming out of a corner, hard on the throttle and feeling that rush! This is where GT-Rs and 997tts excel. |
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03-13-2008, 11:09 AM | #117 | |
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Nice way of putting it!!! I agree!!
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03-13-2008, 11:20 AM | #118 | |
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03-13-2008, 11:34 AM | #119 | |
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I agree that the 997tt will be faster in any roll on. Again, another manufacturer's creative marketing hype that the GT-R will best the 911tt in every discipline. There are two reasons that the GT-R currently beats out the tt: it is very underrated and it has launch control with DSG. Even with DSG, I believe that the tt will beat the GT-R in most roll on sitiuations. BTW, I realize that both of these cars are tts, but there is only one tt in my book and it is not the GT-R. Even though I am buying the GT-R, I am not dilusional. Oh, I did learn today that my GT-R will be here by July at the lastest, maybe June. |
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03-13-2008, 12:25 PM | #120 | |
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I'm not taking away anything from the GT-R... it will crush any competitor within its price range and than some. Looking forward to see some pics of your new car in June/July |
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03-13-2008, 03:11 PM | #121 | |
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03-13-2008, 03:42 PM | #122 | |
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03-13-2008, 05:11 PM | #123 |
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VTG technology maybe in the next big thing to hit the turbo world but Porsche's application of it isn't showing the technology to it's full potentional. If you look at the graph from the above link you will see that while the 997tt has a much broarder torque range it actually only has more torque at the lower rev range, the GTR has more torque from beyond the 3600rpm point and this continues up the whole way to each of their respective rev limits. Also beyond this point (3600rpm) the GTR has for the most part the stronger hp figures as well.
You may say that in the long run VTG will prove to be the future but at the present it doesn't look to be showing any meaningful advantage over the traditional turbo. |
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03-13-2008, 09:46 PM | #124 | |
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I had the chance to drive a used GT-R the other day. Seemed much quicker than my M3! Wouldn't trade straight across though. I'm a couple of years from 50 and 205 lbs and simply don't fit in this car. I am 6 feet tall and not obese. The Nissan seats were cramped and the interior felt cheap. The transmission sounded like a kid shaking coins in a can. Ferociously quick. I almost bought one from Power Nissan in Chandler AZ for 3k back of sticker but I'm so glad I didn't! Quality of build is so much better in the Beemer. I'll stick with the BMW 1000rr for my real need for speed and keep the M3 for my everyday fun car!
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