Gintani or epic tune?

Jeff@autocouture · 01-20-2017, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by elim11

I need your tune w reduced burbles. It gets annoying on the track ....

Shoot them a PM ask for Alex

jamba · 01-20-2017, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by S65M

Dont waste you're money on BPM, i got the stage 2 BPM tune & it wasn't even all that. About a month after I ended up getting a Gintani kit & never been more happy.

care to explain what you mean by "all that"?

BPM generally gets good reviews on here, so curious to see why it didn't meet your expectations

BigRussia · 01-20-2017, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jhoneil

care to explain what you mean by "all that"?

BPM generally gets good reviews on here, so curious to see why it didn't meet your expectations

^
Im curious too, Ive heard nothing but good reviews on BPM stg2, that was my first choice. Then i was considering evolve.

tom @ eas · 01-20-2017, 12:12 PM

Randy @ Epic is regarded as one of the best tuners in the business, comes highly recommended. We've seen his work first-hand on the dyno.

Mmn710 · 01-20-2017, 12:37 PM

Seems like gintani is the tune to get.

Jeff@autocouture · 01-20-2017, 12:51 PM

glad to see everyone chiming in to support Gintani, great tune and group of guys,
i had it on my M4, and on our house hold e92 M3 as well

couldn't be happier

please check out the group buy if you are local

Sales@Gintani.com · 01-20-2017, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elim11

@ sales@gintani. Could you help me out with this. I am local.

Sent you a PM.

BPMSport · 01-20-2017, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jhoneil

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Originally Posted by S65M

Dont waste you're money on BPM, i got the stage 2 BPM tune & it wasn't even all that. About a month after I ended up getting a Gintani kit & never been more happy.

care to explain what you mean by "all that"?

BPM generally gets good reviews on here, so curious to see why it didn't meet your expectations

Not sure comparing a tune to a supercharger kit is a worthwhile comparison.

It's like saying I drove a P1 and my supercharged M3 "aint all that"...

We've got thousands of happy M3 customers out there that noticed a very worthwhile difference before and after...
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...784717&page=22

Software for an NA M3 is nothing like tuning a forced induction car...

S65M · 01-21-2017, 12:49 AM

My car only gained 8whp with test pipes & you're "Stage 2" tune. From a cost perspective that's $125 per 1 whp gain LOL. I did not include conversion rate to CAD.

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Not sure comparing a tune to a supercharger kit is a worthwhile comparison.

It's like saying I drove a P1 and my supercharged M3 "aint all that"...

We've got thousands of happy M3 customers out there that noticed a very worthwhile difference before and after...
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...784717&page=22

Software for an NA M3 is nothing like tuning a forced induction car...

jamba · 01-21-2017, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by S65M

My car only gained 8whp with test pipes & you're "Stage 2" tune. From a cost perspective that's $125 per 1 whp gain LOL. I did not include conversion rate to CAD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Not sure comparing a tune to a supercharger kit is a worthwhile comparison.

It's like saying I drove a P1 and my supercharged M3 "aint all that"...

We've got thousands of happy M3 customers out there that noticed a very worthwhile difference before and after...
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...17&page=22

Software for an NA M3 is nothing like tuning a forced induction car...

BPMSport · 01-21-2017, 01:59 AM

Considering you went to the length of posting a picture of that in the trash, I think there is more to the story. That's just a bit over the top. Your results are not representative, and there were certainly other factors involved that led to your result. You might want to use a recycling bin instead, it's better for the environment

TrAcK TRaP · 05-21-2017, 07:53 PM

And I thought N54 platform was bad with full of tuning and turbo war

But you guys are more educated and way nicer. You should meet Tony @ vargas

Peakboost · 05-25-2017, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by S65M

Dont waste you're money on BPM, i got the stage 2 BPM tune & it wasn't even all that. About a month after I ended up getting a Gintani kit & never been more happy.

I was about to say the same about BPM, I don't mean to bash anyone but it basically seemed like they only cleared the check engine light. Everything else power wise was identical to stock. That was odd considering I had removed both Cats and done a drop in macht schnell filter.

pbonsalb · 05-25-2017, 05:02 PM

I think 10 rwhp peak power from a tune is about all you will get, other than updated factory software as the base and any add ons you want like higher red line or cold start delete or top speed delimiter. The tuner who is going to make the most peak power is the tuner who is going to lean out the mixture the most and add the most timing within the limits of the fuel used, but that best peak power will be realized only under ideal conditions. There is no magic going on with these pump gas tunes for these AFR and Timing target ECUs.

Ab28 · 05-26-2017, 09:23 AM

I have the Gintani tune and ACM did it.

6k miles later, nothing but smiles and seriously terrible mpg

L4ces · 05-26-2017, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by lat77

I have the Gintani tune and ACM did it.

6k miles later, nothing but smiles and seriously terrible mpg

Why the terrible MPG? Is it the tune, your driving style, combination of both?

pbonsalb · 05-26-2017, 10:54 AM

Leaning out the AFR a little to add a few rwhp should not hurt mpg. Might help. These tunes should not be decreasing mpg. Same goes for the usual mods of exhaust, intake and pulley.

SYT_Shadow · 05-26-2017, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by L4ces

Why the terrible MPG? Is it the tune, your driving style, combination of both?

Usually, low mpg is due to a cretinous right foot

xander_g · 05-26-2017, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by becausephilchow

Just got flashed to Simon Motorsports; waiting to pick up the car in a day or two after everyhting else in done!

Please post a review when you get the car back. Very interested in what they have to offer.

L4ces · 05-26-2017, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

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Originally Posted by L4ces

Why the terrible MPG? Is it the tune, your driving style, combination of both?

Usually, low mpg is due to a cretinous right foot

Especially if the exhaust is pleasing. The right foot controls the instrument.

cvstar9M3 · 06-18-2017, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack14

Big fan of Gintani. Pulls far stronger through the full power band than my ESS did. I went for Gintanis burble tune but since my car is pretty much track only, Alex made me a custom tune with reduced burbles. Big thank you to him!

Can someone explain to me the difference between what Gintani offers for over 1k to what Alex does for an 1/8 of that price (Alex does the GTS software upgrade)? I've read tons on about how to get more power out of my e90M, specially that low speed sluggish feel it has. I have a gintani sport exhaust on now... don't know what else to do yet. Thanks.

SYT_Shadow · 06-18-2017, 03:03 PM

Get test pipes or an xpipe that's either catless or has hfcs. Then get a reputable tune.
EPIC, ESS and a couple more are reputable

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Mmn710 Private First Class 27 Rep 164 Posts Drives: BMW E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Long Island iTrader: (2)	Seems like gintani is the tune to get.
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pbonsalb Lieutenant General 7679 Rep 13,758 Posts Drives: 18 F90 M5, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England iTrader: (4)	I think 10 rwhp peak power from a tune is about all you will get, other than updated factory software as the base and any add ons you want like higher red line or cold start delete or top speed delimiter. The tuner who is going to make the most peak power is the tuner who is going to lean out the mixture the most and add the most timing within the limits of the fuel used, but that best peak power will be realized only under ideal conditions. There is no magic going on with these pump gas tunes for these AFR and Timing target ECUs.
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Ab28 Captain 676 Rep 794 Posts Drives: F87 M2C/E90 M3/E39 M5/128i Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: . iTrader: (3)	I have the Gintani tune and ACM did it. 6k miles later, nothing but smiles and seriously terrible mpg
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pbonsalb Lieutenant General 7679 Rep 13,758 Posts Drives: 18 F90 M5, 99 E36 M3 Turbo Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: New England iTrader: (4)	Leaning out the AFR a little to add a few rwhp should not hurt mpg. Might help. These tunes should not be decreasing mpg. Same goes for the usual mods of exhaust, intake and pulley.
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SYT_Shadow ///M Powered for Life 12760 Rep 11,154 Posts Drives: E90M/E92M/M4GTS/M4GT4/M6/X5M Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Greenwich, CT iTrader: (2)	Get test pipes or an xpipe that's either catless or has hfcs. Then get a reputable tune. EPIC, ESS and a couple more are reputable
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