An interesting story about oil consumption and our cars

[carenthuziast]

Originally Posted by 2pntrsrv

As I said before, I am new to the forum and the car itself...I did not realize the rod bearings were such an issue as i have found multiple threads saying that it affects less than 1% of all V8 motors made, yet oil consumption seems to be a common denominator across the board.

I guess I chose the wrong topic to approach. It was a 10 minute long conversation with a guy I just happened to run into, not an interview...plus I'm not sure how friendly he would have been if I started grilling him right away about detonation issues and complaints. I was genuinely curious about the engine oil consumption as my car was in for an oil change.

Now I have built a genuine relationship and rapport with the guy and feel comfortable sending him an email regarding the other issues. Had I berated him for the problems right away, I am not so sure this would be the case.

It is very easy to criticize someone after the fact as you have the luxury of hindsight.

I will keep everyone updated on the response to the rod bearing question and throttle actuators as well.

Ask him why BMW changed the rod bearing material late 2010 and the eccentricity and whether that addressed the rod bearing issue.

[m3jala]

OP. I believe it, though maybe "seating" doesn't need full on race car conditions to settle in properly.

I bought my car in October of last year, drove it across the entire US. Oil dropped from half to a quarter over 3000 miles. I get home, winter comes, put on the winter tires, drive like prius for the season, oil drops 1 liter in 1000 miles. Thought something was wrong with the car. Warm weather comes, I change the oil, take the car out for some highway driving and some hard pulls, I'm at 1000 since the last oil change and car is still at max.

So who knows!

[Solo_M_Tech]

I change my oil every 6k miles (motul 8100) and I don't have to add a drop.

I also abuse my car daily and track it twice a month. SO maybe there is some truth to the lab coat dudes story. That or I just have a fluke S65.

That said my bearings were completely in the copper at 89k miles so maybe flogging the car is great for oil consumption, but bad for bearing wear.. IDK.

Im just a monkey with some fancy training and a tool box.

[Helmsman]

I change at 5k, never added a drop in between over the last 4.5 years and 25k miles. Daily year around, live down town, so yeah most nanny driven

[Solo_M_Tech]

Originally Posted by Helmsman

I change at 5k, never added a drop in between over the last 4.5 years and 25k miles. Daily year around, live down town, so yeah most nanny driven

Then, in my opinion, oil consumption is merely a product of individual engine construction and luck. Happy to hear you're car is in good health!

[Mvy]

I tend to burn more oil on long freeway trips than I do driving around town. I do tend to drive harder on the street than cruising on the freeway so maybe some truth to the story.

[spazzyfry123]

Originally Posted by Mvy

I tend to burn more oil on long freeway trips than I do driving around town. I do tend to drive harder on the street than cruising on the freeway so maybe some truth to the story.

Agreed. Since I've moved, I have a long highway stretch to get to work now. I don't take the E90 to work but once or twice a week, but I have noticed that I am now having to add oil whereas I didnt before the move.

[BOOF-M3]

The number one tech in the world is never going to go against his bosses and answer any questions about bearings other than to say "I am not aware of this problem, I will look into it and let you know".

[///M Power-Belgium]

BS !
Think the BMW dude is a clown .
I'm sorry guys ...

[2pntrsrv]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

BS !
Think the BMW dude is a clown .
I'm sorry guys ...

Somehow I don't think clowns are offered this kind of position within BMW..

[deansbimmer]

If I donned my bmw attire with fully equipped pocket protector, how many people would approach me if I hung out at the dealership on a Saturday morning?

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by 2pntrsrv

Somehow I don't think clowns are offered this kind of position within BMW..

I'm pretty sure it's a kind of fake news .

[M43S7RO]

Exactly what I thought.

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

The number one tech in the world is never going to go against his bosses and answer any questions about bearings other than to say "I am not aware of this problem, I will look into it and let you know".

[Helmsman]

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

The number one tech in the world is never going to go against his bosses and answer any questions about bearings other than to say "I am not aware of this problem, I will look into it and let you know".

Woah, hold your horses here mate, no 1 in the US doesn't count as the world. At least not for us living outside the country of US...

[G80indy]

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/ester...ic-lubricants/

Use oil with less volatility

[2pntrsrv]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

I'm pretty sure it's a kind of fake news .

Ok, what would i have to gain by this "fake news" - i admittedly am new to the forum and the car so let me go ahead and put myself out there for all to criticize or "flame" as you guys like to call it? Why would I do that??
It's not like i claimed to be a master technician or a lifelong M3 owner..

I could really care less whether you or anyone else believes the story. It happened, i had the conversation, and the information that was told to me came from what i believe to be a credible source, unlike say, Oh i don't know, An internet FORUM for example...

I was under the impression that there was a shared passion and appreciation for BMW and the M3, but maybe I assumed too much as it would seem some are more concerned with criticism than actual knowledge.

I have no problem with someone questioning the story, I have offered my information and cited my source. If you have conflicting information from an equally credible source, i invite you to offer it up and i look forward to your rebuttal..

For those who still care about the topic...Email has been sent re: bearings and throttle actuators. I will let you know what reply is given.

[G80indy]

I look forward to the response on rod bearings.
Thanks

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by 2pntrsrv

Ok, what would i have to gain by this "fake news" - i admittedly am new to the forum and the car so let me go ahead and put myself out there for all to criticize or "flame" as you guys like to call it? Why would I do that??
It's not like i claimed to be a master technician or a lifelong M3 owner..

I could really care less whether you or anyone else believes the story. It happened, i had the conversation, and the information that was told to me came from what i believe to be a credible source, unlike say, Oh i don't know, An internet FORUM for example...

I was under the impression that there was a shared passion and appreciation for BMW and the M3, but maybe I assumed too much as it would seem some are more concerned with criticism than actual knowledge.



I have no problem with someone questioning the story, I have offered my information and cited my source. If you have conflicting information from an equally credible source, i invite you to offer it up and i look forward to your rebuttal..

For those who still care about the topic...Email has been sent re: bearings and throttle actuators. I will let you know what reply is given.

Not you . I'm talking about the statement of the BMW clown.

[GotV8?]

please keep us posted when you get a response. Thanks OP

[Scrippy]

Originally Posted by 2pntrsrv

As I said before, I am new to the forum and the car itself...I did not realize the rod bearings were such an issue as i have found multiple threads saying that it affects less than 1% of all V8 motors made, yet oil consumption seems to be a common denominator across the board.

I guess I chose the wrong topic to approach. It was a 10 minute long conversation with a guy I just happened to run into, not an interview...plus I'm not sure how friendly he would have been if I started grilling him right away about detonation issues and complaints. I was genuinely curious about the engine oil consumption as my car was in for an oil change.

Now I have built a genuine relationship and rapport with the guy and feel comfortable sending him an email regarding the other issues. Had I berated him for the problems right away, I am not so sure this would be the case.

It is very easy to criticize someone after the fact as you have the luxury of hindsight.

I will keep everyone updated on the response to the rod bearing question and throttle actuators as well.

Hey bud I wasn't criticizing you. I actually agree with what Mr. lab coat told ya. I see a bunch of mis understandings on here between people. Try and keep a thick skin when posting here because people will jab and run sometimes.

[BOOF-M3]

Originally Posted by Scrippy

Hey bud I wasn't criticizing you. I actually agree with what Mr. lab coat told ya. I see a bunch of mis understandings on here between people. Try and keep a thick skin when posting here because people will jab and run sometimes.

Yes I agree, it seemed obvious to me having been around a bit that you, Dean and Phil were directing comments at/toward the tech. Op will learn over time. Op I think you pretty much did what any of us would have done, you asked questions that you felt were pertinent and you shared your story. Good detective work, but now you need to bring home the cheese. The cheese being someone higher up at BMW admitting fault over the rod bearing issue. Kinda like VW with their issues that turned into a buyback program. I am fully prepared to wheel and deal with BMW on both of my M3's.

[2pntrsrv]

Originally Posted by BOOF-M3

Yes I agree, it seemed obvious to me having been around a bit that you, Dean and Phil were directing comments at/toward the tech. Op will learn over time. Op I think you pretty much did what any of us would have done, you asked questions that you felt were pertinent and you shared your story. Good detective work, but now you need to bring home the cheese. The cheese being someone higher up at BMW admitting fault over the rod bearing issue. Kinda like VW with their issues that turned into a buyback program. I am fully prepared to wheel and deal with BMW on both of my M3's.

I apologize, my comments regarding criticisms weren't directed at you per se...
it's all good on my end...