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when i wanted the m3, i was dying to have it and was looking and reading forums all the time. i got it, tracked it and DD it.. it's an amazing ride really.. but it doesn't feel like the first month after i got it. i went down and starred at the car every day for a few times after i got home. now sometimes i even park it outside and park the z4m in the garage. i do think it's worth the extra money.. sure there are many "better" cars than the gt3, but there are VERY few that can match the driving feel of it and the intoxicating engine sound in the cabin
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The only downside is I don't have one yet.
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Downside? You're kidding right?
My dream is the RS and thats rougher than the standard. You may have purchased the wrong car my friend. Perhaps the Turbo would have been the wiser choice.
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Again, not saying the E92 is not fast. It just doesn't feel very fast most of the time. I prefer the engine feel of the e46, gt3, RS4.
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Guys thanks for all your posts- it's given me a lot to think about.
Still on the fence. No forced induction for me though. If anything it will be just a few mods to make it more unique and to perhaps rev the performance up in the mean time. But I have a feeling the GT3 beckons soon...
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more torque is always welcome. i could not agree more. on street, i prefer my brutal X5M.
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04-16-2010, 05:27 PM | #31 |
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Get the .2 if you can. The differences are so vast, although typical Porsche revolutionary, that the .2 is like a completely new model not just a face-lift.
The suspension is dialed in beautifully with that sucked to the road feeling without feeling too harsh. Porsche did a marvelous job keeping the suspension very taut without the abrupt harshness over the sharp bumps. They added some components and experience from the GT2. So, the .2 actually feels more planted while offering a better daily drive in normal PASM mode. The added torque is definately noticeable over the .1, then add the countless other advances, DE mounts, CL wheels, beautifully executed venting rather than drop in pieces, bigger, lighter brakes; again beautifully executed make the .2 the only choice for me. Even the flywheel has been lightened. It's still a dual mass but lighter nonetheless. Last edited by devo; 04-17-2010 at 06:27 AM.. |
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In a GT3 you would shift slightly above peak power so that the executed shift would occur at peak power. Or, have the ability to rev past peak power while in a corner without the need to up-shift, thus keeping the revs at peak power. There's not much playing around with a peak power/red-line relationship when they occur at nearly the same rpm. You'll bounce off the rev limiter, lose power and may very well be in the wrong gear exiting a corner. The rev limiter is there to protect against unwanted up-shift over-revs but it's still not good for the engine to repeatedly shift past red-line. Porsche categorizes these revs in numeric order of revolutions past red-line. Any smart buyer wants to know how many and how bad; defined by a number. The RS reaks higher to gain the 15 hp over the .1. More revs more power when tuned correctly. The RS does not gain any torque and achieves its peak torque about 500 rpms higher than a GT3. I am not devaluing BMG's statements, but any car or object CAN get mundane after the initial purchase wears off. It's the cars that provide a lasting enjoyment over time that define greatness. For me, I'm confident that car will be the GT3. Yeah, my turbo was very fast but became a bit too boring, a GTR would also be very fast but I also think it would suffer the same fate. You can't listen to what others say about what cars can be DDs. A DD to me may be very different to your needs, etc... So, it does drive me nuts when people say this car can or that car can't be a daily driver. You'll decide what works for you, but don't short change a car like a GT3 for the wrong reasons. Good luck with your choice. Last edited by devo; 04-17-2010 at 06:41 AM.. |
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My next car is without a doubt!! Okay, my next sports car as I need to get a truck/tahoe for work. I hope to be able to pick up a used 7.1 GT3 in the next few years as a track/backroad rally tool, with my current M3 as a DD. But if I cannot afford both, the M3 is getting kicked to the curb. GT3 is god!!!
Those worried about maintenance costs need to factor in that the 7.1 GT3 engine came from the block used in the 911 GT1. That engine is f***ing bullet proof. Even the current ones are tough as all GT3 engines are based of racing cars first, unlike the M3. Of course, you don't get the free maintenance warranty as with the M3, but I'm about to my wits end trying to get the stealerships to performs the work I ask for. That and I'm rapidly apporaching 50k miles
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I didn't read any mention of any track time for the OP. If you're not going to track it a few times a season, why buy the GT3. The suspension is so stiff, you'll need a kidney belt to drive it on the street as a daily driver. The GT3 looks great and it is great on the track but not as a daily driver.
If you want to spend the money, get the Dinan stroker motor. 500+ horsepower should fill your desires yet you'll still have the practicality of the M3.
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A Dinan stroker sounds great but try getting that money back after a couple of years and use. One of our own members sold his Dinan E92 M3 with many more cool go fast items to get his current .2 GT3 and could not be happier. Last edited by devo; 04-17-2010 at 10:01 AM.. |
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However, the decision IMO has a lot more to do with what emotionally you want. A sports car (P) or a Performance Coupe. Two very different beasts. I have always wanted both cars and felt that the end point would be a P car for me. However, I am also a golf nut and I need space for my clubs so they can be with me all the time should a game become available. I assume you are not a avid golfer or if so you only play at your home course. As said before, it is really about want you want not want the performance is since we all know the GTS is a great car with no real downside outside of your daily normal living requirements. All in all, keep the M3 if you can afford it and get the GTS. Best of both worlds. |
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Just hanging on to my money at the moment. GT3 and GT-R are the only cars that tickles my fancy right now but the Porsche is a bit too pricey. I really want .2 and the GT-R I'm not sure I want to commit to DCT as I really think as fast as it is I will get bored.
So hanging on to see what the M1 will be like as that might be the perfect fit if they go back to build a drivers car and being what M used to be. It's unfortunate because I think the E92 is one of the best looking cars from a emotional perspective. Better the a GT3. Oh well.
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Get a Porsche 997 Turbo...unless you track every other week or something. The GT3 is the best Porsche, it actually rides really well for what it is, but the Turbo is the flagship 911 though...I am drooling already.
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WTF?lol
GT3 is built for track, if you are a track whore, dump your M3 and get the GT3! on the other side, M3 is better for daily use and track usage combined. If i had the money, i would get both, lol
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Hmmm, Gt3 in stock form for sure. Non-stock may be a different story altogether.
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I do plan on some track days, but still need the comfort for some spirited street driving and road trips. It looks like the .2 GT3 could be that car.
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