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I agree with all of your points. The BMW is a great car, but how hard would it of been to put in the GTS engine, and price it around 3-4 grand more? The C63 AMG is a couple grand more then the M3, equally loaded. Putting in that GTS engine would of made it future proof for years to come. The reason I would of opted for the Cayman S is because BMW is milking the M division. The orange peel on the car is horrendous. The interior quality while better than the regular line, still leaves more to be desired. The M3 is BMW's most reliable car. If you look at a couple of the most recent threads, people seem to be complaining about the fender and the hood being misaligned, cars going into limp, etc...If they had put in that 4.4L engine. I'm not saying that the M3 doesn't have enough torque for day to day duties. I ride a sport-bike and high revving is what it lives for....17k redline. The point I'm trying to make is that if BMW had put in the effort to tune the engine with 310-320 lb. ft. of torque then the car would of been perfect. If they had put in the GTS engine, then the e9x M3 would be the BEST M3 in history in my opinion. The weight of the M3 doesn't help it's case. ~3700 pounds is sad. I like cars that don't make me feel like "What if they had done this or that to it?" The M3 for me offers what I want and want from a car, but the C63 AMG coupe is a car to watch. It offers the power for day to day, and the same usability as the M3. The C63 AMG BS is going to blow anything that BMW has out of the water. |
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Yeah, re-read the comments on the Cayman S in my post and reworded a bit (before you replied)... on many tracks, especially tighter ones, the Cayman would be the better car.
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Every magazine or video review i've read or watch have pointed to the 1M turbo engine as the star of the package. |
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See that happens on the track, it will overheat and enter limp mode
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Dude, seriously, why are you even getting an M3?!? Post after post all you are doing is bashing the car and how "cheap and half-assed" it is. PLEASE go buy something else......and i'm sure you'd complain about that too, jeez. |
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BTW...dont care if the 335 or whatever it is is faster I dislike F/I for many reasons: Possible boost leaks(more parts can go wrong), lousy exhaust note(have you guys heard the X5M/X6M?), I like my sports-sporty car to rev high.
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Again, I'm not debating that BMW couldn't have made the car even better (like by adding the GTS engine, etc) what I am trying to suggest to you is that you are dreaming if you don't think making money drives ALL of these decisions and as long as BMW continues to build cars that set segment standards (well, at least the M3) then that is what they should be measured against... Not some idealistic "perfect" car that would be either not profitable for them or priced out of this segment. I guess what I'm really saying is that your expectations are not realistic and that the M3 is every bit the car it should have been to compete against other cars in it's segment.
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See link http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...alkaround.html The above link shows you how BMW have strengthened the rear sub frame to avoid the E46 M3 fiasco thats plaguing every owner. The M3 is the tits and rightly so you drive the nuts of the car and..that puts a LOT of stress on the suspension components. With the E9X M3-BMW a lot more attention to the under body of the car hence the added weight due to strength. |
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I like it when drivers compare their cars (335, 1M, 135, S5, etc) to our M3. It says something about M3. Except for 911 and C63 I don't see many M3 drivers comparing us to them
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maybe hotice should have gotten a used GTR
but wait you got laid off and still bought a M3? that's one hell of a car to buy after being laid off..
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I thought it was an m3 owner who started this thread...
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