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04-13-2011, 03:15 PM | #45 |
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Dear BMW,
Please bring the M3 GTS to America. We promise we'll buy them. Sincerely, Captain Kirk
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It will not be called CSL even if they didn't call it GTS... they will call it SSL
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No they won't. You can thank the DOT for that. It would cost BMW too much to have this car tested, certified, etc. to bring it over here. Same reason we didn't get the GTS or the CSL.
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I won't. And I'd laugh who does buy it, unless they already have 10 cars including Porsches, Ferraris or similar.
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Aw, c'mon. You'd WANT to.
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This is the coupe, not the sedan, but look at this Fifth Gear video with Vicki ...
(Sorry, I can't seem to get the YouTube embed to work.) It seems that most consider the sedan a pig compared to the coupe. Not so. When optioned out I think the sedan is only 20 lbs heavier. It's certainly true that one sedan can be just as light, even lighter than a coupe, depending on options. So, I can see getting into a "lightweight" (again, a relative term when talking about E9x M3s) sedan. If it's anything like the coupe GTS then I'm all for it, assuming it comes to the US. Cheers.
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Sure I'd want to. I want a C63 AMG too just for that insane engine. But I won't buy that just like I won't buy a GTS when there's a better car for the money (GT3).
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However, the marketing and sales they have seen with the e92 make it "worth it" for BMW. I don't see the gripe with a sedan racecar. If someone wants to bring their toddler to the ring in his child seat, let him. |
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Very nice for the people who paid the increadable high price tag for the M3 E92 GTS and now see the parts are used for an E90 also. And most GTS parts are also used on the 1M safety car.
The asking price for the GTS was so high. I think most buyers thought they bought something you won t see again for a few years time. You thought wrong guys. Bmw has only one agenda. MMM which stands for Make More Money. |
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All I hear is I can't afford the e92 GTS, and I won't be able to afford this one.
To the people saying the M3 should have been this way all along - really? You would pay this kind of premium for a car badged M3? Or perhaps it should still cost $57K? C'mon people performance comes at a price - deal. For all those that will never be able to afford a car like this (which is 99.99% of people on this forum) be grateful that BMW is developing technology for this car that will someday translate into the regular, ordinary M3.
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But the demand for a pure M3 explains exactly why BMW can and should sell the CSL and GTS models - for the purists. Unfortunately for most this is way out of their budget - so perhaps a legitamate gripe is that there is not a lightweight M3 between the standard M3 and GTS which would also fall in between in price range. Also adding CF that would keep the M3 in 58K range is very unlikely given the cost of it. The only way BMW can add significant CF is to start mass producing that too, which appears to be the purpose of the next M3 (and possibly the showcase point of the e90 GTS).
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no one will buy this except collectors (ie people that are friends with BMW and have deep pockets). For the price it would make more sense to get a F10 M5 instead. Just like the 1M this is another case of "too little, too late".
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You have to be stupid to think that BMW will not sell every single one of these cars Just because YOU do not want one, doesn't mean someone else doesn't want one (M purists). Oh yea you know, those M3 GTS coupes are just sitting around on dealer lots (sarcasm). More sarcasm... all those buyers are just idiots who are dumb because they are buying a stripped out track focused M3 with more power and less weight... all idiots! Why didnt they just buy a veyron instead, or better yet a NASA rocket, the power/weight ratio of the M3 is pathetic compared to the NASA rocket.
Last V8 M3 with much more lightweight materials, why wouldn't you want one. Count me as one who would love to get one, just please offer it with the full range of M3 colors, not just 3 colors the way the 1M is sold.
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How is buying a heavy, less track oriented F10 M5 makes more sense? Relative to what?
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Why not make this car for the mass M3 market but don't run the price up to $100K. At that point get a 997.2S and use money saved to buy a DD.
I realize BMW and Ford have different philosphies but look what Ford did with the Boss 302. They made a competition model that only costs 3-8k more than a premium GT. Dave
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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You are obviously making a judgement based on your opinion of BMW M, that they are overcharging and underdelivering? I've owned a few M products over the past 10 years, and not one of them has underdelivered, so not sure where you are getting this wild speculation from....
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