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On the other hand, pepper spray isn't exactly the most dangerous substance, though definitely a scary one. Why scare a bunch of kids in an elementary school? |
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+1 I agree. It's completely her fault. What's scary is soon her son will be capable of killing someone and potentially nothing will be done to treat his mental state between now and then...
On the other hand, pepper spray isn't exactly the most dangerous substance, though definitely a scary one. Why scare a bunch of kids in an elementary school? |
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well the kid and the mom are getting their 30 seconds of fame from GMA
maybe they will make a reality show out of it....lol
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They shoulda kicked the shit out of his face. EDIT: I do have kids. And if they ended up like this, I'd kick my own self in the face. Pepper spray is fucking weak anyway. I don't understand what anyone is bitching about. He's lucky he didn't get a baton. |
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Yeah I don't know what the big deal is really. The kid looked fine. It's not like they shot him in the leg or something. The OC spray method probably helped to teach him a lesson. On a side note, easy on the tags boys. Some of the tags have been dispatched of. It does not matter if you attack someone by way of post or by way of tag, it is still an attack. Consider that holding a new component of E90post common law.
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I'm a little over 16 (a bit over three times over) and have been able to buy my own cars since 1970. I also have 27 years law enforcement experience. And my own children (at least, I assume they are).
One of the most common fallacies in the 'civilian' world is that any cop can take on any resisting subject and physically subdue same without causing harm to either, all by himself. If he uses any force, he's a brutal bullying bastidge; If he tries and fails and/or gets hurt himself in the process, he's a p*ssy. If it takes more than one cop to do the job, they're a brute squad. One of the most common TRUTHS about subduing someone, and I mean anyone, who doesn't want to BE subdued is that causing injury is common. If you've never been in a fight of any kind beyond a simple schoolyard pushing match, you have NO idea what physically subduing another human entails. This 8-year-old is quite capable of resisting being subdued; Just how much resistance he can put up is up to him, and he is only limited by his pain threshold--which, by the way, is what 'subduing' someone physically means: Finding out how just much pain they're willing to endure to avoid being subdued. A stubborn, angry child can choose to take an awful lot of pain, or go to the extent of suffering a greenstick fracture of a limb in a frenzied tantrum where mental control has been lost. I have to admit, being 'sprayed' is a miserable experience. It passes, within minutes. Getting a dislocated shoulder, a broken arm, or fractured wrist is likewise miserable, and takes a lot longer to 'pass.' You choose--you want me to grab your little hysterically-struggling darling and tie him into little knots to calm him down, or give him a little dose of pepper spray that takes his mind off the tantrum (and pointed stick) and inspires him to peaceful cooperation? I go with the pepper spray. |
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In this case, it worked. Junior lived with no permanent harm, no cops got injured, and his momma got her 15 minutes of fame. All's well that ends well. |
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So I can't look forward to more bav tags?
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I do...3 boys...and if any of my kids acted this way, the pepper spray would be the least of their worries...
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If I had children I would obviously not want them to be pepper sprayed. However I think if it was a choice between possible injury to the cop (never 0%) and just an hour or so of irritated/painful eyes of my kid that is enrolled in a school for kids with issues I think I would choose the latter.
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I have a 18 month old daughter.
I would be devastated if someone pepper sprayed her in the face, but I would be even more devastated if I had raised a monster like that little kid. His issues far exceed just being angry that day. He has mental issues, I am no doctor, but he appears to be bipolar. Someone needs to tell that Mom to wake the hell up and get her son some help before he he is either in jail for murder or dead himself!
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I only have one son and I'd put him out myself if he ever tried to pull this kind of crap just for attention. However, i think this kid has some sever personality disorder and his behavior can not be simply dismissed as part of being a spoiled brat. Still, it does not relieve the parent(s) from their responsibility of making sure their offspring is not a menace to society though. If he's sick in mind, get him the care he needs. Don't let others suffer from your laziness and lack of care. |
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or maybe while you're (the babysitter/whomever) trying to subdue the unruly child he breaks something...now you're being sued for child abuse and could face jail time because he's a little shit and has bad parents. FUCK. THAT. there's too many stupid rules and laws out now to protect stupid people.
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Ok Solefad - come back in. Many posters with kids. Response please
I agree with SandyDog's response (and btw SandyDog - I *always* travel at the posted speed limits for sake of clarity - anybody who tells you otherwise is probably being honest...) Re-iterating my point - lack of corporal discipline has caused this, and this needs to be re-instituted in North America. Wish I could go somewhere where the government didn't feel it had the power to meddle in my own personal life. |
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