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Also even if half the owners of stroker cars even knew how to drive their cars hard enough to even possibly notice the supposed extra weight on the front of the car they would still get trounced on the track thats guranteed. You're not even dramatically changing the weight bias, that statement is absurd were not talking adding enough weight to front of the car to change the balance to something silly it will maybe be at worst 53/47 (stock is 52.2/48.8 or similiar )and if you were really into having a lightweight cars you probably wouldnt have bought an M3 in the first place so gimme a break. Bottomline you're not ever going to see a stroker M3 beat the times of a FI M3 on any track cept maybe an Autocross or something where you can't even use the power of the S/C and my opinion that doesn't even count. Also who cares if you get an exhaust and all that as part of the cost in a FI kit, it would still make more power and destroy the stroker car besides for the money you're saving you can buy all that and still have money left over so how is that more valueable? are you serious lol? WTF does American muscle have to do with FI are you really being serious? All I know is the strokers really have good tourqe (for a small rpm range) and thats about the only positive it has over a Full Bolt on M3. And where it makes tourqe isn't nesscessarily better for the track if you're high in the rev range. Anyway to the OP get a FI kit or just go full bolt on if you're gonna have your car for life or over 100k miles and dont want to rebuild then which alot of people would do anyway after having the FI on a stock motor for that long. I personally think If I'm dropping over 25K+ on a motor it better be able to do 10's And that will never happen with a stroker alone. |
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Tightie's Gpower kit may still be for sale- with the warranty
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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If you put all the available bolt-ons you'll be right around 490-500crank hp.
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I definitely would like more bottom end torque. Neck snap and push you in the seat. Around town I would like to have torque for almost any gear. Sometimes find myself in the wrong gear.
I don't care about loud exhaust, straight race pipes and all that. If I could make it more of a sleeper then Id really like that as well. Most people go bananas and try to catch up the F430 Scuderia all the time. I think it would be funny like a member with the RD stroker said, "its funny to see the looks on the vette drivers faces when they arent catching up to what appears to be a completely stock m3" I dont race on the street, but my quest is for torque. Quote:
I blame the ZR-1 in my quest for more torque. Yes I could have made that car insane. I know i know. But I love the workmanship of the BMW
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That is pretty amazing. I respect that. You should definitely modify your M3 and don't listen to "why you want to modify your M3?". Afterall, that is what tuning is all about that you make your car distinctly your own with characteristics injected you would like to see in there.
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However, my real point, in a long post, from which you only quoted a sentence or two, is that there is no explaining why people do what they do to OEM cars. It's not about "sensible," or what performance you can get for less. As I said (or tried to say), it's about what makes the hobby fun for people like us.
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you have great taste in cars so im sure you will make a great decision in terms of the direction you ultimately choose Personally, I would do an ESS supercharger kit or custom turbo |
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And you don't think they'll call your M3 a glorified 3 series? As far as neck snap, that's more torque, than hp. I've been chasing that feeling since I was a teenager when my girlfriend had '67 427 big block 'vette. There is just nothing like it for a first impression, but it's funny how quickly accustomed one becomes to it. If you track, those modified evos will eat your lunch if you leave the rest of the car semi stock. Have you thought about "rally cats" for another dozen+ hp and wider/ r-rated tires for more grip under hard acceleration? |
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I know those evos are incredibly fast, but so is a mustang cobra with a pulley and exhaust, so is a twin turbo c6 for far less than a ZR-1. etc etc. This isnt about who I can beat for the money, If i wanted to beat everyone id get back into riding Ducati's Back on topic, havent heard anything about the ESS supercharger kit and I am also following VF closely on their install. Does anyone with a supercharger have any regrets? JonMartin !! Thank you for your long post above lol. Spoken truly from someone who has shelled 25k out of their pocket. Thats the type of response I was hoping for. Someone who's been down the supercharger road. Realistically how much do you think it would cost me for 500whp / 400 ftlbs torque. S/C and exhaust and tune with autotalent?
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Since there are no stroker vs supercharged m3 videos, maybe someone knows their best trap times. I am curious the trap times for the supercharged and stroker M3's compared to stock.
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on the 21st there is a private drag day...i know some fully modded N/A m3s and some SC'd ones will be there.
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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LOL its really not that serious. I don't really care to be honest I just say what I feel is the truth.
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I noticed you have the 3f front lip. I am looking for one to get for my car!
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get a dodge viper
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Custom turbo? Where are you going to fit turbos into this car? There is literally no room unless you want to start cutting the body of the car and I really doubt people will start cutting the body of their brand new 70k car.
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