BMW M Competition trim is being eliminated

[6SPDG82]

For me driving a manual transmission sports car is just sublime…I’m sad future M car owners won’t be able to experience just how awesome it is.

The engagement, turn in, lighter weight, drivetrain simplicity, heel and toe (if you turn off rev match), nailing perfect shifts on the racetrack or drag strip…It’s the best.

[buckybadger]

Ways to charge more $$$$.

[rideontwo]

Originally Posted by buckybadger

Ways to charge more $$$$.

Nope that's market adjustment and inflationary pressure . Rest assured plenty of BMW drivers lined up to buy M's.

In reality there is very little competition. So BMW will do what they need to and people will keep buying.

[R8EDM]

Originally Posted by 19M5

In all honesty, how many people here actually know how to drive a stick? Of all the people I ever met, besides me, I think I’ve known only 4-5 others. And they were “older in age” like me! lol

33 here, and just took delivery of my ‘26 G80 6MT at the end of August. I specifically purchased this vehicle for the manual.

I’ll be sad to see the manual go away, but also glad that i’ll have one of the very last manual M’s produced.

That said, i’ll be way happier if the manual continues.

[g80_lucy_]

It’s mindblowing that so many people on here are still debating if there will be a manual offered in the next generation of M2/3/4. BMW confirmed several months ago that the next generation wouldn’t be offered with 3 pedals.

The last G8X base to roll off that production line, is going to be worth a fortune. It’s the end of an era, and what a spectacular era it was.

[Terras14]

For the F95 X5M, BMW already didnt offer the base model for veey long. It starts at competition.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by maticCRO

Exactly this, my man, eveywhere in the world, kids /girls 18y old learn how to drive manual in the first 30 or so hours with an instructor, you could teach a monkey in 3months to operate the clutch and gear lever...

I would argue there's a differences between being able to drive a manual and drive a manual well. Rev-matching and heel-toe take commitment.

[V-Eight]

What BMW needs, as someone of you already wrote, is to erase each improper use of the M badge in the lineup. M performance/lite models shouldn't be offered anymore in my opinion.

M just for the real M cars please.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Just marketing speak. The Competition was invented because BMW could make money with it.

I don’t mind the competition label vs competition sport v non comp manual.

However, the M light brand dilution should stop. Make it a 340i not an M340i. Same with the Z4 and the iX etc.

This proves they want the manual to die. Which is a tragedy

[secretariat]

I learned to drive a MT on my mother's VW bug. She was not pleased.

[8-Ball]

I’m a fan of manual transmissions and have had several. There are pros and cons

Pros- I think they help with certain maintenance needs e.g. less wear on the brakes if you drive them right. And fuel for that much.
Cons- remote start, which I love. I saw someone who had a stick with remote start and it went thru a store window.
And I sold my last manual (Corvette). Why? Scenario… you’re on vacation with your othrr half and you break your clutch leg while skiing. Uh oh who’s driving home. I can drive some manuals without the pedal but most can’t and it ain’t always easy.

[apoirier594]

Originally Posted by RPM33

Enough. The manual transmission cannot handle the torque. Why is this so hard to understand?

Be thankful that car companies are rolling back EV initiatives.

This statement usually gets on my nerves. Not from you, but the manufacturers. The stick is totally handling the torque. Even on older modified models with more power, and current modified G80s with more power. If they wanted to beef up the transmission they could too.

Honestly sounds like an excuse from the manufacturer to streamline the process and save $$ in manufacturing, design, etc.

[Phillies8008]

I don't have a problem with the current M designations:

Non-M: regular cars, not particularly performance-oriented.

M+number: in between regular and "full" M – more performance-oriented, but without the extreme M tuning, etc. Probably the best choice for most "enthusiasts" and daily use.

"Full" M: the full boat, comfort, etc. be damned. For those that value performance over everything else and/or need to preen on social media.

Outside of ego and gatekeeping, I really don't see what the problem is. If you're driving a "full" M, anyone who cares knows. But the truth of the matter is that 98% of the populace couldn't possibly care less.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

I don’t mind the competition label vs competition sport v non comp manual.

However, the M light brand dilution should stop. Make it a 340i not an M340i. Same with the Z4 and the iX etc.

I can understand that. I like the US spec M340i because I comes with a factory LSD and proper sport brakes out of the box unlike the US spec 330.

[Slow M3]

[QUOTE=Phillies8008;32439026]

M+number: in between regular and "full" M – more performance-oriented, but without the extreme M tuning, etc. Probably the best choice for most "enthusiasts" and daily use.


The in between has always existed and offered more performance over the standard but not as much as the full blown. And they’ve done so for 40yrs.

The goal of adding M to everything that’s not an M division developed car is to muddy the waters. I don’t think BMW even breaks out sales numbers by full blown M anymore, they’re all lumped together to boost their numbers.

M now stands for Muddy reporting as far as I’m concerned.

[Kbpolaris]

Originally Posted by LemonOne

Please get rid of M Peformance models too!
Make M special again!

Then they should probably stop making M SUV’s while they are at it 😊

[///bproden]

Where are you guys getting manual is done? I’d think the base model would be specifically a manual. Cs, now standard auto and all comp pack

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by 6SPDG82

What? So effectively this means no more manual transmission?

Exactly what I sadly surmise......

[ShocknAwe]

Competing for sales not soul. And keep ruining their drivers cars. Do they even have one now? Maybe the 2er but it's bloated now too.

They're not going to make small chuckable things with a manual, a reasonable powerband to enjoy, and fun enough without going to prison on the street.

I'll always be a big BMW fan but I wouldn't even consider buying a new one.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by bandwagn

Comp or no Comp, manual is dead from a technology perspective more so than any other reason - it just isn’t compatible with today’s modern safety and comfort features.

The Manual is Dead - Long Live the Manual

The world needs to be on their cell when driving... and the industry is obliging

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Teddyknockout

I only purchase manual vehicles

..same

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Competing for sales not soul. And keep ruining their drivers cars. Do they even have one now? Maybe the 2er but it's bloated now too.

They're not going to make small chuckable things with a manual, a reasonable powerband to enjoy, and fun enough without going to prison on the street.

I'll always be a big BMW fan but I wouldn't even consider buying a new one.

The current 2 series is essentially a slightly better E92 M3 without problematic rod bearings. The G87 M2 is an amazing car.

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