Try out the new beta site for M3Post. You can read more about what's happening here
BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Track / Autocross / Dragstrip / Driving Techniques
 
European Auto Source (EAS)
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
      05-19-2025, 07:47 AM   #45
kolosy
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
3485
Rep
3,630
Posts


Drives: over potholes
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Chicago

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by roastbeef View Post
what does the underside of your splitter look like where the oil cooler outlet is? i imagine its pretty hard to make that area a high pressure zone, but without proper ducting, air might be just flowing around it.
the oem undertray on thse cars is decently form fitting with minimal leaks for what it is. i feel like distrupting the packaging is problematic.
I’ve got an mporium under tray on it. It’s got a rubber sealing strip that makes good contact with the bottom of the oil cooler. The lip ends just ahead of that with a 1-2” step up in the floor.
__________________
Current '20 AG X7M50 (daily + track tow), M4 GTS (track), '21 X3 M40i (wife)
Recent Past '11 E90 M3 (track), '21 DG X5MC, '22 BG G82, '12 E92 M3 ZCP, '08 E93 M3, '18 F80 ZCP, '04 E46 M3

Cleaning out my garage -- stuff for sale
Appreciate 2
Lienrocs841.00
roastbeef11864.50
      05-19-2025, 08:10 AM   #46
DRLane
Brigadier General
DRLane's Avatar
United_States
4388
Rep
3,635
Posts

Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Colorado

iTrader: (23)

Quote:
Originally Posted by kolosy View Post
I’ve got an mporium under tray on it. It’s got a rubber sealing strip that makes good contact with the bottom of the oil cooler. The lip ends just ahead of that with a 1-2” step up in the floor.
You’ve built a car that can be pushed harder on track, oil is going to climb s as will water. Expect 280+ sustained oil temps until ecu pulls redline. Cooling these has yet to be solved without one-off fabrication.
__________________
Not a Doctor, those are just my initials.
Appreciate 4
Lienrocs841.00
kolosy3484.50
tdott4545.00
      06-12-2025, 08:00 AM   #47
bigjae1976
Major General
bigjae1976's Avatar
2013
Rep
8,248
Posts

Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW M3  [6.33]
2011 BMW E90 M3  [6.83]
2013 BMW 328i  [6.67]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redd View Post
Since we're on this topic, what's the max SAFE coolant temp to be running at track? Mine hit 112C/234F momentarily after a few laps. I saw the warning on my HUD (no CEL/warning from DME) and immediately took a cool down lap. Both oil and coolant temps dropped quickly once I stopped pushing.
Safe temp is limited to the boiling point of water. 212f plus 3 degress for every PSIA.

Most OE systems run about 17psi? 263f would be the boiling point. You have to factor in once the car shuts down the coolant heats up in the engine and could boil and cause an issue.

Aluminum expansion tanks should have a higher pressure cap which provides a higher boiling point for an extra margin of safety. I think you can get a 29psi cap.
__________________
2018 F30 320iX Melbourne Red
2011 E90 M3 Monte Carlo Blue
2004 E46 M3 Imola Red
2000 E36/7 Z3 Steel Blue
Appreciate 0
      06-12-2025, 08:06 AM   #48
bigjae1976
Major General
bigjae1976's Avatar
2013
Rep
8,248
Posts

Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW M3  [6.33]
2011 BMW E90 M3  [6.83]
2013 BMW 328i  [6.67]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lienrocs View Post
I have no idea. I’ve had the car go into limp mode once before but it was pre can data integration so I don’t have real temp data. I know my F82 M4 sits around 220 in comfort/sport just driving down the freeway. I know it’s a different car/engine but BMW does BMW stuff.
Maybe try replacing the coolant sensors?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kolosy View Post
I’ve got an mporium under tray on it. It’s got a rubber sealing strip that makes good contact with the bottom of the oil cooler. The lip ends just ahead of that with a 1-2” step up in the floor.
Those flat panel under trays will get a lot less extraction from the oil cooler.

The OE part sits closer to the ground which creates a lower pressure zone.

There is also a large gurney on the front edge of the oil cooler exit ducting. I made a carbon undertray where the gurney flap is bonded on. Just street driving there is a 5 degree improvement by adding the gurney flap.
__________________
2018 F30 320iX Melbourne Red
2011 E90 M3 Monte Carlo Blue
2004 E46 M3 Imola Red
2000 E36/7 Z3 Steel Blue
Appreciate 1
Lienrocs841.00
      06-12-2025, 06:38 PM   #49
Redd
Brigadier General
5039
Rep
4,842
Posts

Drives: 2010 BMW E92 M3 Dakar Edition
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Malaysia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjae1976 View Post
There is also a large gurney on the front edge of the oil cooler exit ducting. I made a carbon undertray where the gurney flap is bonded on. Just street driving there is a 5 degree improvement by adding the gurney flap.
Any pics of this gurney flap pls?
Appreciate 0
      06-12-2025, 06:43 PM   #50
bigjae1976
Major General
bigjae1976's Avatar
2013
Rep
8,248
Posts

Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (22)

Garage List
2004 BMW M3  [6.33]
2011 BMW E90 M3  [6.83]
2013 BMW 328i  [6.67]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redd View Post
Any pics of this gurney flap pls?
Hard to see but it looks the same as the OE part which has a gurney integrated.
Attached Images
  
__________________
2018 F30 320iX Melbourne Red
2011 E90 M3 Monte Carlo Blue
2004 E46 M3 Imola Red
2000 E36/7 Z3 Steel Blue
Appreciate 1
e30gentry201.00
      06-12-2025, 06:47 PM   #51
Redd
Brigadier General
5039
Rep
4,842
Posts

Drives: 2010 BMW E92 M3 Dakar Edition
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Malaysia

iTrader: (0)

I see what you mean. I have an Mporium metal undertray. I shall see if I can stick a piece of rubber trim in the front of the opening to create a low pressure zone to evacuate hot air faster out from the oil cooler outlet. Thanks!
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:20 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST