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      07-17-2024, 06:28 PM   #1
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Anyone with a swan neck spoiler / wing?

Looking to find a bad ass , gigantic, 100% functional carbon wing.

Need aero simulation like ecs has here so I know how to dial in downforce.

Like this but swan neck:

https://deal.town/ecs-tuning/new-pro...-kit-P3JC24RN7

I spoke to Misha about their new TÜV approved wings but they’re $7,500 Canadian pesos before shipping, and duties.
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      07-18-2024, 09:46 AM   #2
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Zebulon? For less then that money I'm sure they could make you a swan neck setup with one of their rear wings.
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      07-20-2024, 12:57 PM   #3
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I ended up buying a functional gts lip and bigger gt4 wing from these guys, for about 1/4 the price of Misha’s fancy wing, They’ll give you a discount if you buy both.


https://ridgelinemotorsport.com/?syc...0-f13e4fd87bd3
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      07-21-2024, 04:22 PM   #4
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wow, went from gigantic functional swan neck to baby bolt ons in record time.
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      07-21-2024, 06:07 PM   #5
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[QUOTE=berns;31327301]wow, went from gigantic functional swan neck to baby bolt ons in record time.

lol yeah well it looks functional enough I’ll upgrade later.
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Surprised by those figures from Misha’s company (the aforementioned wing in your original post). Not particularly impressive even at the dual element option which should be massive.

Zebulon msc and Verus eng have demonstrated their knowledge and skills are second to none at both the professional stage and in delivering comparable solutions to grassroots efforts.

Given the options, I struggle with wasting money on all the aero startups…
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      07-22-2024, 01:18 PM   #7
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I ended up buying a functional gts lip and bigger gt4 wing from these guys, for about 1/4 the price of Misha’s fancy wing, They’ll give you a discount if you buy both.
I think that's a solid move. The e92 body shape doesn't make it easy to install a big rear wing or massive balanced downforce without A LOT of effort. I think Zebulon is the best 'high downforce' setup with seemingly proven results. The stock E92 side view has the same shape as the cross-section of an airfoil (wing), so naturally, it wants to FLYYYYY!

The GTS and GT4 setups designed by BMW Motorsport do not add much downforce. However, they ARE good at eliminating lift at higher speeds and providing a little positive downforce. Interestingly, it seems the e92 GTS downforce is only 6 lb front/41 lb rear less than a 997 GT3RS with it's bigger rear wing, both a 0.33 drag coefficient. Curious how the GT4 wing/splitter/canards would compare against the 997 3RS.

https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=402401

https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1725500
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      07-22-2024, 05:21 PM   #8
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I think that's a solid move. The e92 body shape doesn't make it easy to install a big rear wing or massive balanced downforce without A LOT of effort. I think Zebulon is the best 'high downforce' setup with seemingly proven results. The stock E92 side view has the same shape as the cross-section of an airfoil (wing), so naturally, it wants to FLYYYYY!

The GTS and GT4 setups designed by BMW Motorsport do not add much downforce. However, they ARE good at eliminating lift at higher speeds and providing a little positive downforce. Interestingly, it seems the e92 GTS downforce is only 6 lb front/41 lb rear less than a 997 GT3RS with it's bigger rear wing, both a 0.33 drag coefficient. Curious how the GT4 wing/splitter/canards would compare against the 997 3RS.

https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=402401

https://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1725500
The BMW MS GTS/GT4 add-ons don’t eliminate lift, they’re offsetting it with a minimal downforce generating wing and lip combo. To eliminate lift you’d have redesign the car, no?

Effectively those parts yield a more predictable experience at track speeds vs increasing grip.
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Thanks for posting this pics!!! I remembered seeing them and couldn’t find them last time I looked.

The gt4 wing I purchased claims to be larger than normal and modeled after a Belgian racing team design.

I’ll let you guys know!
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      07-30-2024, 11:34 AM   #10
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I ended up buying a functional gts lip and bigger gt4 wing from these guys, for about 1/4 the price of Misha’s fancy wing, They’ll give you a discount if you buy both.


https://ridgelinemotorsport.com/?syc...0-f13e4fd87bd3
My GTS front lip just came in, will be installed later this week. I ordered mine in FRP, as the plastic should be able to take more abuse than the carbon. I'll be ordering a GT4 wing, but I haven't decided if I'm going with Ridgeline for that as well, or if I'll be going with Carbon Production out of Germany since they offer a prepeg variant instead of fiberglass + carbon overlay. TBD
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