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      06-10-2024, 04:29 PM   #133
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Yeah definitely. Our X5 is the N63, I have no concern about it having the power to tow my ~6,000lb setup but the aero of the enclosed trailer is a non starter for me. If I had an open trailer I'd 100% tow with the X5 and would never have bought the F250.
Exactly my thoughts, but substitute Cayenne for X5 and GMC for Ford
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Exactly my thoughts, but substitute Cayenne for X5 and GMC for Ford
Knowing next to nothing about the dynamics of towing, what makes a pickup better able to handle the aero of a trailer? They aren’t materially heavier than an X5 (generally), so is it just wheelbase?
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      06-10-2024, 08:57 PM   #135
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Knowing next to nothing about the dynamics of towing, what makes a pickup better able to handle the aero of a trailer? They aren’t materially heavier than an X5 (generally), so is it just wheelbase?
Weight, wheelbase, brakes, suspension, brake controller (already integrated) transmission, diff, cooling, etc. All specifically set up for towing vs able to tow.

My new truck has some really nice features that make it even less stressful like extra cameras, Blind spot monitoring down the side of the trailer, TPMS in the trailer, load scales built in, trailer specific nav, and on and on. Really makes it a pleasant experience vs a necessary evil.
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Weight, wheelbase, brakes, suspension, brake controller (already integrated) transmission, diff, cooling, etc. All specifically set up for towing vs able to tow.

My new truck has some really nice features that make it even less stressful like extra cameras, Blind spot monitoring down the side of the trailer, TPMS in the trailer, load scales built in, trailer specific nav, and on and on. Really makes it a pleasant experience vs a necessary evil.
Makes sense, thanks. Really reinforces my decision to punt on towing for the foreseeable future (though my main issue is not having space to store a trailer)
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      06-11-2024, 08:39 AM   #137
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Neither X5 nor Cayenne is safe for trailering an enclosed due to wheelbase length regardless of trailer construction (aluminum or steel). That’s why I recently bought a proper tow rig and am selling my Cayenne diesel, which is the best vehicle I’ve ever owned but I just have no longer have a need for it.
I had a cayenne diesel and was phenomenal for a daily. Bummed I let it go.
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      06-11-2024, 10:56 AM   #138
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I second the Touareg/Q7/Cayanne TDI

Amazing daily and tows broken BMWs well.

20-22mpg towing, 25-26mpg combined and 30-31mpg on the highway even without deletes is great.


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Weight, wheelbase, brakes, suspension, brake controller (already integrated) transmission, diff, cooling, etc. All specifically set up for towing vs able to tow.
Also, tire load ratings, higher tongue weight limits and sway control units.
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Yeah I should have picked up an F150 or Silverado lease when they were like $300-$450 here in Detroit

Now you can't touch one with towing package below $700
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