Future BMW models information

ynguldyn · 06-25-2022, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by redlineblog

Interesting. BMW has said 2025 SOP for the first of the Neue Klasse cars at the new Debrecen plant – has this been delayed, or is production at SLP just starting later?

That bit was about the SLP plant specifically. I don't know the official production start dates of those models yet.

ynguldyn · 06-25-2022, 10:43 PM

Added some minor details about the future of G20/G21, confirmed i5 Touring, introduction of L3 driving system in EU G60 and G70 cars.

mbanck · 06-26-2022, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

The primary production plant for Neue Classe cars for the North American market will be SLP. It will start with two models. NA0/NA1 i3 sedan and touring will be successors to G20/G21. NA5 iX3 will be built in parallel with G45 X3 (similar to Mercedes making separate ICE and EV models for the same market segment). All these models will start production in 2027.

So does that mean that there will be no more ICE 3er/4er after the current model, or just that those won't be produced at SLP? Kinda big difference...

ynguldyn · 06-26-2022, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mbanck

So does that mean that there will be no more ICE 3er/4er after the current model, or just that those won't be produced at SLP? Kinda big difference...

The SLP situation tells us how BMW sees the future North American volume sales. Higher end and/or lower volume models -

yousefnjr · 06-27-2022, 02:06 PM

iX7, fucking FINALLY

m981addicts · 06-27-2022, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BMWGirlFL

Also this:

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It ... will launch production purely of electric vehicles in 2025. Debrecen will manufacture the founding member of the Neue Klasse, which will be based on the cluster architecture developed specially for fully electric vehicles.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...nt-in-debrecen

I'll buy my last car, a '29 M2, and use my four ICE-powered BMW's until I'm gone! No electron-powered silent two-ton+ cars for me, ever!

G30M · 06-29-2022, 03:53 PM

When is the hybrid G99 planned to be produced?

While you were sleeping, EU decreed a mandate of 50% emissions reduction in 2030 and 100% emissions reduction in 2035

There is no reason to develop hybrids that they can't sell in the EU.

Unless they quickly plonk the XM drive train into the G99 and sell it tomorrow

razor488 · 06-29-2022, 07:00 PM

Does anyone know if the 3/23 motorway assist feature for the iX will be available as an OTA or will it be hardware limited to models produced after 3/23?

BimmerMat135 · 06-29-2022, 09:52 PM

For the G90/99 what kind of hybrid system can we expect 48V, regular hybrid or phev?

mbanck · 07-01-2022, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

For the G90/99 what kind of hybrid system can we expect 48V, regular hybrid or phev?

(what's the difference between "regular hybrid" and "phev"?)

I guess the answer is: whatever will be on the XM, let's wait till that launches. But I think everybody assumes V8 + PHEV.

BimmerMat135 · 07-01-2022, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mbanck

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

For the G90/99 what kind of hybrid system can we expect 48V, regular hybrid or phev?

(what's the difference between "regular hybrid" and "phev"?)

I guess the answer is: whatever will be on the XM, let's wait till that launches. But I think everybody assumes V8 + PHEV.

Regular hybrid i'm thinking the Toyota type with a battery large enough that the car can drive certain distance in ev mode but that you never have to recharge it.

bayarea328xit · 07-05-2022, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

For the G90/99 what kind of hybrid system can we expect 48V, regular hybrid or phev?

If like the XM, it will be PHEV - see charging port cover/door on side of XM:

3rd picture

ewoody · 07-07-2022, 02:25 AM

What about the new 745e G70?

Any information?

mbanck · 07-13-2022, 09:12 AM

Any comment on BMW Blog's claim that the Z4 M40i might get a 6MT for the LCI (https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/07/11/b...ransmission/)?

BimmerMat135 · 07-14-2022, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkDoronin

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Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

Regular hybrid i'm thinking the Toyota type with a battery large enough that the car can drive certain distance in ev mode but that you never have to recharge it.

how much more will the volume be - two or three times?

This can be done with small battery less than 3kwh. But it seem like we are talking PHEV in the G90 case.

ynguldyn · 07-14-2022, 06:28 PM

Added names and specs for the two additional versions of XM.

ynguldyn · 07-14-2022, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mbanck

Any comment on BMW Blog's claim that the Z4 M40i might get a 6MT for the LCI (https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/07/11/b...ransmission/)?

I have nothing to offer on this subject.

ynguldyn · 07-14-2022, 07:16 PM

Added G60 intro lineup.

ynguldyn · 07-14-2022, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mbanck

Any comment on BMW Blog's claim that the Z4 M40i might get a 6MT for the LCI (https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/07/11/b...ransmission/)?

Funny: I reply you that I don't know about it, and right away get new data confirming the report. Available starting 03/24.

(This bit of news is dedicated to BMWGirlFL)

Tag · 07-15-2022, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Funny: I reply you that I don't know about it, and right away get new data confirming the report. Available starting 03/24.

(This bit of news is dedicated to BMWGirlFL)

Wait, what? A non-M car is getting a MT?

Wow

Slack Beries · 07-15-2022, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tag

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Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Funny: I reply you that I don't know about it, and right away get new data confirming the report. Available starting 03/24.

(This bit of news is dedicated to BMWGirlFL)

Wait, what? A non-M car is getting a MT?

Wow

There goes BMW diluting the M brand. /s

PLF69 · 07-15-2022, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tag

Wait, what? A non-M car is getting a MT?

Wow

They have to do something about the Z4, it could potentially be a sign of the Z4M coming back

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