Tire Talk Megathread

[PrimeBMW]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

My friend and I used to get them for cheap from a Lexus tech when people took them off of their brand new IS350's. Ran square 265's on our manual swapped SC400's. Man those were the days…cheap tires, cheap gas, and cheap cars 😴💭

Gone are those days! I just dropped $8700 on three sets of Pirelli slicks and am ordering more tomorrow 😬

[Kelse92]

Put an order in for a set of RE71rs today. Should have them in hand end of the month or early next month. Thankfully have plenty of tires to get by until then

[1FastSicilian]

Originally Posted by Kelse92

Put an order in for a set of RE71rs today. Should have them in hand end of the month or early next month. Thankfully have plenty of tires to get by until then

curious to see hear your feedback on these.. My ao52 are almost done already, so these might be an alternative for me, I'm just waiting to hear from others experiences first.

[DrFerry]

Originally Posted by 1FastSicilian

curious to see hear your feedback on these.. My ao52 are almost done already, so these might be an alternative for me, I'm just waiting to hear from others experiences first.

Some older candidates sorted for Dry Traction rank order by consumer feedback ratings. Courtesy of The Tire Rack.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...ay.jsp?type=EP
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...y.jsp?type=DRY
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[omgzirra_exe]

Originally Posted by DrFerry

Some older candidates sorted for Dry Traction rank order by consumer feedback ratings. Courtesy of The Tire Rack.
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...ay.jsp?type=EP
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve...y.jsp?type=DRY
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R888R should just be black listed off any ratings thread.

me as i drive around on $200 140TW tires.

[DrFerry]

Originally Posted by omgzirra_exe

R888R should just be black listed off any ratings thread.

me as i drive around on $200 140TW tires.

For tread growl / howl right? Or something else? What is your $200 140 UTQG Treadware fav?

[tsk94]

The only redeeming quality of the R888R's is the variety of sizes they come in. Otherwise, nothing good about them

[rhyary]

Originally Posted by PrimeBMW

Gone are those days! I just dropped $8700 on three sets of Pirelli slicks and am ordering more tomorrow 😬

I just dropped $830 on 3 sets (6) of 140tw front tires.
Should receive by end of the week.

Will I win my HPDE day? Nope!
Will I be one of the fastest in the advance group? Yep!
Will I continue to learn to be better driver? Yep!

Will I be cool driving V720 on the rear and RE050A or RE-71R in the front? Nope!

Will I have a smile on my face all day long? Yep!

:-)

[PrimeBMW]

Originally Posted by rhyary

I just dropped $830 on 3 sets (6) of 140tw front tires.
Should receive by end of the week.

Will I win my HPDE day? Nope!
Will I be one of the fastest in the advance group? Yep!
Will I continue to learn to be better driver? Yep!

Will I be cool driving V720 on the rear and RE050A or RE-71R in the front? Nope!

Will I have a smile on my face all day long? Yep!

:-)

I would rather spend good money on quality tires than a single dollar (and time) on a poor tire. I don't understand your thinking. It's completely illogical. I think you just like being the "crazy" guy at the track/on the forums. Wacky tire guy. 😃🤣. All in good fun 😃

[leftfootbr8king]

Different strokes. If the guy is happy, having fun and being safe at a DE day, that's all that matters. He's not trying to race anyone w2w on mismatched discount bin tires.

[Gossypiboma]

Originally Posted by PrimeBMW

I would rather spend good money on quality tires than a single dollar (and time) on a poor tire. I don't understand your thinking. It's completely illogical. I think you just like being the "crazy" guy at the track/on the forums. Wacky tire guy. 😃🤣. All in good fun 😃

Im with you.

I've spent a while trying to wrap my ahead around this and I'm at a loss. I just can't fathom purposely spending money on junk tires and then mix and match them on my car for a track day. I just don't get it, but to each their own.

[rhyary]

I can assure you that the last thing anyone who knows me think of me as "illogical" or "wacky". If anything, I can be accused of being too logical and too risk averse.

[DrFerry]

What happens to tires and their grip levels when they sit in tire dealer warehouses for years and years and end up 'aging out'? What is the shelf life of a tire (on average)? Why are tires put on sale?

[rhyary]

Originally Posted by Gossypiboma

Im with you.

I've spent a while trying to wrap my ahead around this and I'm at a loss. I just can't fathom purposely spending money on junk tires and then mix and match them on my car for a track day. I just don't get it, but to each their own.

I do not spend money on junk tires.
I did try spending money on good but used tires, but there was no point in doing that once I saw that TR release brand new tires at less than used tires on eBay.

If you want to call new V720 tires on the rear "junk tires" than let's agree that we have different opinion.

If you think that the new hot potato "Force" are better than V720 on the rear, than show me the data.

If you think that 305/30/19 Corsa Async 2 60tw and V720 on the rear is junk, than I can tell you from personal experience that they are not. Regardless of what you mount on the front.

And RE-71R on the front are wonderful. EVEN at $153/tire.

Call me what you like and feel free to disagree,

[rhyary]

Originally Posted by DrFerry

What happens to tires and their grip levels when they sit in tire dealer warehouses for years and years and end up 'aging out'? What is the shelf life of a tire (on average)? Why are tires put on sale?

Not much.
Tire rack has been releasing 2018 tires for discount that so far have been great tires.

They also released 2013 tires but I do not recommend those.

I don't know about all tire dealers, but TR is storing them in climate control warehouses.

Retailers releasing merchandise on sale for many many reasons.

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by rhyary

I do not spend money on junk tires.
I did try spending money on good but used tires, but there was no point in doing that once I saw that TR release brand new tires at less than used tires on eBay.

If you want to call new V720 tires on the rear "junk tires" than let's agree that we have different opinion.

If you think that the new hot potato "Force" are better than V720 on the rear, than show me the data.

If you think that 305/30/19 Corsa Async 2 60tw and V720 on the rear is junk, than I can tell you from personal experience that they are not. Regardless of what you mount on the front.

And RE-71R on the front are wonderful. EVEN at $153/tire.

Call me what you like and feel free to disagree,

Didn’t you just buy re050 for the track?

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by rhyary

I can assure you that the last thing anyone who knows me think of me as "illogical" or "wacky". If anything, I can be accused of being too logical and too risk averse.

Maybe with your non-track related life.

[DrFerry]

Do Tires Age Part 1
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=138
Do Tires Age Part 2
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=183
How To Determine Tire Age
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret....jsp?techid=11
What Do Tire Manufacturers Say About Tire Age
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...jsp?techid=267

Food For Thought:
- How Can The Driver Get Grip To Return (increase) When Driving Front Tires Well Over Their Limits (well past the grip peak)?
- Can Front Axle Tires - Driven Well Beyond The Limit - Be Used As An Effective Rudder?

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https://www.m3post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=103

[rhyary]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

Maybe with your non-track related life.

There is nothing illogical or whacky using 2018 stickers RE-71R or RE-050A tires on the front and V720, Corsa or S007 on the rear. All of which came from TR climate control warehouses. I don't recommend using eBay used tires. That is a bit whacky but has some logic to it.

I may not be as fast as cars on Slicks but I am not far behind, and I am ok with being a tad slower.

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by rhyary

There is nothing illogical or whacky using 2018 RE-71R or RE-050A tires on the front and V720, Corsa or S007 on the rear.

I may not be as fast as cars on Slicks but I am not far behind, and I am ok with being a tad slower.

What does it have to do with slicks, and/or relative time to people at hpde with unknown skill? None of that matters, and isn’t logical to compare to. You’re adjusting so much stuff all of the time that you don’t know what you and/or the car are doing right or wrong.

How many known fast drivers have you let drive your car to benchmark?

[rhyary]

Originally Posted by Bartledoo

What does it have to do with slicks, and/or relative time to people at hpde with unknown skill? None of that matters, and isn't logical to compare to. You're adjusting so much stuff all of the time that you don't know what you and/or the car are doing right or wrong.

How many known fast drivers have you let drive your car to benchmark?

Agreed.
I know nothing.

[Bartledoo]

Originally Posted by rhyary

Agreed.
I know nothing.

What about my question? Have you compared data in the same car with some fast drivers?