Future BMW models information

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Previous spirits project code names:
"Jägermeister" for the E92 M3 GTS (Jägermeister digestif - former sponsor);
"Pyrat" for the E82 1M (Pyrat rum);
"Pyrat2" for the F87 M2.

And, the Drift Machine for the F87 M2CS

[atl_1M]

Will there be 2 rounds of M3 LCI for this generation? I know the 2023 model will get the new ID8, but it doesn't seem like there will be any exterior changes. Should we expect any exterior changes for the G80 generation (e.g., headlights, taillights, etc)?

[swagon]

Originally Posted by atl_1M

Will there be 2 rounds of M3 LCI for this generation? I know the 2023 model will get the new ID8, but it doesn't seem like there will be any exterior changes. Should we expect any exterior changes for the G80 generation (e.g., headlights, taillights, etc)?

G80 has 4 series front end so it the 4 series or the M4 get new headlights, the M3 will do so as well

[ynguldyn]

A few minor updates and one biggie: G2x are going to have an unusually long life, 1-2 years longer than the normal 7 year lifecycle.

[Tag]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

A few minor updates and one biggie: G2x are going to have an unusually long life, 1-2 years longer than the normal 7 year lifecycle.

That's very interesting. I guess it makes some sense since they are the very last ICE versions of those cars.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

A few minor updates and one biggie: G2x are going to have an unusually long life, 1-2 years longer than the normal 7 year lifecycle.

Your last update on the G87 as potentially manual tranmission only for the U.S. Does this mean that any special editions (CS/CSL) will most likely be automatic only if they are global cars?

[50shadesofhockenheim]

I noticed the G80 production got updated from 2025 to 2027 end of production

[xlover]

Originally Posted by Tag

That's very interesting. I guess it makes some sense since they are the very last ICE versions of those cars.

Given what else bmw has said about the ice overall market still existing for a long time despite some select markets working to legislate the transition to electric faster, I wonder if this delay is not to kill an ice offering in this segment but instead to coordinate "new class" as the replacement for the i4/i3 with still offering hybrid variants of 3 series on an update of the existing platform.

-Right now the i4/i3 and the standard car share a platform.
-BMW has said they think the market will be large enough later in the decade to support new class as its own offering in the 3 series segment
-They have not said they will abandon ice in that segment as a result, only that new class will not be planned for hybrid variants
-I doubt they would walk away from ice/hybrid sales in a high volume segment for the brand

[MarkDoronin]

yes, there are a lot of facts and truth in your post, but today, probably few people know how events will develop

[KevinC]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Your last update on the G87 as potentially manual tranmission only for the U.S. Does this mean that any special editions (CS/CSL) will most likely be automatic only if they are global cars?

NFW it shows up here manual only. In fact we'll be lucky to even get one.

[BimmerMat135]

With that long life cycle Bmw NA should have brought the G21 in here that a lot of time to recuperate the certification cost.

[pz619]

Originally Posted by KevinC

NFW it shows up here manual only. In fact we'll be lucky to even get one.

I agree, no chance it’s manual only. However, I’m almost certain we’ll get a manual considering half of US M2 sales was with a manual.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by pz619

I agree, no chance it’s manual only. However, I’m almost certain we’ll get a manual considering half of US M2 sales was with a manual.

I actually think it's not meant as "all US cars will be manual" but rather "ONLY US cars will be manual"

[bp_germany]

I'm curious on which platform/architecture ICE cars will be based on in the end of the decade (2027+). So, G05 X5 successors and more.
BMW can't extend the lifecycle of these cars to an unlimited amount of time...
So, will the usage of CLAR-WE architecture end and an ICE-only platform will come back? Similar to the BEV-only "Neue Klasse" platform?

I think we will get more information in 2023/2024.

[MPSdriver]

Is the LCI M340i rwd (G20) still alive for non-US markets?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by MPSdriver

Is the LCI M340i rwd (G20) still alive for non-US markets?

Doesn't seem to be, actually.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by xlover

Given what else bmw has said about the ice overall market still existing for a long time despite some select markets working to legislate the transition to electric faster, I wonder if this delay is not to kill an ice offering in this segment but instead to coordinate "new class" as the replacement for the i4/i3 with still offering hybrid variants of 3 series on an update of the existing platform.

-Right now the i4/i3 and the standard car share a platform.
-BMW has said they think the market will be large enough later in the decade to support new class as its own offering in the 3 series segment
-They have not said they will abandon ice in that segment as a result, only that new class will not be planned for hybrid variants
-I doubt they would walk away from ice/hybrid sales in a high volume segment for the brand

it depends on what the company sees what the future holds

if Euro bans ICE I don't see them developing ICE, they can still sell them but i don't see a lot of R&D being sunk into it if Euro bans it.

but if they don't yeah why not make hay while the sun shines! them Mericans will buy!

[ynguldyn]

Added power output for i7 M70.

[mbanck]

The "All you need to know" video about the X1 has this at around the 6:30 mark: "And later the X1 20i and the 20d" - I don't think those are mentioned in the top post, but it's a bit less easy to cross-check that these days without the handy SOP table from before.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mbanck

The "All you need to know" video about the X1 has this at around the 6:30 mark: "And later the X1 20i and the 20d" - I don't think those are mentioned in the top post, but it's a bit less easy to cross-check that these days without the handy SOP table from before.

I list all models and their SOPs I know about in the U11 section.

Specifically, I haven't seen any 20d models, only s18d and x23d.

[ynguldyn]

The US iX1 has been canceled, literally days or weeks before the official model intro.

[Game]

When does the X3/X4 get the new iDrive 8 interface?