Track forum general chit chat.

roastbeef · 01-22-2020, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

brake fluid discussion reminded me that i should replace my brake fluid

i have Motul RBF600 fluid in the system after getting ST60 kit in front (stock brake in rear)
any negative impact from using a "racing brake fluid" for daily driving for over a year?

Not really, but it's also super easy to bleed.

bigjae1976 · 01-22-2020, 07:58 PM

Inconsistent evaluation will always happen. I know some instructors immediately shut down anything involving getting the back end sideways. I'll allow a student to get as sideways as they want...so long as they understand their surrounding. Things like walls, ditches and high curbs.

DE Orgs are so desperate for instructors that qualification and continued employment is almost guaranteed. No one is ever fired. Hard to believe that DE Orgs only make good choices in choosing instructors.

The most important thing in the student -instructor relationship is building some level of trust. Some students have flat out sucked at driving. Therefore, they do no have my trust and I won't allow certain things. If a student has my trust, we can push a lot and learn a lot.

It's the instructors job to help build a relationship of trust. But if the driver ain't trying to do that...then you're probably not going to have a great learning experience.

The first thing I test is does a student allow a car to pass when directed? If yes then it builds trust. If not...I assume things and we're gonna stare at flag stations for awhile.

slicer · 01-22-2020, 08:01 PM

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So there seems to be a good amount of us within this sub-forum, is there any interest in choosing an event and everyone trying to make it out to it? Would love to include sir dogbone and slicer as well as the other West Coast guys. I know there are a few of us on the east coast too.

If we plan it from now, seems like it would be easier to make it happen.

That sounds fun - I'm open to that!

b4hand · 01-22-2020, 08:19 PM

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That sounds fun - I'm open to that!

COTA may be the best choice but it will be expensive, and probably with limited space.

dogbone · 01-22-2020, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by b4hand

COTA may be the best choice but it will be expensive, and probably with limited space.

(And it rains a lot.....)

slicer · 01-22-2020, 09:23 PM

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COTA may be the best choice but it will be expensive, and probably with limited space.

(And it rains a lot.....)

Yes, I dealt with rain on my last visit

rhyary · 01-23-2020, 06:12 AM

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COTA may be the best choice but it will be expensive, and probably with limited space.

(And it rains a lot.....)

Yes, I dealt with rain on my last visit

NYST is available for renting.
I am checking the fee for two days mid week late summer to get an idea.

We should rent NYST and spend two days driving E92 M3 in circles

OG Shark · 01-23-2020, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dogbone

(And it rains a lot.....)

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Originally Posted by slicer

Yes, I dealt with rain on my last visit

C'mon now - it doesn't rain that much here. It's just been a weird 2, 3, well maybe 4 years now. I'm sure we will get back to our normal drought conditions soon

ThunderMoose · 01-23-2020, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Shark

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(And it rains a lot.....)

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Yes, I dealt with rain on my last visit

C'mon now - it doesn't rain that much here. It's just been a weird 2, 3, well maybe 4 years now. I'm sure we will get back to our normal drought conditions soon

Should be good this weekend

roastbeef · 01-23-2020, 01:47 PM

Buttonwillow tomorrow! It's been over a year since I've had some seat time so I laid out all my crap so I didn't forget anything.

Richbot · 01-23-2020, 02:09 PM

Bruh there’s no wheels in those slicks bruh

roastbeef · 01-23-2020, 02:27 PM

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Bruh there’s no wheels in those slicks bruh

Tire shop at the track will be open. I'm going to finish off the nittos while I'm knocking the cobwebs off my balls then I'm mounting up the dh's.

rhyary · 01-23-2020, 03:55 PM

If there is an interest I can put together a 2-day event at NYST for $600/car for 30 cars.

http://www.nysafetytrack.com/

normal day runs 7 x 20min session
Three groups of 10

or

2 x group of 15 @ 30min session
If 2 groups then point-by must be done promptly assuming more mixed speeds

So for $600 you get ~ 280 minutes of driving

I can open a group-buy tread and be open first to any M3.

Let me know if this has potential or interest and I can work on it.

We can coach each other, but basically this is a driving solo event.

b4hand · 01-23-2020, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rhyary

If there is an interest I can put together a 2-day event at NYST for $600/car for 30 cars.

http://www.nysafetytrack.com/

normal day runs 7 x 20min session
Three groups of 10

or

2 x group of 15 @ 30min session
If 2 groups then point-by must be done promptly assuming more mixed speeds

So for $600 you get ~ 280 minutes of driving

I can open a group-buy tread and be open first to any M3.

Let me know if this has potential or interest and I can work on it.

We can coach each other, but basically this is a driving solo event.

This is awesome but I feel it is way to far away from our west coast friends

Ximian · 01-23-2020, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by b4hand

This is awesome but I feel it is way to far away from our west coast friends

Midwest as well - 19 hour drive for me. COTA or another track in TX wouldn't be bad.

fsmtnbiker · 01-23-2020, 07:50 PM

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Buttonwillow tomorrow! It's been over a year since I've had some seat time so I laid out all my crap so I didn't forget anything.

Ah man, I’ll be there in 2 weeks with Speed District! Can’t wait to get back to BW.

b4hand · 01-23-2020, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ximian

Midwest as well - 19 hour drive for me. COTA or another track in TX wouldn't be bad.

COTA does have that "wow" factor. And nice garages

ThunderMoose · 01-23-2020, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ximian

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This is awesome but I feel it is way to far away from our west coast friends

Midwest as well - 19 hour drive for me. COTA or another track in TX wouldn't be bad.

Where are you located?

Ximian · 01-23-2020, 08:38 PM

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Where are you located?

Near Minneapolis so the closest major track is Road America. I wouldn't mind a longer drive to big meet up.

roastbeef · 01-23-2020, 08:39 PM

I'm in for COTA, but this needs to be way in advance.

b4hand · 01-23-2020, 09:06 PM

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I'm in for COTA, but this needs to be way in advance.

It would have to be after summer. Edge Addicts is running Oct 10, 11. http://www.edgeaddicts.com/events.html. They are one of the more popular texas only groups though. Last time I was there with OG Shark it was quite full.

Kelse92 · 01-23-2020, 09:39 PM

I would do COTA maybeee late this fall or in 2021... it’s pretty pricey to make a weekend out of it, just track fees alone are usually around $1000 unless you can instruct. Add in hotels, meals out each nightf, track insurance (a must do at COTA imo) and it’s easily a 2k weekend and I’m not very far away.
With some planning though, It’s pretty central and could totally be made to make work. Edge Addicts typically runs similar dates out there every year that are predictable. CHIN puts on a couple of events out there too. And of course PCA/BMW CCA do Schnell Fest usually end of May every year but it can get Hot out there that time of year... fall is usually better

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rhyary Banned 1637 Rep 2,883 Posts Drives: 2013 M3 Join Date: May 2015 Location: Albany, NY iTrader: (0)	If there is an interest I can put together a 2-day event at NYST for $600/car for 30 cars. http://www.nysafetytrack.com/ normal day runs 7 x 20min session Three groups of 10 or 2 x group of 15 @ 30min session If 2 groups then point-by must be done promptly assuming more mixed speeds So for $600 you get ~ 280 minutes of driving I can open a group-buy tread and be open first to any M3. Let me know if this has potential or interest and I can work on it. We can coach each other, but basically this is a driving solo event.
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Kelse92 Major 1139 Rep 1,366 Posts Drives: Former e92 M3 Owner Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0)	I would do COTA maybeee late this fall or in 2021... it’s pretty pricey to make a weekend out of it, just track fees alone are usually around $1000 unless you can instruct. Add in hotels, meals out each nightf, track insurance (a must do at COTA imo) and it’s easily a 2k weekend and I’m not very far away. With some planning though, It’s pretty central and could totally be made to make work. Edge Addicts typically runs similar dates out there every year that are predictable. CHIN puts on a couple of events out there too. And of course PCA/BMW CCA do Schnell Fest usually end of May every year but it can get Hot out there that time of year... fall is usually better __________________ #ladydriven Heavy-spec M3 // KW Clubsports // AA x-pipe // Gintani muffler // Macht-Schnell intake // Gintani tune // OMP Seats // Too Many Apex Wheels // Stoptech ST-60 // Cobalt Friction brake pads
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