VAC oil pan baffle

kyippee · 10-26-2019, 05:35 PM

I'm looking at installing the VAC oil pan baffles on my E92 M3 and already have the parts:
https://store.vacmotorsports.com/vac...s65-p3001.aspx

I heard from a friend that an n54-based car had problems reading engine oil level (electronically) and it made the readings erratic. Seems like an odd issue.

Has anybody installed this part and run into issues? Or installed the part and not had any issues?

Thanks in advance!

b4hand · 01-22-2020, 12:02 AM

Bump. I am also considering this

slicer · 01-22-2020, 12:49 AM

I initially had some oil measurement issues after install but I don't know if it was pan related. Our oil level sensors are finicky. No issues at this point. I have had it installed for 10k+ miles

kyippee · 01-22-2020, 12:51 AM

Update.. we had it welded into a new pan at a good shop but it kept leaking when warm. Shit is tough. Haven't put it in my car yet..

b4hand · 01-22-2020, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

Update.. we had it welded into a new pan at a good shop but it kept leaking when warm. Shit is tough. Haven't put it in my car yet..

Leaking how?

kyippee · 01-22-2020, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by b4hand

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

Update.. we had it welded into a new pan at a good shop but it kept leaking when warm. Shit is tough. Haven't put it in my car yet..

Leaking how?

Leaking oil from the welds when warmed up

b4hand · 01-22-2020, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

Leaking oil from the welds when warmed up

Leaking between the baffles inside the pan? How is that a problem? Won't the oil sort itself back to where it should be?

kyippee · 01-22-2020, 02:14 AM

The oil pan requires cutting the bottom of the stock pan. Aluminium is tricky to weld and is porous. So what I'm experiencing is leaking through the welds.

slicer · 01-22-2020, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

The oil pan requires cutting the bottom of the stock pan. Aluminium is tricky to weld and is porous. So what I'm experiencing is leaking through the welds.

I have not had this issue. I did a core swap with VAC for my pan. Welding was performed by VAC

b4hand · 01-22-2020, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by slicer

I have not had this issue. I did a core swap with VAC for my pan. Welding was performed by VAC

How long did it take them to do it?

slicer · 01-22-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by b4hand

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Originally Posted by slicer

I have not had this issue. I did a core swap with VAC for my pan. Welding was performed by VAC

How long did it take them to do it?

They often have modified pans in stock. I didn't have them modify mine. It was an exchange of a pan they modified for my OE pan. There's a core charge that is refunded once your OE pan is received.

SYT_Shadow · 01-22-2020, 02:09 PM

Why is there a need for this?

The S65 has the highest production lateral G oiling system: 1.4g
Better than the S55 and S58 at 1.3

kyippee · 01-22-2020, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Why is there a need for this?

The S65 has the highest production lateral G oiling system: 1.4g
Better than the S55 and S58 at 1.3

For me, I wanted to do it for risk mitigation. I blew a motor last year and fear oiling problems

roastbeef · 01-22-2020, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

For me, I wanted to do it for risk mitigation. I blew a motor last year and fear oiling problems

did they determine the cause for your motor quitting?

the heavy hitters at autoclub speedway see higher g's than the rest of us and it doesn't appear to be an issue.

kyippee · 01-22-2020, 03:28 PM

We never did a full tear down, so I don't know the exact cause. You're right though - with that said and the high G capability mentioned earlier, it may not be directly related to the issue I had.

Makes me feel better about not having moved further with it

slicer · 01-22-2020, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Why is there a need for this?

The S65 has the highest production lateral G oiling system: 1.4g
Better than the S55 and S58 at 1.3

My thinking is why not? My goal has been to build for durability and safety. Baffled pan, rod bearings upgrade, cooling upgrades, no forced induction.

SAMM3Y · 01-22-2020, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

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Originally Posted by b4hand

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Originally Posted by kpewpew

Update.. we had it welded into a new pan at a good shop but it kept leaking when warm. Shit is tough. Haven't put it in my car yet..

Leaking how?

Leaking oil from the welds when warmed up

They need to tig it not mig it..

maicol76 · 01-24-2020, 10:33 AM

Lower oil pressure (than stock) was recorded at some corners on my aim logger. Now back to the stock pan, the oil pressure before installing VAC baffle is maintained.
I don't know why.

b4hand · 01-24-2020, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by maicol76

Lower oil pressure (than stock) was recorded at some corners on my aim logger. Now back to the stock pan, the oil pressure before installing VAC baffle is maintained.
I don't know why.

So the stock pan maintained better oil pressure during corners?

maicol76 · 01-25-2020, 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by b4hand

So the stock pan maintained better oil pressure during corners?

yes in my case

roastbeef · 01-25-2020, 08:15 AM

I know what the baffle is/does, but is it possible to install it backwards? If it's just a little baffle with a trap door, it could be reversible if it's the right shape.

b4hand · 01-25-2020, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by roastbeef

I know what the baffle is/does, but is it possible to install it backwards? If it's just a little baffle with a trap door, it could be reversible if it's the right shape.

This one doesn't look backwards install-able. Its an entire piece that fits one way into the pan.

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