Try out the new beta site for M3Post. You can read more about what's happening here
BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts

Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Engine, Transmission, Exhaust, Drivetrain, ECU Software Modifications
 
Mporium BMW
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools
      12-15-2017, 04:55 PM   #1
MiamiE93Vert
Lieutenant
109
Rep
465
Posts

Drives: E93 M3 Convertible
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Miami, FL

iTrader: (0)

Daily driving with a supercharger

I am considering an AA supercharger for my E93 and have concerns about installing one for daily driving. I am not worried about performance or the supercharger itself, just how it will sound during regular boring traffic, like when crawling to work in my commute or 2,000 rpm driving at partial throttle.

I know the sound will change and there will be a noise difference and a hiss or whine but how much? Louder than the radio at a reasonable level or a telephone conversation through the car speaker? Louder than the sound of the differential under regular driving? As long as the sound is not louder or on even volume with these activities for regular driving I am ok. When accelerating or spirited driving I don't care, all bets are off at that point.

Any input you can share, especially for AA supercharger owners or from E93 drivers with the top down for comparison to the top up and windows closed, will be appreciated. Sound clips from in the cabin may be helpful but I don't think a sound clip will answer my questions since it would be hard to accurately record the difference.

Thank you!
__________________


AA Pulley, Air Filter and Tune - Full Evolve Valvetronic Exhaust - 380/355 Stoptech BBK, BBS FI's and other fun stuff.
Appreciate 0
      12-15-2017, 06:23 PM   #2
W Cole
Major
165
Rep
1,129
Posts

Drives: 2009 M3
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Newport Coast, CA

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiE93Vert View Post
I am considering an AA supercharger for my E93 and have concerns about installing one for daily driving. I am not worried about performance or the supercharger itself, just how it will sound during regular boring traffic, like when crawling to work in my commute or 2,000 rpm driving at partial throttle.

I know the sound will change and there will be a noise difference and a hiss or whine but how much? Louder than the radio at a reasonable level or a telephone conversation through the car speaker? Louder than the sound of the differential under regular driving? As long as the sound is not louder or on even volume with these activities for regular driving I am ok. When accelerating or spirited driving I don't care, all bets are off at that point.

Any input you can share, especially for AA supercharger owners or from E93 drivers with the top down for comparison to the top up and windows closed, will be appreciated. Sound clips from in the cabin may be helpful but I don't think a sound clip will answer my questions since it would be hard to accurately record the difference.

Thank you!
I have a coupe but with the windows down I can't tell any noise difference.
Appreciate 0
      12-16-2017, 09:35 PM   #3
BombaE90
Private
BombaE90's Avatar
9
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2011 E90 M3
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Miami, Fl

iTrader: (1)

I have an AA stage 2 and daily drive the car, also in Miami. Car is great, and the supercharger whine is not noticeable inside the car. Outside you can hear it a bit, which is cool.

I'm literally on the phone for work for almost every minute I'm in the car on week days. The only comments I get when on the phone is from the exhaust because I've got the cat delete as well.
Appreciate 0
      12-16-2017, 11:30 PM   #4
JsL
Major
United_States
459
Rep
1,266
Posts

Drives: 2011 AW M3 ZCP
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: SF Bay Area

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by BombaE90 View Post
I have an AA stage 2 and daily drive the car, also in Miami. Car is great, and the supercharger whine is not noticeable inside the car. Outside you can hear it a bit, which is cool.

I'm literally on the phone for work for almost every minute I'm in the car on week days. The only comments I get when on the phone is from the exhaust because I've got the cat delete as well.
Do you have a constant whistle from the BoV? I would think the AA kit is the loudest (whistle) at partial throttle. It has the BOV that vents to atmosphere instead of recirculating into the intake, so you will hear a constant whistle.
Appreciate 0
      12-17-2017, 11:10 AM   #5
FMLYSDN
Major
FMLYSDN's Avatar
Canada
1254
Rep
1,485
Posts

Drives: 2011 Frozen Grey E90 M3
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Edmonton

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by JsL View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by BombaE90 View Post
I have an AA stage 2 and daily drive the car, also in Miami. Car is great, and the supercharger whine is not noticeable inside the car. Outside you can hear it a bit, which is cool.

I'm literally on the phone for work for almost every minute I'm in the car on week days. The only comments I get when on the phone is from the exhaust because I've got the cat delete as well.
Do you have a constant whistle from the BoV? I would think the AA kit is the loudest (whistle) at partial throttle. It has the BOV that vents to atmosphere instead of recirculating into the intake, so you will hear a constant whistle.
I will chime in here....

I originally had a AA SC installed on my daily driver. Personally, it got old quickly. The system has three BOV's and the constant hiss was too much for me. There are many who find it appealing and like that aspect, but it comes down to personal choice. Partial throttle, full throttle....it was always there. I simply couldn't handle it. I sold the setup and moved to ESS and couldn't have been happier. Many have spoken about the ESS system and how it feels like a stock setup and I would personally support that claim from my own experience. In addition to the noise, there were other factors that had me favour the ESS over the AA, but we will leave those items out as you wanted feedback on the BOV.

Best of luck with your decision.
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2017, 07:40 AM   #6
thetastelingers
Master Baiter
thetastelingers's Avatar
4160
Rep
628
Posts

Drives: 09 Z06
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Soddy Daisy

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2018 BMW M3 SOLD  [10.00]
2018 BMW M2  [9.75]
I've got AA on my car and while I like a lot about this setup, I don't care much for the meth injection.
If I had a daily, I wouldn't run a setup with meth. The whole filling it up all the time would get old.
My old car had a VF setup on it. I had no complaints.
__________________

FYI, if you get an infraction in the off-topic section, you can never visit that section again.
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2017, 01:13 PM   #7
Patrón
PAZUZU
Patrón's Avatar
United_States
560
Rep
2,058
Posts

Drives: '15 M4
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: San Antonio, TX

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [0.00]
2009 BMW M3  [10.00]
partial throttle, normal driving will not make any odd noises compared to a stock car. the aa kits have blow off valves but they are not that loud under normal driving. at least what iv'e heard in person.
just want to add that i've daily driven my car for two years and it's been absoutely perfect (other than replacing two O2s.)
__________________

2009 M3 DCT ESS625+ SOLD
2015 M4 BSM/Silverstone F4LCON
@texasMclub IG @jagemoets

Last edited by Patrón; 03-28-2018 at 03:20 PM..
Appreciate 0
      12-18-2017, 01:16 PM   #8
Mvy
Captain
United_States
572
Rep
982
Posts

Drives: 2008 E93 M3
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: GA Peach

iTrader: (0)

You are going to notice it more in a vert top down than others who have coupes or saloons. But holy crap its fun to daily a SC car in my opinion. I dont mind the sounds.
__________________

Harrop Supercharger, BPM Tune, K/W Coil over kit, Stoptek BBK, Magnaflow exhaust, ear to ear grin everytime I drive...
Appreciate 1
      12-18-2017, 11:03 PM   #9
BombaE90
Private
BombaE90's Avatar
9
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2011 E90 M3
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Miami, Fl

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JsL View Post
Do you have a constant whistle from the BoV? I would think the AA kit is the loudest (whistle) at partial throttle. It has the BOV that vents to atmosphere instead of recirculating into the intake, so you will hear a constant whistle.
I've never noticed the whistle, but I like the BOV sound at WOT. I love this kit.
Appreciate 2
      12-20-2017, 12:24 AM   #10
azndrunk74
Major
634
Rep
1,324
Posts

Drives: Frozen Black F10 M5
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FMLYSDN View Post
I will chime in here....

I originally had a AA SC installed on my daily driver. Personally, it got old quickly. The system has three BOV's and the constant hiss was too much for me. There are many who find it appealing and like that aspect, but it comes down to personal choice. Partial throttle, full throttle....it was always there. I simply couldn't handle it. I sold the setup and moved to ESS and couldn't have been happier. Many have spoken about the ESS system and how it feels like a stock setup and I would personally support that claim from my own experience. In addition to the noise, there were other factors that had me favour the ESS over the AA, but we will leave those items out as you wanted feedback on the BOV.

Best of luck with your decision.
Curious, do you have MT or DCT?
Appreciate 0
      12-20-2017, 07:19 AM   #11
FMLYSDN
Major
FMLYSDN's Avatar
Canada
1254
Rep
1,485
Posts

Drives: 2011 Frozen Grey E90 M3
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Edmonton

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by azndrunk74 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by FMLYSDN View Post
I will chime in here....

I originally had a AA SC installed on my daily driver. Personally, it got old quickly. The system has three BOV's and the constant hiss was too much for me. There are many who find it appealing and like that aspect, but it comes down to personal choice. Partial throttle, full throttle....it was always there. I simply couldn't handle it. I sold the setup and moved to ESS and couldn't have been happier. Many have spoken about the ESS system and how it feels like a stock setup and I would personally support that claim from my own experience. In addition to the noise, there were other factors that had me favour the ESS over the AA, but we will leave those items out as you wanted feedback on the BOV.

Best of luck with your decision.
Curious, do you have MT or DCT?
This was on a previous car which was a manual.
Appreciate 0
      12-20-2017, 10:42 AM   #12
azndrunk74
Major
634
Rep
1,324
Posts

Drives: Frozen Black F10 M5
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Bay Area, CA

iTrader: (13)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FMLYSDN View Post
This was on a previous car which was a manual.
gotcha. was always curious if the constant hiss was a DCT only thing. i do get it as well with my BOV, but only off throttle and it is manageable.
__________________
2014 Frozen Black F10 M5 | Agency Power HFC Downpipes | Custom Open Flash Stage 2 Tune | KW HAS kit | 3D Design Lip | 3D Design Skirts | 3D Design Spoiler | IND Front & Rear Reflectors | IND M5 Badge | M Performance Steering Wheel | M Performance CF Shift Knob | Pedal Haus Pedals & Paddles | Turner Exhaust |
Appreciate 0
      12-21-2017, 07:54 PM   #13
schnell1982
Captain
350
Rep
965
Posts

Drives: FAST
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Southern California

iTrader: (0)

I love the sound !
To me it is not overbearing at all.
The ESS kit I do not like the sound of the blower they use. The bearing sound it makes bothers me. Even tho it is normal for that style
I prefer the AA kit
But, I have not heard a Harrop kit yet in person
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      12-26-2017, 12:20 AM   #14
becausephilchow
Lieutenant
187
Rep
513
Posts

Drives: 08 E90 M3
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Hong Kong

iTrader: (2)

I've got a Harrop, and I DD the car.

Whine is loud, but I don't mind it. Windows up with the music on, can't hear it too much inside the cabin anyways. It's quite loud on the outside though, but, I don't mind, haha.
Appreciate 0
      12-26-2017, 08:20 PM   #15
Solo_M_Tech
Brigadier General
Solo_M_Tech's Avatar
United_States
1725
Rep
3,149
Posts

Drives: 2014 M5 6MT
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Massachusetts

iTrader: (7)

Garage List
2014 BMW M5  [0.00]
Buy an ESS 625 kit and don't look back. No weird BOV noises to sound like a boy racer and super reliable. Easier to install, service etc. You'll love the extra torque the SC gives during your daily commutes.
__________________
2014 M5 6MT
Appreciate 2
Lanbow24.50
FMLYSDN1254.00
      12-29-2017, 08:12 PM   #16
TTony
Lieutenant
United_States
275
Rep
553
Posts

Drives: E92 M3, Macan Turbo, IS350
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Jose

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ham_sammich View Post
Buy an ESS 625 kit and don't look back. No weird BOV noises to sound like a boy racer and super reliable. Easier to install, service etc. You'll love the extra torque the SC gives during your daily commutes.
This. I have the ESS 625 as well and recommend. Even pulling up to a car meet people could not hear it had a supercharger over the Akra exhaust at all. I cannot hear it from inside either. My personal preference is no whining at all and I'm happy with the sounds on the ESS 625.
Appreciate 0
      12-30-2017, 03:20 AM   #17
JsL
Major
United_States
459
Rep
1,266
Posts

Drives: 2011 AW M3 ZCP
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: SF Bay Area

iTrader: (2)

Here's a video I came across that shows how the AA kit sounds like driving around town.

[u2b]https://youtu.be/VfY009ejpdA[/u2b]
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:08 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST