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I'm still going to flash my non-ZCP EDC to ZCP lol[/QUOTE]
So Derbo, what is the total cost of the conversion. This is key for buyers like OP. Typically we are talking about a $3,000 to $10,000 premium more or less for ZCP cars. Plus you are limited to what is available. Now that the world is available... Plus we can factor in selling off the 220 wheels for a decent price (can still keep them for a set of snow tires). The OEM suspension pieces probably are not worth much as I have seen others giving them away. And this would be wheels, suspension pieces and possible coding only. What is the total cost to convert to ZCP? Then taking into account if OP and others find 2008 and 2009 cars with the old Idrive and tail lights. That could be a separate total to factor. My last question is on the cars that do not have the M button. If you are retrofitting the the Idrive then would one program one of the buttons on the wheel to act like the M button? |
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Second - addressing your last para: I can guarantee that after receiving such splendid education on the various useful points, I will never sell my car to EAG. (That is assuming I find one!) My 2 cents: As seen in the wide price divergence, there seems to be a perception - whether fair or unfair - that cars with the original comp pkg are worth more. I think this is more a fad and prices will come down eventually. |
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There is more of a premium for the ZCP in the E90 because of the one year only rarity, there were quite a few more ZCP E92's made then non ZCP's....IMO most try to get the same money for a std. coupe as they do for a ZCP. If the buyer knows the difference it would probably be a good negotiating point to get a non ZCP coupe cheaper. I only watch 2013's, but don't see a noticable premium for ZCP E92's over the std. E92.
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Thats a good question. If a buyer is adamant of getting it EXACTLY what the factory ZCP package offers, I would assume this list:
So I guess the OP would be looking at ~$4k to "convert" it. Is it worth it? For me, absolutely not. In my own personal situation, I'm just more intrigued how ZCP EDC settings will affect the non-ZCP EDC dampeners. From what I read, it stiffens up the suspension and would be an improvement of the factory sport mode. For that reason, I plan to coding it even without the ZCP Dampeners. I aim to replace my springs at a minimal, so this will beneficial until I figure out if I want to remove EDC and go with a true coilover or get a EDC compatible coilover like B16 Damptronic. |
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I-Drive. I would say we have a winner Rajan. At least you are on track to buy one for mid to high 30's rather than pay the extortion prices EAG is charging for around $46,000. |
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2009 sedans get the updated taillights and CIC navigation. 2010 gets revised climate control with heated seats in the center of the controls. 2011.5 (9/2010 build date) includes the combox for Bluetooth streaming music capabilities. |
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The reason there are so few 2010s is the economy was, erm, not so good around 2009-10. You see the same thing with 2009-11 911s/Boxster/Caymans, which sucks because those were really good years... |
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All I really did was dig around for my own benefit when hunting the perfect sedan. I'm glad I can share what I discover with others. M registry FAQ shows the differences throughout production. http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=50 Quote:
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Back in early 2012 a good friend was selling his 2011 E92 ZCP, and he had it on various spots asking a very reasonable (at the time) price of $52k, then started lowering over the next few months. The car was immaculate and low mileage, etc. After fooling with potential buyers flaking, lowballing, not serious, etc, he contacted EAG and they paid $47k with immediate wire xfer. Car was picked up 3-4 days later. It was on their website asking $57k, and it sold almost immediately. They had to do *nothing* to the car, physically, and it was still under BMW's factory warranty including maintenance anyway. So it's weird stuff like that which makes you wonder where that buyer was for the prior 3-4 months when the car could have been purchased for $7-8000 cheaper from the owner...
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Anyone looking for a ZCP just has to figure out if the 3 items are worth hunting for. The rarity like the others here has mentioned shows about 1200 or so ZCP optioned sedans. I would imagine less than 50% of those are 6MT. If you finite the other packages you want, it will further reduce the cars that match. Now how many of those that match are for sale.. Quote:
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1. can a car not have comp pkg (S7MAA) and yet have only EDC (S223A). 2. Derek - what is the source for that that blurb (What is the Comp Pkgs...) in the bottom of your post? I ask because it does not mention the software adjustment. Think you and others mentioned that in the earlier posts. Thanks! Last edited by BimmerRules!; 10-05-2017 at 09:10 AM.. |
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Given all the tweaks/adjustments that the car companies usually make, especially BMW with LMIs, I automatically went to the last year when that model was produced (which is 2011 for the sedans). |
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2. http://www.bmwmregistry.com/model_faq.php?id=50 If you also want some brochures, I found good quality ones from here. 2011_V1 includes the sedan, where the 2011_v2 removes the sedan from the brochure. http://www.auto-brochures.com/bmw.html |
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