Another Twin Turbo Kit in the works?

[Lucrecio84]

Originally Posted by kwike92Msport

Calling BS. There is barely any room to fit a single turbo, much less the setup and plumbing for 2. Also, there is no turbo spool in any part of that video.

Lets say you figure out some way to fit it all, there is no benefit to turbocharging the vehicle when the engine can really only handle 8-10PSI of boost at max. Even running conservative amounts of boost (12-16psi) would destroy an S65. You would have to lower the compression ratio so low to compensate for the added boost at higher RPMs, that im not sure the engine would idle, much less build enough power to get the turbos to spool.

Also, part of me wants to be wrong so bad. Always wanted to see a 1000whp M3 to shut GTR owners up.

I fit twin gt30r turbo's in my e92 m3. Motor is almost done being built so you will be seeing a 1000whp m3 very soon

[TrAcK TRaP]

Originally Posted by Lucrecio84

I fit twin gt30r turbo's in my e92 m3. Motor is almost done being built so you will be seeing a 1000whp m3 very soon

maybe its possible but it won't last long. Remember torque brings the HP and these cars can't take over 600 wtq. I am coming from N54 335i with 658 whp 496wtq with full of problems I am happy with trade if I wanted fast straight line car I would've keep my N54. E9x M3's are not fast on straight line..

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by TrAcK TRaP

maybe its possible but it won't last long. Remember torque brings the HP and these cars can't take over 600 wtq. I am coming from N54 335i with 658 whp 496wtq with full of problems I am happy with trade if I wanted fast straight line car I would've keep my N54. E9x M3's are not fast on straight line..

So a 0-62 in 4.6 sec. is not fast ?

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

So a 0-62 in 4.6 sec. is not fast ?

Not really

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by Lucrecio84

I fit twin gt30r turbo's in my e92 m3. Motor is almost done being built so you will be seeing a 1000whp m3 very soon

Are you using gtx3076r's?

[Lucrecio84]

Originally Posted by TrAcK TRaP

maybe its possible but it won't last long. Remember torque brings the HP and these cars can't take over 600 wtq. I am coming from N54 335i with 658 whp 496wtq with full of problems I am happy with trade if I wanted fast straight line car I would've keep my N54. E9x M3's are not fast on straight line..

I know I bent a rod when it was stock. Hence the reason for completely building the motor and changing all internals and dropping compression.

[Lucrecio84]

Originally Posted by OM VT3

Are you using gtx3076r's?

I was using them but switching to 35r's now with built motor and dropped compression. Shooting for 1000 wheel on e85

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by Lucrecio84

I was using them but switching to 35r's now with built motor and dropped compression. Shooting for 1000 wheel on e85

You can easily make 1000whp on twin 3076r's you're cars gonna be laggy

[Shredicus]

E85 does help with lag a bit due to 30% additional exhaust mass

[Lucrecio84]

Originally Posted by OM VT3

You can easily make 1000whp on twin 3076r's you're cars gonna be laggy

yea trying to stay away from too much torque down low but well see

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by Shredicus

E85 does help with lag a bit due to 30% additional exhaust mass

Still going to be laggy with only 2l feeding the turbos

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by Lucrecio84

yea trying to stay away from too much torque down low but well see

That's easy with a syvecs that's all on tuning. You can do boost by gear boost by speed also have tq management I would have gone with gtx3076r's and pulled out the TQ down low with the syvecs but still will be a nice build

[Jpfabrications]

Originally Posted by OM VT3

Still going to be laggy with only 2l feeding the turbos

Shouldn't be that laggy with these twin setups you want to stay away from all that TQ at the low end this is what will kill the motor. We are running 2 precision 6266's on our car with full boost at 3500rpms.

[AWTT335i]

Wow, steer clear of this company. Scammed many people in the 335 community. Buyer beware...

[BusaR8]

I wouldn't say scammed, lots of n54 guys with there kits including me now long waits bad customer service yes. But if there doing in house installs of the kit then its a pretty good deal.

[Mit_Boost]

Originally Posted by OM VT3

Still going to be laggy with only 2l feeding the turbos

Are you kidding? The AMS Alpha 10 packages for the Porsche 997.1 (3.6L) runs Tial Alpha 3076s makes over 500 WTQ by 4k RPMs, with a 7k redline. The M3 has more displacement and a higher redline, so lag should be nearly nonexistent if you're keeping it in the boost curve.

Twin turbo charging a S65 is like turboing a GT3. The engine has so much volumetric efficiency that as long as you're bolting on reasonably sized turbos, it'll move enough air that you won't even have a chance to look at your watch and check how long it takes for boost to build. Another example would be a stock motor TT-Gallardo. Twin 6266s and it hits peak TQ at 5k RPMs, carries the power out all the way to 8k.

[BusaR8]

Originally Posted by Mit_Boost

Are you kidding? The AMS Alpha 10 packages for the Porsche 997.1 (3.6L) runs Tial Alpha 3076s makes over 500 WTQ by 4k RPMs, with a 7k redline. The M3 has more displacement and a higher redline, so lag should be nearly nonexistent if you're keeping it in the boost curve.

Twin turbo charging a S65 is like turboing a GT3. The engine has so much volumetric efficiency that as long as you're bolting on reasonably sized turbos, it'll move enough air that you won't even have a chance to look at your watch and check how long it takes for boost to build. Another example would be a stock motor TT-Gallardo. Twin 6266s and it hits peak TQ at 5k RPMs, carries the power out all the way to 8k.

This ^

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by Mit_Boost

Are you kidding? The AMS Alpha 10 packages for the Porsche 997.1 (3.6L) runs Tial Alpha 3076s makes over 500 WTQ by 4k RPMs, with a 7k redline. The M3 has more displacement and a higher redline, so lag should be nearly nonexistent if you're keeping it in the boost curve.

Twin turbo charging a S65 is like turboing a GT3. The engine has so much volumetric efficiency that as long as you're bolting on reasonably sized turbos, it'll move enough air that you won't even have a chance to look at your watch and check how long it takes for boost to build. Another example would be a stock motor TT-Gallardo. Twin 6266s and it hits peak TQ at 5k RPMs, carries the power out all the way to 8k.

I've driven a built SR20 that was a 2.2l with a gtx3076r felt laggy and it reved to 8 or 9k and an Australian ford that come out with a inline 6 that is 4l that had a 1 gtx3582 still felt laggy maybe I'm wrong but a s65 with twin gtx3582's is going to be far from responsive

Not sure why you would be using an 850hp turbo anyway a 3076r would be the best and you can still make big power

[BusaR8]

Originally Posted by OM VT3

I've driven a built SR20 that was a 2.2l with a gtx3076r felt laggy and it reved to 8 or 9k and an Australian ford that come out with a inline 6 that is 4l that had a 1 gtx3582 still felt laggy maybe I'm wrong but a s65 with twin gtx3582's is going to be far from responsive

Not sure why you would be using an 850hp turbo anyway a 3076r would be the best and you can still make big power

Dude a gtx 3582 turbo does not flow 850hp lol
700hp 750 maybe

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by BusaR8

Dude a gtx 3582 turbo does not flow 850hp lol
700hp 750 maybe

I know a car with 2 speed power glide and big converter making just under 700whp on e85 here

[Mit_Boost]

Originally Posted by OM VT3

I've driven a built SR20 that was a 2.2l with a gtx3076r felt laggy and it reved to 8 or 9k and an Australian ford that come out with a inline 6 that is 4l that had a 1 gtx3582 still felt laggy maybe I'm wrong but a s65 with twin gtx3582's is going to be far from responsive

Not sure why you would be using an 850hp turbo anyway a 3076r would be the best and you can still make big power

Once again, the S65 has a very high volumetric efficiency. It's the same reason why we can bolt-on a supercharger with single-digit boost and add 200 HP+. Another example? The Shelby GT350 has cracked over 1,000 WHP with both a supercharger and twin-turbo stock motor bolt-on kit. Why? The Voodoo engine has very high volumetric efficiency.

And the 3076R could do 1,000 WHP, but the turbo probably won't last very long at that boost level. You'd be much better off using a bigger turbo, like that the GT35R, and keeping it right in it's efficiency range, especially if you'd like to run different boost settings (i.e., low-boost for pump gas and high-boost for race gas/ethanol). Add in a well designed, twin-scroll manifold and you probably won't have much "lag" after 4k RPMs.

Originally Posted by OM VT3

I know a car with 2 speed power glide and big converter making just under 700whp on e85 here

2-speed power glide and E85 sounds like it's a purpose built, high compression ratio engine that never is run on pump gas. That's not exactly a fair representation of that turbo's performance.

[OM VT3]

Originally Posted by Mit_Boost

Once again, the S65 has a very high volumetric efficiency. It's the same reason why we can bolt-on a supercharger with single-digit boost and add 200 HP+. Another example? The Shelby GT350 has cracked over 1,000 WHP with both a supercharger and twin-turbo stock motor bolt-on kit. Why? The Voodoo engine has very high volumetric efficiency.

And the 3076R could do 1,000 WHP, but the turbo probably won't last very long at that boost level. You'd be much better off using a bigger turbo, like that the GT35R, and keeping it right in it's efficiency range, especially if you'd like to run different boost settings (i.e., low-boost for pump gas and high-boost for race gas/ethanol). Add in a well designed, twin-scroll manifold and you probably won't have much "lag" after 4k RPMs.



2-speed power glide and E85 sounds like it's a purpose built, high compression ratio engine that never is run on pump gas. That's not exactly a fair representation of that turbo's performance.

Lol that is all not true I will post videos tonight they are all stock motor cars some with just a zf that people here drive as there daily