Track forum general chit chat.

[Mantii]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

anyone have any secret spots for getting brake pads on the cheap? i miss the bite of the DSUNO's.
tried the DS1.11's and they are good, but i like that sharpness of the UNO's.

Hey Roast

Get in touch with Clark at Apex Performance. He can usually get you a pretty nice discount on pads, including the Ferodo lineup

[roastbeef]

Originally Posted by Mantii

Hey Roast

Get in touch with Clark at Apex Performance. He can usually get you a pretty nice discount on pads, including the Ferodo lineup

thank you Sir, and everyone else with the leads!

[redpriest]

Really liking Hankook RS4s so far. Seem to have pretty good wear characteristics considering I just put 7 sessions on them and they seem to barely be worn. Grip is pretty good, probably not RE-71R class, but good enough.

Will continue to play with these. Still pretty competitive with my M4 + these tires vs my modded out E92 on RE-71R.

[roastbeef]

Originally Posted by redpriest

Really liking Hankook RS4s so far. Seem to have pretty good wear characteristics considering I just put 7 sessions on them and they seem to barely be worn. Grip is pretty good, probably not RE-71R class, but good enough.

Will continue to play with these. Still pretty competitive with my M4 + these tires vs my modded out E92 on RE-71R.

how was it today?

speed district at laguna is like a dream come true... i'd just have a mini endurance race and only come in for gas.

[redpriest]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

how was it today?

speed district at laguna is like a dream come true... i'd just have a mini endurance race and only come in for gas.

I seem to be cursed at Laguna.

First, had nasty fuel cut coming into turn 5 - basically ran out of gas. Got drivetrain malfunction warnings etc., limped back to gas pump to refuel. Needle was literally on E. Lost track of how much fuel I had because I was putting down a really good lap time, haha. Target fixation.

Then I cooked my brakes. I'm using the Endless ME20 pad with SRF on stock M4 iron disc calipers. They were brand new for ACS at Bimmerfest, so they had 8 sessions on them. Was able to get 5 Laguna sessions before I started to get some pretty severe fade. Came into hot pits/paddock immediately and pedal went to the floor. Had to drive around in the paddock for a while because they were on fire. Lol.

Swapped pads for OEM pads, which were essentially brand new. Cooked through those in 2 25 min sessions - so I need to order two new sets of pads.

Laguna is brutal for brakes. Got 7 sessions total today. Would have gotten more if I didn't have to swap pads. Sucks. Tires look practically new despite having 45+ laps on them.

[roastbeef]

damn dude! do you run the race gas in the m4? i don't think it would make a big difference in the m3, but maybe in the m4 with the turbos...
one of my small fears of refueling on a track day is some janky pump nozzle spilling out gas and it dripping down the fender, hitting the wheel, dripping onto the rotor and igniting. probably an irrational fear, but i'm always extra careful.
i have about 1/2 of my DSUNO's left, and two days on my 1.11's. i'll be bringing my ds2500's as well for the ride home.

most importantly, how were the lap times lookin?

[NoCarrier]

Speed District at Laguna Seca was definitely a dream come true. 34 cars total, I believe. Two run groups. I put in almost 90 laps over the course of the day. Best time was a 1:47.89. I suppose that's decent, given that my car is basically stock, but it felt slow since the track was filled with GT3RS's, a couple R8s, a McLaren 570S and a P1.

Faded my PFC-08s in the first session, so I was concerned that brakes were going to be an issue all day, but it never happened again. Phew!

[NoCarrier]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

anyone have any secret spots for getting brake pads on the cheap? i miss the bite of the DSUNO's.
tried the DS1.11's and they are good, but i like that sharpness of the UNO's.

I've found the lowest prices at bestbrakes.com on occasion.

[redpriest]

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

Speed District at Laguna Seca was definitely a dream come true. 34 cars total, I believe. Two run groups. I put in almost 90 laps over the course of the day. Best time was a 1:47.89. I suppose that's decent, given that my car is basically stock, but it felt slow since the track was filled with GT3RS's, a couple R8s, a McLaren 570S and a P1.

Faded my PFC-08s in the first session, so I was concerned that brakes were going to be an issue all day, but it never happened again. Phew!

90 laps! I think I did 46 or so. Missed a lot of time because of pads. Should have had a fresh set

[redpriest]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

damn dude! do you run the race gas in the m4? i don't think it would make a big difference in the m3, but maybe in the m4 with the turbos...
one of my small fears of refueling on a track day is some janky pump nozzle spilling out gas and it dripping down the fender, hitting the wheel, dripping onto the rotor and igniting. probably an irrational fear, but i'm always extra careful.
i have about 1/2 of my DSUNO's left, and two days on my 1.11's. i'll be bringing my ds2500's as well for the ride home.

most importantly, how were the lap times lookin?

Was running 91 all day. I did put some 100 in to try, didn't seem to make a difference. Funny thing happened to me, the 100 nozzle did exactly as you described where it spurted out before I even got it to the container. Spilled right down the fender - sucked because I had just come off the track so my rear wheels were still really hot...

Best I did all day was 1:42.3. Best rolling lap was 1:41.5, and could have done 1:38 with my splits. Good first time with 1) New tires, 2) New car, 3) MT at Laguna.

Spent a lot of time experimenting with different gears, trying to figure out if doing turn 11 in 3rd was a good idea or not - upshifting to 4th before turn 6, or downshifting to 3rd while braking for turn 6.... will have to go through the data to see if it was worthwhile or not.

[hayes180]

Originally Posted by redpriest

Was running 91 all day. I did put some 100 in to try, didn't seem to make a difference. Funny thing happened to me, the 100 nozzle did exactly as you described where it spurted out before I even got it to the container. Spilled right down the fender - sucked because I had just come off the track so my rear wheels were still really hot...

Best I did all day was 1:42.3. Best rolling lap was 1:41.5, and could have done 1:38 with my splits. Good first time with 1) New tires, 2) New car, 3) MT at Laguna.

Spent a lot of time experimenting with different gears, trying to figure out if doing turn 11 in 3rd was a good idea or not - upshifting to 4th before turn 6, or downshifting to 3rd while braking for turn 6.... will have to go through the data to see if it was worthwhile or not.

damn. you should try it again as described and try to break 140. You can probably do it with NT01's...

[Mvez]

Originally Posted by roastbeef

anyone have any secret spots for getting brake pads on the cheap? i miss the bite of the DSUNO's.
tried the DS1.11's and they are good, but i like that sharpness of the UNO's.

Funny, I think the DS1.11's on my M3 are ON/OFF bite compared to the PFC08's on my Cayman. I wish PFC made them for the AP calipers so I could use them.

I guess I prefer the 08's modulation, which is amazing. They just require ample cooling to work optimally.

I second Clarke at Apex Performance. I've bought pads, rotors, and safety equipment from him for years. Talk to him directly and you'll almost always get a discount.

[beats]

Originally Posted by Mvez

Funny, I think the DS1.11's on my M3 are ON/OFF bite compared to the PFC08's on my Cayman. I wish PFC made them for the AP calipers so I could use them.

I guess I prefer the 08's modulation, which is amazing. They just require ample cooling to work optimally.

I second Clarke at Apex Performance. I've bought pads, rotors, and safety equipment from him for years. Talk to him directly and you'll almost always get a discount.

I bought a set of PFC08's from Apex, and even their posted price was great. I guess next time I will call!

[M3 Number 86]

Originally Posted by redpriest

Was running 91 all day. I did put some 100 in to try, didn't seem to make a difference. Funny thing happened to me, the 100 nozzle did exactly as you described where it spurted out before I even got it to the container. Spilled right down the fender - sucked because I had just come off the track so my rear wheels were still really hot...

Best I did all day was 1:42.3. Best rolling lap was 1:41.5, and could have done 1:38 with my splits. Good first time with 1) New tires, 2) New car, 3) MT at Laguna.

Spent a lot of time experimenting with different gears, trying to figure out if doing turn 11 in 3rd was a good idea or not - upshifting to 4th before turn 6, or downshifting to 3rd while braking for turn 6.... will have to go through the data to see if it was worthwhile or not.

Sounds like a bunch of excuses to me

#cyberbully

[admranger]

Originally Posted by M3MPH1S

Does anybody have any sage advice for road Atlanta in the rain (or in general)? Going there for my first time this Friday, and the forecast is showing lots of rain. Obviously the big one is not to lift on turn 12, and from a few videos I've seen it looks like a river crosses the entry to the esses and is causing some wrecks.

While not specific to that track, rain driving requires you to keep the weighted tires (outside) off the paint, drive one gear higher than normal, and drive on the rough looking pavement, not the shiny stuff. Smoothness of all inputs is key.

[Richbot]

Driving one gear higher than normal in the rain is a great way to go really slow in the rain. It's called part-throttle, it comes standard with every car, there's a secret unlock code hidden between the top of the travel and the floor and once you unlock it, you can use it whenever you want, like magic up up down down left right left right a b select start

Agree on stay off the paint, and the shiny stuff, and STAY OFF THE GRASS

Also, at Road Atlanta, if somebody drags clay on the track in the rain, you might as well park the car through that portion and the next corner while your tires clean themselves

[MSteve5036]

headed back to the track for the first time in a while on Tuesday. I am very excited. I am just doing the TNiA as a way of checking out a new circuit and to get my cousin involved for the first time.

[chamba002]

Originally Posted by NoCarrier

Speed District at Laguna Seca was definitely a dream come true. 34 cars total, I believe. Two run groups. I put in almost 90 laps over the course of the day. Best time was a 1:47.89. I suppose that's decent, given that my car is basically stock, but it felt slow since the track was filled with GT3RS's, a couple R8s, a McLaren 570S and a P1.

Faded my PFC-08s in the first session, so I was concerned that brakes were going to be an issue all day, but it never happened again. Phew!

I feel that way at COTA lol. All the baller cars come out there.

[scotty_miller]

Have any of the east coats guys in here ran with the group called "track daze"? Registered for summit point first weekend in July and was just curious for some feedback on them

[evilspiritM3]

Originally Posted by scotty_miller

Have any of the east coats guys in here ran with the group called "track daze"? Registered for summit point first weekend in July and was just curious for some feedback on them

They are pretty good. I have run with them several times. Not too much vetting of run groups so you will see some clowns in the higher groups.

[scotty_miller]

Originally Posted by evilspiritM3

They are pretty good. I have run with them several times. Not too much vetting of run groups so you will see some clowns in the higher groups.

Clowns as in bad drivers or just like show off and not give point by? :

[evilspiritM3]

Originally Posted by scotty_miller

Clowns as in bad drivers or just like show off and not give point by? :

A little of both. Intermediate or less drivers in higher run groups and the expected consequences that go along with that. If they slapped a transponder on everyone and moved them up or down after the first session or two the problem would mostly be solved.