Blown motors, Rod Bearing failure S65 Registry.

[Castel]

I'm about to purchase a 2013 E92 M3 in a couple of days, 36k miles. This thread has me a little scared, indy shop check came out ok (mechanic knew about bearings issue but said this one was fine) and the car is still under factory warranty until June 2017 (not CPO). I'm thinking maybe use it until next year then drop the 2.5k to do the bearing update once I'm out of warranty? really don't know. I currently have an 07 335i e92, car has been great.

[williemandowa]

Mine blew at 101,000 miles just got a motor put in last week

[shimmy23]

Originally Posted by williemandowa

Mine blew at 101,000 miles just got a motor put in last week

more info please. maintenace history? cause of failure?

[williemandowa]

Oil changed with Castrol 10w60 every 4000 miles never let it run low happened at commerce quarter mile in the second run heard a ticking after and that was all she wrote

[houston]

Confirmed engine seized
2011.75 sedan DCT
Mileage 17,003
Previous oil change BMW MPower 10w-60 at 13,200
Was at the dealership in July for EDC failure.
Bought from original owner with ~12000 miles on it
Original posting for car here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1086301

Does anyone have thoughts on BMW providing good faith replacement? 2nd owner, 13 months out of warranty, but rediculous low miles.

[aus]

Originally Posted by houston

Confirmed engine seized
2011.75 sedan DCT
Mileage 17,003
Previous oil change BMW MPower 10w-60 at 13,200
Was at the dealership in July for EDC failure.
Bought from original owner with ~12000 miles on it
Original posting for car here: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1086301

Does anyone have thoughts on BMW providing good faith replacement? 2nd owner, 13 months out of warranty, but rediculous low miles.

Sorry to hear that. Check out the OP here. There's a lawyer who helped out a member here in Cali. You'll need to contact BMWNA and may want to point to this thread.
Good Luck!
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[4corners]

Originally Posted by Castel

I'm about to purchase a 2013 E92 M3 in a couple of days, 36k miles. This thread has me a little scared, indy shop check came out ok (mechanic knew about bearings issue but said this one was fine) and the car is still under factory warranty until June 2017 (not CPO). I'm thinking maybe use it until next year then drop the 2.5k to do the bearing update once I'm out of warranty? really don't know. I currently have an 07 335i e92, car has been great.

Don't be afraid to buy. The bearings aren't all that much to fix. Have you priced an exhaust system or Brembo brakes? Ridiculously expensive. Drive the shit out of fit. If it has a problem you have a warranty. When the warranty is up, do the bearings and you'll feel a lot better about it.

It doesn't compare to your 335i.....

[Castel]

Sweet man, I appreciate your input. Should have it in a week!

[shakywarrior]

So engines with aftermarket bearings have failed along with stock ones. At this point I guess just don't worry about it and yolo.

[JRV]

Originally Posted by shakywarrior

So engines with aftermarket bearings have failed along with stock ones. At this point I guess just don't worry about it and yolo.

Wait, who's aftermarket RB's failed? I didn't see that.

[pbonsalb]

jcolley reported that a couple of S85 with wpc treated stock bearings had issues. There may be another report or two of issues with treated or aftermarket bearings on S65, but as I recall the results were either inconclusive or there was a misdiagnosis.

In my view, replacing the bearings is the smart thing to do if you do not have a warranty. I would not want to spend $10k changing a motor and that is with me doing all the work and buying a used motor.

But if you are a gambler, it is undeniable that most E9xM3 are driving around just fine on their original rod bearings. The odds are with you.

[Doc Oc]

The only failure I've seen here of aftermarket bearings came with wpc bearings on a supercharged car. At one point I thought my VAC's had given up but upon pulling them they turned out perfect.

[shakywarrior]

Originally Posted by JRV

Wait, who's aftermarket RB's failed? I didn't see that.

That was just my conclusion from reading about 5 pages back, sorry. But mine is at 84k now with no abnormal ticking, 10w60 every 5k. My e46 m3 had 182k miles when I sold it and I rev'd that to redline more than twice a day everyday. I wasn't as involved or aware of the rod bearing issue back then so had no idea anything could go wrong. I think I'll just continue driving and hope nothing happens. I think these cars are built well and just that small percentage had an issue. I'll just go by the numbers & pray.

[4corners]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

jcolley reported that a couple of S85 with wpc treated stock bearings had issues. There may be another report or two of issues with treated or aftermarket bearings on S65, but as I recall the results were either inconclusive or there was a misdiagnosis.

In my view, replacing the bearings is the smart thing to do if you do not have a warranty. I would not want to spend $10k changing a motor and that is with me doing all the work and buying a used motor.

But if you are a gambler, it is undeniable that most E9xM3 are driving around just fine on their original rod bearings. The odds are with you.

How do you know if they are "just fine"? Mine looked like this at 147800 miles and my oil reports and engine noises were "just fine"

[SDPLV]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

In my view, replacing the bearings is the smart thing to do if you do not have a warranty. I would not want to spend $10k changing a motor and that is with me doing all the work and buying a used motor.

But if you are a gambler, it is undeniable that most E9xM3 are driving around just fine on their original rod bearings. The odds are with you.

Funny, being out here in Vegas, you'd think I'd be a gambler but I also value my car (and wallet) enough to take the safe out. So, I'm doing the swap.

Just ordered the BE bearings for my 2008 M3 w/ 80k and no current issues. It's my DD now, I will turn it into a weekend ride/track car in the future and want it to last a while.

Spoke to a local Euro tuning shop - I'll be taking the parts myself ~ $700 and the labor for swap + oil change/filter/pan (need one during swap) will be $1000 total + 2 days in the shop.

[JRV]

Originally Posted by shakywarrior

That was just my conclusion from reading about 5 pages back, sorry. But mine is at 84k now with no abnormal ticking, 10w60 every 5k. My e46 m3 had 182k miles when I sold it and I rev'd that to redline more than twice a day everyday. I wasn't as involved or aware of the rod bearing issue back then so had no idea anything could go wrong. I think I'll just continue driving and hope nothing happens. I think these cars are built well and just that small percentage had an issue. I'll just go by the numbers & pray.

Ok yea not sure but i think someone i insinuated it but it wasn't true. Yea man it's one of those things where you gamble or you don't. Most people will not have failure and that's the truth. I just didn't feel like gambling.

[admranger]

Originally Posted by SDPLV

Funny, being out here in Vegas, you'd think I'd be a gambler but I also value my car (and wallet) enough to take the safe out. So, I'm doing the swap.

Just ordered the BE bearings for my 2008 M3 w/ 80k and no current issues. It's my DD now, I will turn it into a weekend ride/track car in the future and want it to last a while.

Spoke to a local Euro tuning shop - I'll be taking the parts myself ~ $800 and the labor for swap + oil change (needed one) will be $1000 total + 2 days in the shop.

OEM bolts appear to be backordered (would prefer those over ARP bolts), need to find some soon.

Curious which Vegas shop you're taking it to.

[JFWM3]

Well, add me to the list. What a downer. I drove the car to Kentucky/Tennessee from Toronto, and lost the engine last night. Just totally blew up, sent holes through the block. And before I left, I was thinking, maybe I should get the bearings done. Dealer says a complete new short block is required. $33k.

The car is modified with an ESS S/C, but the car has been babied and never tracked. 65,000kms. Pretty lousy day.

Any advice?

[Mvy]

Originally Posted by JFWM3

Well, add me to the list. What a downer. I drove the car to Kentucky/Tennessee from Toronto, and lost the engine last night. Just totally blew up, sent holes through the block. And before I left, I was thinking, maybe I should get the bearings done. Dealer says a complete new short block is required. $33k.

The car is modified with an ESS S/C, but the car has been babied and never tracked. 65,000kms. Pretty lousy day.

Any advice?

Really sorry for your loss. Out of curiosity, what year is your car?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Mvy

Really sorry for your loss. Out of curiosity, what year is your car?

Looks like his was an 08

[GMWNashville]

Originally Posted by JFWM3

Well, add me to the list. What a downer. I drove the car to Kentucky/Tennessee from Toronto, and lost the engine last night. Just totally blew up, sent holes through the block. And before I left, I was thinking, maybe I should get the bearings done. Dealer says a complete new short block is required. $33k.

The car is modified with an ESS S/C, but the car has been babied and never tracked. 65,000kms. Pretty lousy day.

Any advice?

PM sent

[Doc Oc]

Originally Posted by JFWM3

Well, add me to the list. What a downer. I drove the car to Kentucky/Tennessee from Toronto, and lost the engine last night. Just totally blew up, sent holes through the block. And before I left, I was thinking, maybe I should get the bearings done. Dealer says a complete new short block is required. $33k.

The car is modified with an ESS S/C, but the car has been babied and never tracked. 65,000kms. Pretty lousy day.

Any advice?

Man that sucks to hear. Used engines are available in the $8k range. Check ebay. Any indicators before it popped?