E9x M3 LAP TIMES (Road Course)

[swftiii]

Originally Posted by Datka

Performance Friction 2-piece Floating Front Rotors for OE Calipers
Calipers are stock. PFC-08 pads with SRF fluid.
No brake fade or performance degradation on a very fast track like WGI
After 11 20-25min. sessions i had more than 50% of front pads and more than 70% rear pads. Started with new pads.
I am trying to brake less now, after all they only slow you down
Again, i am not saying its as good as BBK, but i would save that money for other upgrades

Thanks Datka...makes me feel much better about hitting the track. What about the rears? Does PFC make a rear rotor?

Skip

[SYT_Shadow]

PFC does not build a rear rotor for the E92. You could use 'racing brake' or just oem. The fronts take almost all the punishment

[Datka]

Originally Posted by swftiii

Thanks Datka...makes me feel much better about hitting the track. What about the rears? Does PFC make a rear rotor?

Skip

Make sure you bed-in pfc-08 pads before you hit the track. If done properly, stopping power is eye popping

[SYT_Shadow]

Pfc pad bedding = warm up lap

[swftiii]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Pfc pad bedding = warm up lap

Planning on PFC with the BMW. I've used Pagid for years on the Porsche, but the bed in is a pain and if you don't get it right the whole weekend sucks.

Thanks guys,
-Skip

[ThunderMoose]

Originally Posted by swftiii

Planning on PFC with the BMW. I've used Pagid for years on the Porsche, but the bed in is a pain and if you don't get it right the whole weekend sucks.

Thanks guys,
-Skip

Were you switching back and forth between street and track (pagids) pads?

I only used pagids on my track car and there was no bed in required. Just swap and go.

[swftiii]

Yes, swapping back and forth, but even when I did new rotors and new Pagid, they are finicky. Loved the feel and bite of the Yellow 28s, but will see what the PFC 08s are like. Lots of people love them, so I am hopeful.

Skip

[joe@trinityautosport]

'08 E92 M3 6 spd
Track/Course: 13CW Buttonwillow
Best Lap Time: 1:53.xx (Session 2 and it was HOT!)
Brakes: Stoptech Trophy St60/St40 (ST45 front pads & Stoptech Street rear pads)
Tires (Size & Model): 275/35/18 Square BFG R1S
Suspension: JRZ Motorsport Double Adjustable with SWIFT
Other Mods: Macht Schnell Stage 2 intake, Custom 2 into 1 Exhaust, Macht Schnell Solid Subframe/Diff Bushings, Fall Line Carbon Driveshaft, Custom Splitter, Brook Motorsports Wing, Full Roll Cage, AJ Harman Canards, RDSport Pulley, CF Trunk, Fiber Glass Doors

[joe@trinityautosport]

'08 E92 M3 6 spd
Track/Course: CCW1 Buttonwillow
Best Lap Time: 1:59.926 First time running that config (19th heat cycle on r1s)
Brakes: Stoptech Trophy St60/St40 (ST45 front pads & Stoptech Street rear pads)
Tires (Size & Model): 275/35/18 Square BFG R1S
Suspension: JRZ Motorsport Double Adjustable with SWIFT
Other Mods: Macht Schnell Stage 2 intake, Custom 2 into 1 Exhaust, Macht Schnell Solid Subframe/Diff Bushings, Fall Line Carbon Driveshaft, Custom Splitter, Brook Motorsports Wing, Full Roll Cage, AJ Harman Canards, RDSport Pulley, CF Trunk, Fiber Glass Doors

[TheKosherStogie]

Not much in the M2 forum and used to post in e92m3 forum so...

M2 DCT - 100% stock including fluids, alignment and all.
Buttonwillow C13 - 2:00:4
Stock Michelin Super Sports

[joe@trinityautosport]

'08 E92 M3 6 spd
Track/Course: 13CW Buttonwillow
Best Lap Time: 1:48.4 (Driver: Brett Smrz)
Brakes: Stoptech Trophy St60/St40 (ST45 front pads & Stoptech Street rear pads)
Tires (Size & Model): 275/35/18 Square BFG R1S (16th Heat Cycle)
Suspension: JRZ Motorsport Double Adjustable with SWIFT
Other Mods: Macht Schnell Stage 2 intake, Custom 2 into 1 Exhaust, Macht Schnell Solid Subframe/Diff Bushings, Fall Line Carbon Driveshaft, Custom Splitter, Brook Motorsports Wing, Full Roll Cage, AJ Harman Canards, RDSport Pulley, CF Trunk, Fiber Glass Doors

'08 E92 M3 6 spd
Track/Course: 13CW Buttonwillow
Best Lap Time: 1:51.5 (Driver: ME)
Brakes: Stoptech Trophy St60/St40 (ST45 front pads & Stoptech Street rear pads)
Tires (Size & Model): 275/35/18 Square Hankook Z214 Medium Compound
Suspension: JRZ Motorsport Double Adjustable with SWIFT
Other Mods: Macht Schnell Stage 2 intake, Custom 2 into 1 Exhaust, Macht Schnell Solid Subframe/Diff Bushings, Fall Line Carbon Driveshaft, Custom Splitter, Brook Motorsports Wing, Full Roll Cage, AJ Harman Canards, RDSport Pulley, CF Trunk, Fiber Glass Doors

[jakob66]

Track: Watkins Glen
Laptime: 2:01.68 (current track record from 2014 was 2:03.44)
Event: NASA Eastern States Championship in TT3
Laptimer: Harry's and NASA transponder
No gadges as OBD ports were sealed by NASA officials.
It was my 1st time at Watkins Glen. Great track.
Made 2nd place in TT3 (0.7 secs behind Greg Smith. (Next time Greg! ). 1.7sec faster than current TT3 track record. Made big mistake in bus stop and turn 8, that could have been a 2:00.80 lap (virtual was 2:00.10).
It was a great event and lots of fun and cool cars!!
Enjoy!
.

[okusa]

Originally Posted by jakob66

Track: Watkins Glen

Fully gutted with only a bolt in cage?

[jakob66]

Originally Posted by okusa

Fully gutted with only a bolt in cage?

yes. full cage maybe over winter...

[ThunderMoose]

Originally Posted by jakob66

Track: Watkins Glen
Laptime: 2:01.68 (current track record from 2014 was 2:03.44)
Event: NASA Eastern States Championship in TT3
Laptimer: Harry's and NASA transponder
No gadges as OBD ports were sealed by NASA officials.
It was my 1st time at Watkins Glen. Great track.
Made 2nd place in TT3 (0.7 secs behind Greg Smith. (Next time Greg! ). 1.7sec faster than current TT3 track record. Made big mistake in bus stop and turn 8, that could have been a 2:00.80 lap (virtual was 2:00.10).
It was a great event and lots of fun and cool cars!!
Enjoy!
.

Great job!

[Datka]

Originally Posted by jakob66

Track: Watkins Glen
Laptime: 2:01.68 (current track record from 2014 was 2:03.44)
Event: NASA Eastern States Championship in TT3
Laptimer: Harry's and NASA transponder
No gadges as OBD ports were sealed by NASA officials.
It was my 1st time at Watkins Glen. Great track.
Made 2nd place in TT3 (0.7 secs behind Greg Smith. (Next time Greg! ). 1.7sec faster than current TT3 track record. Made big mistake in bus stop and turn 8, that could have been a 2:00.80 lap (virtual was 2:00.10).
It was a great event and lots of fun and cool cars!!
Enjoy!
.

That is flying my friend. Your speed at the apex of T10 was 98mph?
Amazing car and driving.
A few questions if you don't mind.
What tires, spring rate F/R and the weight of your car without you?

[jakob66]

Originally Posted by Datka

That is flying my friend. Your speed at the apex of T10 was 98mph?
Amazing car and driving.
A few questions if you don't mind.
What tires, spring rate F/R and the weight of your car without you?

Hoosier A7 295/30 front and 315/30 rear
Rear: 190N/mm 170 mm length rear ((with spacer) .
Front: 160Nmm/140mm.
Front with no helpers (see my strap solution in another thread, works great). Rear with helper, all springs 7 spacers from KW!!
weight w/o me and 1/4 gas is 3305. I'm 205lbs though...

[SYT_Shadow]

My goodness that is an incredible lap time at the Glen!! Congratulations!

I may have asked already, but what are your wheel widths to fit that much tire?

[jakob66]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

My goodness that is an incredible lap time at the Glen!! Congratulations!

I may have asked already, but what are your wheel widths to fit that much tire?

front 10.5", rear 11". Unless I cut metal there's no more space. That is as wide as it will go.
Thanks

[DB]

Originally Posted by jakob66

Track: Watkins Glen
Laptime: 2:01.68 (current track record from 2014 was 2:03.44)
Event: NASA Eastern States Championship in TT3
Laptimer: Harry's and NASA transponder
No gadges as OBD ports were sealed by NASA officials.
It was my 1st time at Watkins Glen. Great track.
Made 2nd place in TT3 (0.7 secs behind Greg Smith. (Next time Greg! ). 1.7sec faster than current TT3 track record. Made big mistake in bus stop and turn 8, that could have been a 2:00.80 lap (virtual was 2:00.10).
It was a great event and lots of fun and cool cars!!
Enjoy!
.

Another crazy fast time for the rest of us to try to emulate. I'm at 2:08 at the Glen (which felt competent until a few minutes ago ), but I have been there far more than 1 time. Thanks as always for sharing!

[Datka]

Originally Posted by DB

Another crazy fast time for the rest of us to try to emulate. I'm at 2:08 at the Glen (which felt competent until a few minutes ago ), but I have been there far more than 1 time. Thanks as always for sharing!

To emulate this crazy fast time we have to do some crazy things to our cars.
His car has all the go fast mods including some significant weight reduction,
1100F/1300R spring rate combined with huge super sticky tires and crazy aero.
Something I am not ready to do to my car yet. Still prefer to drive to the track.

[DB]

Originally Posted by Datka

To emulate this crazy fast time we have to do some crazy things to our cars.
His car has all the go fast mods including some significant weight reduction,
1100F/1300R spring rate combined with huge super sticky tires and crazy aero.
Something I am not ready to do to my car yet. Still prefer to drive to the track.

Car is definitely well set up, but still...6-7 seconds is a huge gulf between his time and mine. So, great driving going on too. Seemed like lots of good driving last weekend (mixed with some sketchy stuff...anyone else see them start a race with a disabled car parked sideways on the front stretch? wtf?!?)...I saw a bunch of fast results.


Again, congrats!